Thread: If Taylor Beats Wright Convincingly, Does He Go To #2 P4P?

Given the fact that Wright is #2 on most P4P lists and Jermain's stock rose when Hopkins dominated Tarver, should Taylor rise to #2 P4P with a convincing win over Winky? IMO he definitely does!!

No reason for Taylor to move above Mayweather or Pac here. Id put him 3rd and Winky 4th or 5th.

Originally Posted by AC-Cobra

No reason for Taylor to move above Mayweather or Pac here. Id put him 3rd and Winky 4th or 5th.

Why do you say that dude?

Taylor has beaton tow guys that were/are in everyones top 2/3 P4P before the fights, he defo goes above Pac who is 1/1 with Morales, and there is still business to settle i would favour Pac to beat him in the thired meeting but for now Taylor goes one or two for me with a good win over Winky.

Originally Posted by skel1983

Originally Posted by AC-Cobra

No reason for Taylor to move above Mayweather or Pac here. Id put him 3rd and Winky 4th or 5th.

Why do you say that dude?

Taylor has beaton tow guys that were/are in everyones top 2/3 P4P before the fights, he defo goes above Pac who is 1/1 with Morales, and there is still business to settle i would favour Pac to beat him in the thired meeting but for now Taylor goes one or two for me with a good win over Winky.

Id say hes behind Mayweather as Mayweather hasnt been proven to be in decline since he beat Castillo, Corrales etc. Again, Pac just knocked out Morales so Id give him the benefit of the doubt. I say put the P4P on hold for two weeks. If Pac beats Larios, hes above Taylor, if not Taylor's above him

Taylor will be my #1 p4p fighter.

#1 he beat Bernard Hopkins TWICE
#2 he will have beaten the toughest opponent he could find in Winky Wright
#3 PBF has not fought his toughest opponents
#4 Pac has just beaten MAB and Morales, not much else

That being said, PBF will have to fight Margarito or Hatton/Cotto to be on the same level as Taylor

Pac would have to beat JMM and Larios

Originally Posted by AC-Cobra

Originally Posted by skel1983

Originally Posted by AC-Cobra

No reason for Taylor to move above Mayweather or Pac here. Id put him 3rd and Winky 4th or 5th.

Why do you say that dude?

Taylor has beaton tow guys that were/are in everyones top 2/3 P4P before the fights, he defo goes above Pac who is 1/1 with Morales, and there is still business to settle i would favour Pac to beat him in the thired meeting but for now Taylor goes one or two for me with a good win over Winky.

Id say hes behind Mayweather as Mayweather hasnt been proven to be in decline since he beat Castillo, Corrales etc. Again, Pac just knocked out Morales so Id give him the benefit of the doubt. I say put the P4P on hold for two weeks. If Pac beats Larios, hes above Taylor, if not Taylor's above him

Pacman > the same Larios who just got destroyed by Vasquez means more than Taylor > Wright who hasnt lost in years?!? Sounds like a blindly loyal Pacman fan to me!!

Originally Posted by Lyle

Taylor will be my #1 p4p fighter.

#1 he beat Bernard Hopkins TWICE
#2 he will have beaten the toughest opponent he could find in Winky Wright
#3 PBF has not fought his toughest opponents
#4 Pac has just beaten MAB and Morales, not much else

That being said, PBF will have to fight Margarito or Hatton/Cotto to be on the same level as Taylor

Pac would have to beat JMM and Larios

How about Floyd beating Oscar, who even at 33 is still a much better and more risky fight for Floyd than the recently exposed Hatton & the one-dimensional Margarito!!

Dude,Ricky won the fight and even if you think he lost,it was by 1round at the most,that is not being exposed in any sense of the word. Secondly,I don't think you have seen enough of Tony to say he is 1 dimensional.Here's a few examples: Against Santos,turned southpaw to adjust,landed big shots,worked the body well but against Cintron,took on the role of the boxer,using the jab,picking his shots and of course,against Gomez,the normal Tony,going to war. He is intelligent and can adapt to the situation.

Originally Posted by The Game

Dude,Ricky won the fight and even if you think he lost,it was by 1round at the most,that is not being exposed in any sense of the word. Secondly,I don't think you have seen enough of Tony to say he is 1 dimensional.Here's a few examples: Against Santos,turned southpaw to adjust,landed big shots,worked the body well but against Cintron,took on the role of the boxer,using the jab,picking his shots and of course,against Gomez,the normal Tony,going to war. He is intelligent and can adapt to the situation.

You HONESTLY think DeLaHoys has LESS of a chance to beat Floyd than Hatton or Margarito?!? Plus PBF will make more money fighting Oscar than he would Hatton & Margarito COMBINED!!

Originally Posted by CrunchTime

Originally Posted by The Game

Dude,Ricky won the fight and even if you think he lost,it was by 1round at the most,that is not being exposed in any sense of the word. Secondly,I don't think you have seen enough of Tony to say he is 1 dimensional.Here's a few examples: Against Santos,turned southpaw to adjust,landed big shots,worked the body well but against Cintron,took on the role of the boxer,using the jab,picking his shots and of course,against Gomez,the normal Tony,going to war. He is intelligent and can adapt to the situation.

You HONESTLY think DeLaHoys has LESS of a chance to beat Floyd than Hatton or Margarito?!? Plus PBF will make more money fighting Oscar than he would Hatton & Margarito COMBINED!!

Whats money got to do with P4P status??

Hatton wasnt exposed he won the fight get over yourself, Oscar Dela hoya is a great no doubt but wtf has money got to do with anything about p4p.

Everyone is basing Oscar's chances of beating Floyd on his performance against Mayorga but that did not answer questions about Oscar's stamina or whether he can still box with the best of them. He went to war and won,I highly doubt PBF will go to war. If he does,ONLY then will Oscar win and not just that,Oscar's hesistance to make a decision shows he is not 100% clear that he can beat Floyd!
I know PBF will make more money but I don't see why that has relevance here!I just would rather see him fight Tony at 147 and Hatton at 140.

Originally Posted by CrunchTime

Originally Posted by AC-Cobra

Originally Posted by skel1983

Originally Posted by AC-Cobra

No reason for Taylor to move above Mayweather or Pac here. Id put him 3rd and Winky 4th or 5th.

Why do you say that dude?

Taylor has beaton tow guys that were/are in everyones top 2/3 P4P before the fights, he defo goes above Pac who is 1/1 with Morales, and there is still business to settle i would favour Pac to beat him in the thired meeting but for now Taylor goes one or two for me with a good win over Winky.

Id say hes behind Mayweather as Mayweather hasnt been proven to be in decline since he beat Castillo, Corrales etc. Again, Pac just knocked out Morales so Id give him the benefit of the doubt. I say put the P4P on hold for two weeks. If Pac beats Larios, hes above Taylor, if not Taylor's above him

Pacman > the same Larios who just got destroyed by Vasquez means more than Taylor > Wright who hasnt lost in years?!? Sounds like a blindly loyal Pacman fan to me!!

Thats just running with an extreme version of what I said.

Think of this in a league sort of thing if you will.

I have Pacman in front of JT by a fair bit at the moment due to his conquering of Morales, JMM (robbery draw) and MAB. Compared with JT "beating" an ageing Hopkins in what many say as highly controversial fights. In my P4P list Pac is 3rd and JT is 8th.

Therefore if Taylor beats Wright and Pacman beats Larios. JT will close the gap on Pac due to beating Winky being more significant than beating Larios. However comparing resume's IMO will still leave Pac ahead of JT as we cannot discredit what PAC has done recently as listed before.

As M_D would say

Hope this helps

Even if Floyd was to beat De la Hoya Taylor would still be my #1 p4p.

Taylor did not wait for challenges he went out and got them
Taylor did not use his stature after winning 2 big fights vs Bernard Hopkins to fight some shmoe
Taylor is younger and has already fought tougher fighters than Floyd

I'm not dissing Floyd but he has to actively seek out challenges, if he's so good why doesn't he show us by beating people that we want to see him fight: Margarito, Hatton, Cotto instead of fighting Zab Judah and Sharmba Mitchell.

im not trying to be sarcastic, but who else has Jt beat other than Bhop, i doubt its the same as the opposition floyd and pacman have. i think Jt needs 2 more big fights before hes up there, with floyd and pac.

Originally Posted by Lyle

Taylor will be my #1 p4p fighter.

#1 he beat Bernard Hopkins TWICE
#2 he will have beaten the toughest opponent he could find in Winky Wright
#3 PBF has not fought his toughest opponents
#4 Pac has just beaten MAB and Morales, not much else

See for me taylor has still got alot more to do before hes p4p #1

I know hes got 2 wins over hopkins, but hopkins showed what he can do when he wants to come forward. I hardly seen hopkins come forward in his fights with taylor. the first 4 rounds of both fights i hardly seen hopkins lift a glove to throw a punch. I thought he was very lucky to win both fights, and was dissapointed he didn't preasure hopkins more to make him tire

PBF did beat castillo twice... but i still think he needs to fight cotto/hatton - id like to see him go in the ring with collazo as well.

Pac is a good fighter, but he isn't in my top 5 P4P