Thread: can pac destroy valero?

im just new hir...dis is my 1st post...i hope someone will reply on dis...

i think pac will continue to win,he just to keep his head down and not to be overconfident...overconfidence end careers...

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And to answer your question, YES.... Pac woudl destroy Valero at this time... Valero is good but by any means at this moment hes just not ready for him they are worlds apart...

Valero would be overwhelmed by speed and techinique say what you wan't about Pac hes improved immensely and would judt be too much for the much greener Valero I think Valeros got a bright future and it shouldn't be ruined in a mismatch so I hope his people don't try to make this happen at least not yet...

I think he would. Pacquiao would be such a huge step up then Valero has ever faced

valero is slow as hell
and he has fought craps
but dont get it wrong
a KO is a KO no matter who you fought
this means he can really punch
but guys like EM and MAB were devastating punchers too
and pac took their best blows pretty well
a focused pac would destroy valero

Originally Posted by the_answer

valero is slow as hell
and he has fought craps
but dont get it wrong
a KO is a KO no matter who you fought
this means he can really punch
but guys like EM and MAB were devastating punchers too
and pac took their best blows pretty well
a focused pac would destroy valero

Mosquera was not a crap fighter. While I don't think Valero can beat Pac right now, I do think he can give him problems. If Larios was able to stun Pac I see no reason Valero can't either.

Originally Posted by Rotten Apple

Originally Posted by the_answer

valero is slow as hell
and he has fought craps
but dont get it wrong
a KO is a KO no matter who you fought
this means he can really punch
but guys like EM and MAB were devastating punchers too
and pac took their best blows pretty well
a focused pac would destroy valero

Mosquera was not a crap fighter. While I don't think Valero can beat Pac right now, I do think he can give him problems. If Larios was able to stun Pac I see no reason Valero can't either.

yeah larios gave pac problems
120-108, 118-110, 118-110
pretty close huh
pac gave larios a beating
while i thought he intended not to knock him out early,
larios was game and had his chance in round3
BUT larios is larios, a bonafide champ,
has proven a lot and has been on wars not sparring sessions
he has fought champs and legit contenders
while valero has beaten cab drivers
its obvious that he has power... but its not enough
he is a slow sloth and with pac's speed its gonna be a tragic fight for him
pac's speed is power...and valero only has power - w/c i doubt... its just me

Originally Posted by spine_buster

im just new hir...dis is my 1st post...i hope someone will reply on dis...

i think pac will continue to win,he just to keep his head down and not to be overconfident...overconfidence end careers...

It will be an hell of a fight for two rounds and then I think exp will take over, Ko win for Manny.

Originally Posted by Rotten Apple

Originally Posted by the_answer

valero is slow as hell
and he has fought craps
but dont get it wrong
a KO is a KO no matter who you fought
this means he can really punch
but guys like EM and MAB were devastating punchers too
and pac took their best blows pretty well
a focused pac would destroy valero

Mosquera was not a crap fighter. While I don't think Valero can beat Pac right now, I do think he can give him problems. If Larios was able to stun Pac I see no reason Valero can't either.

CC, agreed. Pac beats him handily if they fight next though IMO...

Originally Posted by the_answer

yeah larios gave pac problems
120-108, 118-110, 118-110
pretty close huh
pac gave larios a beating
while i thought he intended not to knock him out early,
larios was game and had his chance in round3
BUT larios is larios, a bonafide champ,
has proven a lot and has been on wars not sparring sessions
he has fought champs and legit contenders
while valero has beaten cab drivers
its obvious that he has power... but its not enough
he is a slow sloth and with pac's speed its gonna be a tragic fight for him
pac's speed is power...and valero only has power - w/c i doubt... its just me

i was thinking the same

i think this fight would be SICK! and it wont last long at all. im just mad EV cant fight on US soil man and if the fight is made Arum has a deal with WYNN so its gonna be in that new resort in ASIA i believe?

PAC should fight at the staples center i bet he can sell it out now more than ever especially if he fight like MAB.

Valero would be silly to take this fight now,he far far too inexperienced to win and although it would be great for a few rounds,Manny would KTFO V nom. However,give him a year,to work on and polish his skills and V Nom would do Pac some damage. He would be the biggest guy Pac has faced,and BY FAR the most powerful so I'd like to believe he would be able to hurt Pac. He needs time though,18 1 rounders,1 2 rounder and a world itle is NOWHERE near enough experience!

With valero's wins via first round knock outs except for the last one, if Pacquaio survives the first round Valero will be in trouble. I'm afraid the damage in his head might gets worse if Pacquaio will be able to hit him with just one left in the head like the one Morales experienced during their third fight.

V nom is better than you guys think.

Expect the unexpected. Pac don't want no V nom!

Better to stick with the old fighters and make money off of them.
That is Barrera and Marquez.


If Pacquiao wants to fight another young and hungry AND TALENTED
fighter.... he'll get old just as fast as Morales.

Originally Posted by Gyrokai

V nom is better than you guys think.

Expect the unexpected. Pac don't want no V nom!

Better to stick with the old fighters and make money off of them.
That is Barrera and Marquez.


If Pacquiao wants to fight another young and hungry AND TALENTED
fighter.... he'll get old just as fast as Morales.

This one I slightly believe, but what a sweet victory it is if PAC stops Valero as well including the oldies you mentioned. PAC has 2 full years before he reaches 30, on those 24 months he can fight MAB, JMM, Guzman and Valero then retire if he beats all four Nothing wrong with wishful thinking considering it's highly possible.

Originally Posted by Humble

Originally Posted by Gyrokai

V nom is better than you guys think.

Expect the unexpected. Pac don't want no V nom!

Better to stick with the old fighters and make money off of them.
That is Barrera and Marquez.


If Pacquiao wants to fight another young and hungry AND TALENTED
fighter.... he'll get old just as fast as Morales.

This one I slightly believe, but what a sweet victory it is if PAC stops Valero as well including the oldies you mentioned. PAC has 2 full years before he reaches 30, on those 24 months he can fight MAB, JMM, Guzman and Valero then retire if he beats all four Nothing wrong with wishful thinking considering it's highly possible.

I picked Morales over Pacquiao only once. And that was in their first matchup.
I REALLY wanted Morales to knock him out. BUT I was reminded once again...
... young, hungry, talented, good decent chin... you can't knock them out. heheh

I believe Valero is of the same mold. He won't go down as easy as these guys say.
It will be a war, with Pacquiao the lesser in powerpunching for once. cc'd you.