hey dude u bit my idea and called yourself the platinum boy huh? wheres my props man give me my CC![]()
let's see last 16 yearswhy 16
?
Holyfield, Lewis, Bowe, Roy Jones Jr., De la Hoya, Mosley....all those should be mentioned before FLOYD
For me Marco Antonio Barrera, Roy Jones and felix trinidad & Delahoya. Floyd Mayweather is good but can you say he's beat the calibre of fighters Barrera, Jones or trinidad did and ODH.
im sorry he has'nt yet IMO because he skipped through divisions missing one or two top dogs along the way wheather you think he beats them or not he picked up a belt at lightwelter missing both Tyszu and Hatton. and he did'nt stick around to try and force a fight a moved up fighting a past it Gatti, On the slide coming off a defeat Judah then beat a limited although strong Baldomir. His fight list is'nt as impressive IMO yet but he has the abilty to overcome all of them and age but as for yet IMO he not in that class yet he needs to beat 2-3 more fighters with 2 big fight in there.
Originally Posted by Lyle
im guessing 16 years because it would take us back to 1990 (soon to be 1991 though)
holyfield.............. nope. he loses too many fights (a few in his prime as well) and is probably the most overrated fighter in the history of boxing
lennox lewis was good, but theres no forgiving getting knocked out by hassim rahman and dont forget that vitali was giving lummox a beating before he got cut
bowe is one of my all time favorites, but he hasnt achieved nearly as much as mayweather and as much as i hate lennox.........bowe was running from him. not to mention, a great fighter would never get beat up on by golata
as for roy jones jr......... i was torn between him and mayweather but the devestating ko from tarver put a hurt on his legacy, plus he lost to glen johnson, which is inexcuseable
delahoya has also lost too many big fights and should have AT LEAST 2 more losses on his record (sturm and quartey)
mosley got schooled real bad by vernon forrest and winky wright. forrest is crap, and wright would be one of my top choices for greatest of the last 15 years (after pernell whitaker)
so i guess it goes like this................
1.) floyd mayweather jr.
2.) roy jones jr.
3.) pernell whitaker
4.) winky wright
Here's a few
JC Chavez
Whitaker
RJJ
R Lopez
Tyson
Holyfield
B-Hop
De La Hoya
MAB
Morales
Lewis
PBF
A. Nelson
Mosley
Toney
Trinidad
McCallum
Tszyu
Pac
Calzaghe
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nigel bennOriginally Posted by BIG H
chris eubank
james toney
rjj
floyd mayweather
pernell whitaker
lennox lewis
evander holyfield
tszyu
bernard hopkins
oscar dela hoya
winky wright
pac
mab
morales
trinidad
virgil hill
naz
julian jackson
mccallum
I like your list Lyle I would put them in this order and add
1) Evander Holyfield
2) Roy Jones jr
3)Pernelll Whitaker
4)Oscar Delahoya
5) Shane Mosely
6) Bernard Hopkins
7) Felix Trinidad
8 Marco Antonio Barrera
9) Lennox Lewis
10) James Toney
11) Winky Wright
12)Julio Caesar Chavez
13) Kosta Tszyu
14) Floyd Mayweather jr
15) George Foreman
16) Joe Calzaghe
ETC....
WOW! I dont think I can pick just the one.
But my top 10 in no order:
Marco Antonio Barrera
Eric Morales
Kostya Tszyu
Oscar De La Hoya
Evander Holyfield
Julio Caesar Chavez
Castillo
Chris Eubank
Pacman
Lennox Lewis
Thats off the top of my head and could vary everytime I was asked this question
Without a doubt Bantamweight Adjib Guessab.
For every story told that divides us, I believe there are a thousand untold that unite us.
Can't say floyd at this moment in time, he still has a couple of fighters he must beat to secure this status.
ODLH definately
Barrera
Toney
Gotta giv it to Lewis, even though he was boring
Bernard Hopkins
Trinidad
Roy JJ
Chavez
Calzaghe, i think his success is far underrated. He has defended his title more times than any other British fighter!
Tyson, still sent shivers through the decision even during his decline.
In a couple of years time, Pacman will be on this list
Easy answer. "El Finito" Ricardo Lopez
I would have to state a case for Bernard Hopkins. He was middleweight champion for 10 years 2 months. He only lost to Roy Jones who was in his prime. He broke the record for middleweight title defenses. Making a total of 20. He defended the belt against.
Bo James, Joe Lipsey, Glen Johnson, Simon Brown, Robert Allen 3times, Antwun Echols 2 times, Syd Vanderpool when he was actually somebody, Carl Daniels, William Joppy, Oscar De La Hoya, Howard Eastman and fought Taylor twice. Plus a few unmentioned.
He has been on the pound for pound list 3/4 of his career. Pretty good if you ask me.
1. Pernell Whitaker- didn't legitimately lose a fight for the first 15 years of his career. Trinidad loss is the only time he was legitimately defeated, and he was a 35 year old drug addict at that point.
2. Roy Jones- Lost 3 fights in a row at the end, but was unbeatable for the first 15 years of his career in a way similar to Whitaker.
Those are the clear top 2 IMO. Both men were unhittable in their prime, but age took away their speed and caused them to get hit more. I put Whitaker #1 based on his chin. As he got older and got hit, he proved that he had a great chin. He took Trinidad's best shots for 12 rounds at 147 and was still standing at the end. Trinidad being arguably the best puncher pound-for-pound of this post-1990 period.
On the other hand, when Jones lost his reflexes and movement, his chin proved to be suspect.
Rest:
3. Floyd Mayweather- the "new" Pernell Whitaker
4. Bernard Hopkins
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