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The 20-year anniversary celebration of SHOWTIME CHAMPIONSHIP BOXING continues in spectacular fashion on Saturday, Sept. 2, when James “Lights Out” Toney faces Samuel “The Nigerian Nightmare’’ Peter in a 12-round WBC heavyweight elimination bout on SHOWTIME (10 p.m. ET/PT, delayed on the west coast) at STAPLES Center in Los Angeles. In the co-feature, Eric “Mighty Mouse” Aiken defends his IBF featherweight title against Robert “The Ghost’’ Guerrero.
I am feeling great. I want to thank everybody. First and foremost, I want to thank my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, for giving me the opportunity. I also want to thank Eric Aiken for giving me the opportunity. I just want to thank everybody.
Begin Press Questions.
Eric, a couple of fights ago, you were just another guy. Then you beat Tim Austin and then got a shot on short notice and won the IBF title. What has that done for your career and confidence?
That boosted my confidence level 100 percent, but I cannot take all the credit for it. My Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, put everything in perspective for me. And since I’ve rededicated my life to Him, everything has been working out for me. So I give him all the praise and credit. I just get in there and do what I have to do by fighting, but none of that would have been set up without him. So he gets the glory.
Do you have to pinch yourself so that you can realize that you are a champion now?
Absolutely. It has been a long time coming, but sometimes I still just feel like a regular human being, which I am. You know, I am still humble, but I realize that every now and then, I am champion of the world and it is surreal sometimes.
Robert, what do you know about Aiken?
I have seen a lot of stuff. Eric Aiken is a strong fighter. He comes to fight. But, as he said, he has the Lord behind him. When you have the Lord behind you, most of the time you are unstoppable. When you have another guy that is backed by the Lord too, it is just the two of you in there fighting. It is going to be a great fight. I am excited. I cannot wait.
I have been working for this since I was nine years old. On Sept. 2, we are going to get it on.
Eric, this is your first defense. Can you talk about that and also about “The Ghost Guerrero.”
Do you know him? What has your training been like so far?
I do not personally know “The Ghost.” Like I said before, we have a spiritual bond. We are both born again Christians. I can tell that. I do not really know too much about him. I have seen him fight a few times, and it is going to be a great fight. We are going to put on a show for SHOWTIME and all of our fans – his as well as mine. I am extremely excited about having my first defense, especially in a venue like STAPLES and on SHOWTIME. So that excites me. I have just been working hard and I am ready to get it on.
Eric, you are going to be fighting in hostile territory. Do you take that into consideration in your training? Are you mentally prepared for that?
I am absolutely mentally prepared for that because I have been the underdog in all of my fights. When I knocked out Tim Austin, I was the underdog. So I like hostile environments in that situation. It makes me strive harder, and work harder, and fight better. So it is not a shock to me. I do not mind.
How good are you against southpaws?
Ask Tim Austin. I knocked him out. Ask Darby Smart. I beat him for the NABA title. I knocked him out. He is left-handed. Ask Agnaldo Nunes. He was left-handed and I knocked him out. So I am pretty good with them.
Do you want to have a prediction for your first defense?
I am going to leave that to the fans and the critics.
Robert, what is your prediction?
(in ring announcer’s voice) And new …. IBF Featherweight Champion of the World.
Eric, why do you consider yourself an underdog all the time?
Because this is the first time I have had eight to nine weeks to train to get ready for a fight, and my record does not indicate how skilled I am. That is why I am the underdog. Just like I said in the press conference against Valdemir Pereira, I am going to show that records do not mean anything. A lot of their (opponents’) W’s are against taxicab and bus drivers. So that does not mean anything to me because they are not going to fight me like they fight anybody. They have not been hit as hard as I am going to hit anyone that I fight. I do not mind being the underdog. It makes for better betting odds.
Eric, of your four losses, how many would you say are legitimate losses?
One, when I lost against Al Seeger because I did not fight. That is the only regret I have pretty much in my life. I did not fight because I killed myself to make the weight (122 pounds). I cannot fight at 122 anymore. It was a short notice fight as well, and the first punch I threw knocked him down and I just had a mental lapse. I finished the fight on my feet, never was knocked down, never was hurt. I just did not give it my all. I was not mentally there.
Eric, do you feel you fight to the level of your competition?
Absolutely. I get up for big fights. (For some fights), I have not trained as hard as I have been training right now. For my past victories, I have not trained. When I am fighting guys that were like 5-0 and 8-1, I did not really get up for those fights, which was a mental lapse. I just thought I was going to go in there and knock them out. Unfortunately, for the people to beat me, it is like their championship. So they give it their all, and I did not realize that until it was too late. But all that has changed now. I give training 100 percent.
For both of you – what has your training situation and the people you are working with meant to you?
My trainers have been excellent. I have been with Adrian Davis for a couple of years. I also have Jerry Page in my corner as well, an ’84 Olympic gold medalist. So they just critique my skills for what I already have and give me other things that they feel I lack. So it has been excellent for me.
I have had John Bray for going on two years now. He is great. Every time I am in camp with him, I am learning more and more. As you guys have seen in the fights, I just keep improving and improving. So John has been awesome and helps me take care of business. He is doing a fantastic job.
Robert, do you feel that maybe this title shot is overdue, or is this now your time?
I have been paying my dues and the title shot is overdue. I have been ready for quite awhile. I am excited that I am getting the shot and I just cannot wait.
“Ghost,” talk about two things. First, the venue, fighting at the Staples Center, and then also what you know about Eric.
STAPLES Center is one of the greatest venues around right now. I am excited I will be fighting there. I have been to a few fights there. The crowd is awesome. I cannot wait. But there is a lot of stuff that caught my eye with Aiken and you guys are going to find out Sept. 2. He is a tough fighter. He comes to fight. He does pop with both hands. Like he just said, he has never trained this hard ever for fights and he gets up for the fight.
Do you feel the same about yourself, as far as getting up for the bigger fights?
Oh yes. When it is time to step up to the plate, I step up to the plate and I get the job done.
Robert, can you talk about the respect that you have for Eric?
I have respect for every fighter — from the eight year old amateur to the heavyweight champ of the world. What it takes to get in the ring and what you have to do to prepare to get in the ring, I have respect for everybody. I have a lot of respect for Eric. He is a world champ. He has paid his dues and he has fought the fights. On Sept. 2, we are going to do it.
Eric, do you in any way feel a little bit underestimated going into this one?
I do feel underrated. You will see on Sept. 2. But I guess that does not bother me. I know what strengths I have, what weaknesses I have, and what my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, has in store for me. So all that underrating will be out the window come Sept. 2.
Does that motivate you any more?
Absolutely.
Robert, regarding the Diaz fight, you lost a controversial decision to him and then in your last fight, you avenged that loss by knockout. What kind of confidence does that bring for you for this fight coming up?
The confidence really never left. I just had a bad night. Diaz is a tough fighter. He comes to fight all the time. You get in with Diaz, he is going to make you look bad or not. If you have a bad night, he is going to beat you. But I proved to everybody around that I did have a bad night. Came and knocked him out in six rounds and he did not get back up.
Heavyweights join the call. Opening comments begin.
We are here. I am ready to go on Sept. 2. I am telling everybody inside the media. We are ready to do what it takes to win.
I will not be shy. I am looking forward to Sept. 2. It is going to be a good fight. I hope Sam Peter keeps his promise because I have got something for him. Nobody is going to put my [expletive] down. It is not going to happen. He isn’t going to do it because he is in the amateurs. I am ready to fight. It is time to end all this talking. Let us get it on. Everybody talking, his promoters are talking. I am not anybody to play with. I will take Peter’s [expletive] out.
Sam, what is your reaction to this kind of talk and how is it going to affect the fight?
That is him doing all the talking. I do not talk. I talk with my hands. I only retaliate (to) what they say to me.
You cannot fight if you do not know how to talk or to speak.
Samuel, is any of this trash talk getting into your head?
No, it is not getting into my head because I am good and I am going to be good on Sept. 2. I have got to do what I have got to do because I am the next heavyweight champion of the world. I do not care what Toney says. Nothing he does is going to get into my head because I fight through a lot of things. Nothing goes through my head. I do what I and I do what I have got to do.
Samuel, what do you have to work on for this fight?
Well, I know Toney has been there for a long time, being a (former) world champion. But it is definitely time for him to quit. What I am going to do you will see on Sept. 2.
James, what do you feel you have to do in this fight other than just knock him out to get a decisive victory? Is there anything you feel you need to work on at this point?
What happened with Rahman was a one-time thing. That is done. As far as the trash talk goes, I did not start it. It is his promoter and his manager who started it. So each time they start it, you know, it is what it is. Come Sept. 2, I am going to beat his [expletive].
James, what was your reaction to Rahman getting knocked out by Oleg Maskaev?
The guy quit. He could have gone to 12 rounds, but you know what happened. Rahman was not all that strong. I shook him like a salt shaker when I hit him. So Maskaev got the world championship. It will not last long though.
Sam, what do you feel are your skills and qualities that will allow you to beat such a seasoned veteran, a former multi-time champion, as in James Toney?
Well, I am going to prove to everybody that nobody can get in the ring with me and survive. I am going to prove that I am going to be the true heavyweight champion of the world. So Sept. 2, everybody will see what is going to happen.
James, are you going to knock him out or win a decision?
I am a fighter. That is what I do. I beat people up. I make them quit, knock them out, whatever. You have known me all these years, you know that if I do not knock him out, I will have him destroyed by the end of the fight. That is what I do.
Sam, what happens when you hit Toney with your best punch and he is still standing?
I will hit him with my best punch, but he will not stand up.
James, do you feel you can be as effective in the middle of the ring as you would be if you were against the ropes?
I am the complete fighter. Everybody wants to keep saying I am a boxer. I do not box. I fight. That is what I do. You know that and he knows that. Come Sept. 2, I am going to be there and I am not going anywhere. My style never changes. I do not run from anybody. I have been in with the best fighters in the world, better fighters than him. So it does not matter. Whatever he has got to do is not going to be enough. I wish I could fight him now.
Why is this fight inspiring so much anger in both of you?
It is not me, man. It is them. They came at me the wrong way in the press conference, disrespecting me in front of my family.
Well, sport is unity. We go in there to do what we are supposed to do. If James Toney is mad, let him be mad. If he is crazy, let him be crazy.
What do you both think your opponent’s greatest strength is and how will you overcome it?
Everything I do is great. I have seen it all. I have been in with the best. I have seen it all. There isn’t anything I haven’t seen before. Let me tell you something. Heat up the water. I am going to put that fire out for him.
Sam, do you think that a knockout may be the only way you can win this fight?
Well, I have got to prove myself.
James, do you get tired of not being recognized for your all-around boxing skills? Does that bother you sometimes to not get that kind of recognition?
It bothers me all the time, but you know what? I am going to have the last laugh at the end and then I am going to say, “I told you so.’ I know what I can do. I know who the man is that will win Sept. 2.
The roles have been reversed here because you said the attack was made against you and in reality, you are just retaliating?
Exactly. Then when I retaliate, everybody wants to say what I do. You know what I am saying? This is boxing, this is me. I take everything personal.
James, do you think a knockout will be the only way you will be assured of a victory?
That is right. I am great shape. When I am in great shape, I will be knocking somebody out.
Someone is going to get physically damaged, and it will not be me.
Sam, do you think about the stuff James said during the last conference call or is it something you just know happens and move on?
I forget about everything. Mostly, I am thinking about is how I will walk through Toney.
Nobody is going to send me (anywhere). So my plan now is just to walk through Toney.
James, of all your opponents, who does Sam Peter remind you of?
Iran Barkley.
Do you still feel that Barkley hit you harder than anybody has ever hit you?
He hit like a mule and plus he is dumb as an ox. I am a fighter. I was born a fighter. These guys were taught to fight. That is the difference between me and everybody else.
Sam, you have gone the distance in your career four times. Do you feel that might be a part of James’ plan, to take you late in the fight?
I am going to fight him how I fight. (There is) no plan. He is going to come at me trying to knock me out — whatever, please do. I am ready. Know what? I am done with my questions for the day. You all have a good day out there in TV land. I have left the building.
Well, he is going to jump to my punches.
Heavyweights leave the call. Call continues with Guerrero and Aikens.
Eric, are you confident enough, if this fight is close, that you could win a close fight on his home turf?
Absolutely. I feel that the judges have been pretty fair. You see he has lost out there before in front of his hometown. So I think the judging will be pretty fair, but I am not leaving it into the hands of the judges.
Considering your last performance, do you feel there is still a lot expected from you?
Absolutely. I will not lose my desire until I am named pound for pound one of the best fighters in the world and I have not had that recognition as of yet. So my desire has not gone anywhere.
Robert, do you feel that without that setback to Diaz, there would not be a title shot now? Do you feel like you had to suffer that setback in order to gain the notoriety that you could possibly obtain to be victorious on Sept. 2?
I knew I had to build my way back up and the loss was a setback. But that is why I jumped right back in with the rematch with Diaz. Usually you get a guy that will go four or five fights and then get back in a rematch. Me, I jumped right back in and knocked him out. So it threw me right back in the game and proved to everybody that I am worthy of getting that title shot.
What did you feel that you learned from your one defeat?
I learned a lot out. You cannot overlook anybody. You have to be in shape for everybody. You have to come to fight at all times and I am coming Sept. 2.
Robert and Eric, you are both soft-spoken guys and religious guys. What is your reaction to
what you just heard with the two heavyweights, at least one heavyweight?
It is what it is. He is one type of fighter and we are totally different from that. It is a tough act to follow. It is not as entertaining. But that is not my personality. I do not do all that trash talking and profanity and things of that nature. I do not need to. I just get in the ring and fight.
I am not one of those guys that like to badmouth people or come off trying to scare people. I do my talking in the ring. I come to fight at all times. Nobody is going to scare me by telling me they are going to knock me out or beat me up because I am a warrior for Christ and with Christ behind me, nothing stops me. So nothing pumps fear into me. I am ready to fight and nobody is talking me into fighting. Nobody is talking me out of fighting.
Eric, how did you get the nickname Mighty Mouse?
Well, I was always called “Mouse,” but after fighting for awhile and having some good knockouts and things of that nature, the “Mighty” just came along.
Eric, could you tell us how you first got into boxing?
Well, initially my cousin, Luther “Sugar Man” Smith, took me into the gym when I was 16 years old, back in ’96, and I just stuck with it ever since. I would get a good workout. I used to enjoy going to watch him fight as an amateur. From just going into the gym, the trainer said that they had never seen anyone my size with my kind of power. So my first eight amateur fights were all knockouts, and I just fell in love with it and stuck with it.
How long did it take for you to start taking the sport seriously?
When I saw I had potential. I would say, as an amateur, I was 97-5 with like 50-60 something knockouts. So that showed me that I had some potential. I have been taking it seriously ever since. I have not really had that much of a long layoff since I started.
Eric, earlier this year, you were fighting little known opponents in Columbus, Ohio. What change took place that you were then able to step up and beat the last two top level guys you fought?
Other than me rededicating my life to Christ, I get up for big fights. I am not getting any younger. I am 26 years old. But I do not feel that I need to fight the lesser-known opponents anymore. I want to be in the echelon of fighters, to be a champion, world champion, and I have to fight guys like Robert Guerrero. I have to fight guys like Tim Austin, Valdemir Perreira and whoever else to get that recognition that I do deserve.
What has been happening in your last two fights because both of your opponents have been penalized for low blows and Perreira ended up being disqualified for that?
You have got to ask my opponents. When you get hit by “Mighty Mouse,” you take drastic measures into your own hands sometimes because those were not the only times I have been hit low. So I guess that is the resort guys go to.
Robert, how do you approach somebody like Eric who has not gotten the national attention that some of the other major fighters have?
You approach them the same way you approach everybody. You respect them. You work hard for everybody the same way because if you have two hands and you know to swing them, you are a dangerous man. So no matter who it is, it could be a taxicab driver, anybody. If they have two hands, they can swing a glove, and you have got to watch out.
Do you know much about his style?
He is a strong puncher and he comes to fight. That says it all there. Everybody has seen his fight with Austin and Perreira. He comes to fight.
Robert and Eric, do you have anything in closing you want to say?
I am just coming to fight Sept. 2. I am on, ready, training hard. It is time for me to take charge of the stage and become the new featherweight champion of the world.
I just want everyone to tune in. It is going to be a great fight. And since we had such difficulty following Peter and Toney after their interview, we are going to be a tough act to follow after our fight because it will be a good fight.
