Thread: Here's a nice article on Edwin Valero

'Valero Looks Monstrous' by Joe Koizumi

http://www.fightnews.com/koizumi355.htm

As I've been always saying here, if there is anyone who can beat Pac today, it might be Valero. This is definitely the guy to watch.

CC bro,AWESOME read. I love Valero but you hear how great he sounds in sparring,I wish he showed his skills in an actual fight rather than trying to KTFo everyone! I am SOOOO HAPPY his trainer said they will not fight Pacman,not in 2007 anyway. I hope,1 day,V Nom/El Inca is the man to KTFO Pac!!!

CC to you, brod. When I saw the #1 on the reply, I knew it was you El Gamo cuz you're about the only one here who answers my threads, haha. Thanx for not making me look like a fool here, though I kinda got used to it so I'll still be starting some thread once in a while even though shy members here don't reply, at least they view them. I'll only stop when I come up with 10 consecutive threads with no reply and NO VIEW!. Then, I'll be sure I'm talking nonsense.

Originally Posted by pacfan

CC to you, brod. When I saw the #1 on the reply, I knew it was you El Gamo cuz you're about the only one here who answers my threads, haha. Thanx for not making me look like a fool here, though I kinda got used to it so I'll still be starting some thread once in a while even though shy members here don't reply, at least they view them. I'll only stop when I come up with 10 consecutive threads with no reply and NO VIEW!. Then, I'll be sure I'm talking nonsense.

Bro,it's not like that at all,you're well respected and liked here!! I have posted MANY threads where no one responds,it does not mean anything at all! It's an awesome read. What did you think about it?

Hehehe to all who wants to get their vengeance on PAC( and his fans) this is the guy to root for.
If PAC stops Valero too then who are they gonna root for next
It's hard to put a good man down I guess

Originally Posted by Humble

Hehehe to all who wants to get their vengeance on PAC this is the guy to root for.
If PAC stops Valero too then who are they gonna root for next
It's hard to put a good man down I guess

I keep hearing from everyone that Valero looks great in his sparring session...but...I hate to say this...especially for his fans...but IWO...he looks like shit in several of his fights...& that's all I have seen...just a handful of fights.

He tries to hard to make a statement & he ends up appearing wide open & sloppy as hell. Granted...for being so wide open...he appears to have a hell of a chin.

I like my fighters to be either great defensively or either more of a complete package.

He fights Pacquiao...he'll get exposed...even though I have often considered Pac as being a bit of a one dimensional fighter.

Pac has improved of late though...maybe Valero can too.

Originally Posted by wacko3205

Originally Posted by Humble

Hehehe to all who wants to get their vengeance on PAC this is the guy to root for.
If PAC stops Valero too then who are they gonna root for next
It's hard to put a good man down I guess

I keep hearing from everyone that Valero looks great in his sparring session...but...I hate to say this...especially for his fans...but IWO...he looks like S*** in several of his fights...& that's all I have seen...just a handful of fights.

He tries to hard to make a statement & he ends up appearing wide open & sloppy as hell. Granted...for being so wide open...he appears to have a hell of a chin.

I like my fighters to be either great defensively or either more of a complete package.

He fights Pacquiao...he'll get exposed...even though I have often considered Pac as being a bit of a one dimensional fighter.

Pac has improved of late though...maybe Valero can too.

GREAT point Wacko. Valero Indeed is the greatest threat to PAC IMO. A raw Valero is deadly I can just imagine what a refined one would do.

Originally Posted by Humble

Originally Posted by wacko3205

Originally Posted by Humble

Hehehe to all who wants to get their vengeance on PAC this is the guy to root for.
If PAC stops Valero too then who are they gonna root for next
It's hard to put a good man down I guess

I keep hearing from everyone that Valero looks great in his sparring session...but...I hate to say this...especially for his fans...but IWO...he looks like S*** in several of his fights...& that's all I have seen...just a handful of fights.

He tries to hard to make a statement & he ends up appearing wide open & sloppy as hell. Granted...for being so wide open...he appears to have a hell of a chin.

I like my fighters to be either great defensively or either more of a complete package.

He fights Pacquiao...he'll get exposed...even though I have often considered Pac as being a bit of a one dimensional fighter.

Pac has improved of late though...maybe Valero can too.

GREAT point Wacko. Valero Indeed is the greatest threat to PAC IMO. A raw Valero is deadly I can just imagine what a refined one would do.

I hate to sound like a broken record...but I look at Valero in the same light as I do Miranda.

With time...they could both be great. Both men suffer from the same syndrome...TMPNS Syndrome.

What might TMPNBS Syndrome be you ask?

To
Much
Power
Negates
Boxing
Skills

Work these bwoys in some more sparring sessions with Valero paired with JMM & then Miranda with Wright & all that coal turns to diamonds.

You just made the PERFECT fighter Wacko!!! CC to you again tomorrow Bro
With Winky's defense you just made them PERFECT!!!

Originally Posted by Humble

You just made the PERFECT fighter Wacko!!! CC to you again tomorrow Bro
With Winky's defense you just made them PERFECT!!!

Yep. I was thinking that meself.

Miranda with Wright's defensive abilities & that jab...he'd be damned near unbeatable...for that matter...just imagine Wright with Miranda's pop. GOTDAM!!!!

That being said...the same goes for Valero coupled with JMM's countering abilities.

Hell of a blend huh?

Like I said earlier,I agree,I think Valero look far far too wild and sloppy in fights and what makes that dissappoiting is the fact he looks so polished in sparring. When you see the guy blocking Morales shots and landing 3-4hit combos on Morales,you#re impressed. When he almost KTFO Ubano Antillon in sparring(he hurt the kid so bad the session had to be stopped),you realise his power. When you see him sparring with Lazcano(who never came back and left alll his things@Valero's camp) and when he spars with the bigger of the Santa Cruz brothers and he is using foot movement to outbox them,and then backing them up with his power,you're impressed...and then he fights like a wildman!!!

I just hope this move to Japan helps him.

Wow. Then Pac must watch this guy. This guy must be a real contender.

So it just takes an El Gamo's to start the thread going heh, alright then, you'll hired! Gamo. We'll talk about the pay later.

Ya I'll have toagree with almost everyone here that Valero may be too raw for Pac for now, though I have to admit I haven't seen any of his fight. I really wanted to see the Mosquerra fight but with my dial-up, I just don't have the patience to download anything above 50megs. I'm pretty good analyzing when I see a fight, though. Even if they say he knocked out some cab drivers, a record-breaking one-round ko's are simply awesome by any standard and can't just be ignored. And to think that Pac's chin is not among the best, that's scary. Maybe the big question is if Valero can improve and be a decent technical boxer. I have my doubts though primarily because training in Japan may not be the best thing to do for him. 1st, I think they don't have enough good sparring partners there (the last I've heard is that he was sparring one of our boy Suico - geeze, he's a slow robot!), and 2nd, Japanese training method may not be the best for him. I'm familiar with Japanese boxing and when it comes to training, Japanese are pretty much orthodox in their style. So how far Valero goes remains to be seen. I'd really love to see Valero becoming a really great fighter and ultimately fighting Pac in a big, hyped-up match seen in all over the world, and of course...win. Who else is there in the future?

All right, I've given everyone here my CC.

Originally Posted by pacfan

I have my doubts though primarily because training in Japan may not be the best thing to do for him. 1st, I think they don't have enough good sparring partners there (the last I've heard is that he was sparring one of our boy Suico - geeze, he's a slow robot!), and 2nd, Japanese training method may not be the best for him. I'm familiar with Japanese boxing and when it comes to training, Japanese are pretty much orthodox in their style.

Admittedly...I aint that big on Valero right now...but I'm just curious...why Japan?

Didn't he have some kind of visa problems or some shit regarding the U.S.?

Not sure...but I thought I had heard something like that...maybe I'm wrong...again...I have'nt followed him all that closely.

Originally Posted by pacfan

All right, I've given everyone here my CC.

right back.

Thanx Wacko. I'm not sure why he chose Japan but I guess money-wise it's the next best thing to the US of A. I think he's banned in the U.S. to box, not banned from entering, though I'm not sure, so I think it's got nothing to do with a visa problem.