Thread: Holyfield Defeats Oquendo: Another Spirit Broken

10.11.06 - By Ted Sares: I watched the fight tonight and two things were crystal clear. 1) Evander Holyfield needs to retire right now and 2) Fres Oquendo won the fight. How the judges could give it to "The Real Deal" is beyond my wildest imagination. Sure, he knocked Oquendo down in the first round, but it was a flash knockdown that did no damage. In fact, Fres may have won the rest of the round.

To win a fight, you need to let your hands go, throw punches and land a few. Holyfield did neither. You think Quartey and Forrest was bad? This goes right along side and the surprised look on Ronnie Shield's face when the decision was announced affirms that notion more than any words can.

In the first fight on the under card, one of the may unknown (at least to me) judges somehow voted in favor of Elizondo over Navarro (who won handily) and this was a precursor of what was to come. The only possible way for Fres to have won that fight would have been by knockout. In the main event, the judges had their minds made up from the get go..

While Fres may have not done much to enhance his reputation in San Antonio tonight, he did do one thing. He won the fight. Make no mistake of that.

This was a politically correct decision....and it was bile-inducing.

Hell ya

Found this on youtube. Its the first knockdown
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good to see old evander's still got that flavour saver. i couldnt notice it in his last fight with that bates fela.

....told yall, now watch Don King put him in with Valuev!!!!

just look at Oquendo's feet when he got hit, one right in front of the other, almost to the point of being crossed

legit knockdown but it didnt really hurt him

I wanna see the rest of this... another classic Don King decision, its depressing, especially for Fres, gotta feel bad for him

Originally Posted by Lyle

....told yall, now watch Don King put him in with Valuev!!!!

He looked pretty good huh, Do you think Holy could beat Valuev? If Holy was too fight Wlad, Wlad right now is my favorite, But if he(Holy) fought for title against Wlad, I would want Holy to win just where he would secure his legecy and 5 time champ. What do you think?

It caused be for be 0fer in this week of the prediction contest. Thus far...


Anyway, the score cards were close so I am not sure if the fix was on or not. I did not view the fight.

Originally Posted by TheDukeof74

He looked pretty good huh, Do you think Holy could beat Valuev? If Holy was too fight Wlad, Wlad right now is my favorite, But if he(Holy) fought for title against Wlad, I would want Holy to win just where he would secure his legecy and 5 time champ. What do you think?

I do not Evander to be 5 time champ anymore than I want Valuev to go 49 and 0

It's not that he looked good it's just Don King wants Valuev to seem like a true champion much like he did with John Ruiz.

By taking fighters that are past their primes, not at the top of the division and hyping them up he will try to legitimize his champion.


Think about it, Holyfield = DKP fighter....Valuev= DKP fighter.....it's a win-win for Don. If Valuev wins he has a little more cred (in Don's eyes) and If Evander wins then he's back and perhaps has a shot at DKP fighter Oleg Maskaev.....OR Lamon Brewster, John Ruiz, etc get shots at Holyfield and the title is still controlled by Don King.....that's all it boils down to

Don King brings an aura of Professional Wrestling to boxing....there is a script and he follows it and either way it comes out he's a winner.

So now that Holyfield won, I guess it's Briggs vs. Holyfield afterall.....

....Briggs is Ced Kushner's fighter....he's going to get Sultan Ibragimov (now trained by Jeff Mayweather)


1) Because Briggs is dangerous

2) Ibragimov is Oscar's fighter

3) CKP wants to keep their title too

4) Golden Boy needs bigger status in the heavyweight division

5) No one at this division wants to take risks!

Originally Posted by Lyle

....Briggs is Ced Kushner's fighter....he's going to get Sultan Ibragimov (now trained by Jeff Mayweather)

But this $ will get them BOTH in the ring.....

Maybe we should all watch it before we believe a reporter. After all one probably had Chavez beating Whitaker.