Thread: In terms of Hatton's future.....

What do we want to see him do ? I think if Hatton keeps to his game plan he can safely beat Urango right? But i dont want to see him take the "I'm at 140 im inviniceble" approach if you know what i mean? Urango so i've heard isn't anywhere near Hattons level and that might push him to give a good performance. I heard somewhere he has never ever been put on his back and thats an achivement imo. I dont want Hatton took go for it early and the same thing happens again like the Luiz fight. Im sure Hatton will have trained hard for this and will get another "W". But he will have to fight well because i feel we see the best performaces of Hatton when he is the underdog.

In his time left i think Hatton should remain at 140 for 2-3 years MAX! Depending on match up's etc etc I dont want to see him stay at 140. I know somebody will reply to this and say thats where he is best at etc etc, but i don't feel the exciment and potential of Ricky Hatton can be fully forfilled at 140. I do feel if Ricky gets past Urango safely and fights Castillo and beats him he will be by far ahead of everybody else at 140. This is where i feel is will start to slip for Ricky because he will be so much better and win every match pretty safely. At the end of the day he will keep his undeafted record and say 'hey i beat everyone at 140' and he will call it a day. Thats what i don't want to see! I feel Ricky needs to press on and return to 147 and fight the real names. At 140 i want to see Hatton fight Castillo, Corralles, Witter and D-hop last. If he wins these fights i feel he does not even have to stay another second at 140.

147 will be the key for Ricky Hatton. The big names like Cotto, Margarito, Williams, Judah, Gatti etc and maybe even Floyd if he decides to stick around at 147. I feel if Hatton does stay at 140 for 2-3 years he can really justify why he moved back and go back to 147 and show us how exciting of a fighter he is. I would like to see Hatton re-match Luiz if he is still a big name in 2-3 years. If Hatton could get to 147 when he is 30 i feel he will make the 147 exciting to watch. The devison itself will be getting older on paper but it still won't stop an exciting matches from occuring. I feel if Ricky goes up and fights for a belt at 147 and shows us that he is a battler and he is a risk taker again! i would safely say we could remember Ricky Hatton as a British boxing legend.

What i dont want to see is Ricky taking the non-risk approach by brushing up the 140's and calling it a day. I think Ricky has years to show us what he is capable of. I would really like to see him fight Cotto in the near future and show me he is a real idol. I would be dissapointed if he does take the lame approach out of boxing because i would think to myself he was good but he could have done a lot better! I REALLY DO FEEL HATTON SHOULD GET BACK TO 147 ON THOSE GROUNDS!!!!!!!

what do you all feel on this because im a boxing fan and I want to see big risk fights and enjoy the sport compared to seeing the easy approach on Rickys behalf ?

IMO What he has is mind is Urango, June 2 againstCastillo in a possible PPV then if he comes through all that, a superfight PPV at 147/154 against Cotto, Mayweather, Mosley or Oscar.

Originally Posted by yoitsdan

IMO What he has is mind is Urango, June 2 againstCastillo in a possible PPV then if he comes through all that, a superfight PPV at 147/154 against Cotto, Mayweather, Mosley or Oscar.

Hatton at 154 ? isnt that bit to far out of his depth? the big names imo are at 147 there is no need for him going that far up. so is this just a thoery or has he acctually said those words ?

Originally Posted by Tam Seddon

Originally Posted by yoitsdan

IMO What he has is mind is Urango, June 2 againstCastillo in a possible PPV then if he comes through all that, a superfight PPV at 147/154 against Cotto, Mayweather, Mosley or Oscar.

Hatton at 154 ? isnt that bit to far out of his depth? the big names imo are at 147 there is no need for him going that far up. so is this just a thoery or has he acctually said those words ?

He'd face Oscar, Mayweather, Mosley or Cotto regardless of weight class. They are his own words.

Originally Posted by yoitsdan

Originally Posted by Tam Seddon

Originally Posted by yoitsdan

IMO What he has is mind is Urango, June 2 againstCastillo in a possible PPV then if he comes through all that, a superfight PPV at 147/154 against Cotto, Mayweather, Mosley or Oscar.

Hatton at 154 ? isnt that bit to far out of his depth? the big names imo are at 147 there is no need for him going that far up. so is this just a thoery or has he acctually said those words ?

He'd face Oscar, Mayweather, Mosley or Cotto regardless of weight class. They are his own words.

Intresting so he doesnt have any needs to stay at 140 then ? what i dont understand know is why the fuck is he fighting Urango then ?

Originally Posted by Tam Seddon

Originally Posted by yoitsdan

Originally Posted by Tam Seddon

Originally Posted by yoitsdan

IMO What he has is mind is Urango, June 2 againstCastillo in a possible PPV then if he comes through all that, a superfight PPV at 147/154 against Cotto, Mayweather, Mosley or Oscar.

Hatton at 154 ? isnt that bit to far out of his depth? the big names imo are at 147 there is no need for him going that far up. so is this just a thoery or has he acctually said those words ?

He'd face Oscar, Mayweather, Mosley or Cotto regardless of weight class. They are his own words.

Intresting so he doesnt have any needs to stay at 140 then ? what i dont understand know is why the fuck is he fighting Urango then ?

His next fight is Castillo, which is a super fight in its own right. That one is at 140. Urango is a world title fight, a re-adjustment to 140, and should be a barnstorrmer while it lasts, to get the american fans talking.

Originally Posted by yoitsdan

Originally Posted by Tam Seddon

Originally Posted by yoitsdan

Originally Posted by Tam Seddon

Originally Posted by yoitsdan

IMO What he has is mind is Urango, June 2 againstCastillo in a possible PPV then if he comes through all that, a superfight PPV at 147/154 against Cotto, Mayweather, Mosley or Oscar.

Hatton at 154 ? isnt that bit to far out of his depth? the big names imo are at 147 there is no need for him going that far up. so is this just a thoery or has he acctually said those words ?

He'd face Oscar, Mayweather, Mosley or Cotto regardless of weight class. They are his own words.

Intresting so he doesnt have any needs to stay at 140 then ? what i dont understand know is why the F*** is he fighting Urango then ?

His next fight is Castillo, which is a super fight in its own right. That one is at 140. Urango is a world title fight, a re-adjustment to 140, and should be a barnstorrmer while it lasts, to get the american fans talking.

Intresing! cheers for the info bro i thought that he was just gona stay at 140 and be a nonrisk taker!

Originally Posted by Tam Seddon

Originally Posted by yoitsdan

Originally Posted by Tam Seddon

Originally Posted by yoitsdan

Originally Posted by Tam Seddon

Originally Posted by yoitsdan

IMO What he has is mind is Urango, June 2 againstCastillo in a possible PPV then if he comes through all that, a superfight PPV at 147/154 against Cotto, Mayweather, Mosley or Oscar.

Hatton at 154 ? isnt that bit to far out of his depth? the big names imo are at 147 there is no need for him going that far up. so is this just a thoery or has he acctually said those words ?

He'd face Oscar, Mayweather, Mosley or Cotto regardless of weight class. They are his own words.

Intresting so he doesnt have any needs to stay at 140 then ? what i dont understand know is why the F*** is he fighting Urango then ?

His next fight is Castillo, which is a super fight in its own right. That one is at 140. Urango is a world title fight, a re-adjustment to 140, and should be a barnstorrmer while it lasts, to get the american fans talking.

Intresing! cheers for the info bro i thought that he was just gona stay at 140 and be a nonrisk taker!

Of course, I'm pro-Hatton so someone is going to come along and say that he's gonna be a 140 non-risk taker but at this stage of the game, Hatton and HBO will be cashing in on his style, his rep and his character to match him up against the biggest names, Cotto and Floyd don't have a name like Kostya Tszyu on their resumes' and surely they would want a name like Ricky Hatton's on theirs.

Originally Posted by yoitsdan

Originally Posted by Tam Seddon

Originally Posted by yoitsdan

Originally Posted by Tam Seddon

Originally Posted by yoitsdan

Originally Posted by Tam Seddon

Originally Posted by yoitsdan

IMO What he has is mind is Urango, June 2 againstCastillo in a possible PPV then if he comes through all that, a superfight PPV at 147/154 against Cotto, Mayweather, Mosley or Oscar.

Hatton at 154 ? isnt that bit to far out of his depth? the big names imo are at 147 there is no need for him going that far up. so is this just a thoery or has he acctually said those words ?

He'd face Oscar, Mayweather, Mosley or Cotto regardless of weight class. They are his own words.

Intresting so he doesnt have any needs to stay at 140 then ? what i dont understand know is why the F*** is he fighting Urango then ?

His next fight is Castillo, which is a super fight in its own right. That one is at 140. Urango is a world title fight, a re-adjustment to 140, and should be a barnstorrmer while it lasts, to get the american fans talking.

Intresing! cheers for the info bro i thought that he was just gona stay at 140 and be a nonrisk taker!

Of course, I'm pro-Hatton so someone is going to come along and say that he's gonna be a 140 non-risk taker but at this stage of the game, Hatton and HBO will be cashing in on his style, his rep and his character to match him up against the biggest names, Cotto and Floyd don't have a name like Kostya Tszyu on their resumes' and surely they would want a name like Ricky Hatton's on theirs.

So what if Hatton dont deliver against Urango? what will happen then? I'm scared that something bad may happen yano and it ends up Hatton staying at 140 for a long time.

Originally Posted by Tam Seddon

Originally Posted by yoitsdan

Originally Posted by Tam Seddon

Originally Posted by yoitsdan

Originally Posted by Tam Seddon

Originally Posted by yoitsdan

Originally Posted by Tam Seddon

Originally Posted by yoitsdan

IMO What he has is mind is Urango, June 2 againstCastillo in a possible PPV then if he comes through all that, a superfight PPV at 147/154 against Cotto, Mayweather, Mosley or Oscar.

Hatton at 154 ? isnt that bit to far out of his depth? the big names imo are at 147 there is no need for him going that far up. so is this just a thoery or has he acctually said those words ?

He'd face Oscar, Mayweather, Mosley or Cotto regardless of weight class. They are his own words.

Intresting so he doesnt have any needs to stay at 140 then ? what i dont understand know is why the F*** is he fighting Urango then ?

His next fight is Castillo, which is a super fight in its own right. That one is at 140. Urango is a world title fight, a re-adjustment to 140, and should be a barnstorrmer while it lasts, to get the american fans talking.

Intresing! cheers for the info bro i thought that he was just gona stay at 140 and be a nonrisk taker!

Of course, I'm pro-Hatton so someone is going to come along and say that he's gonna be a 140 non-risk taker but at this stage of the game, Hatton and HBO will be cashing in on his style, his rep and his character to match him up against the biggest names, Cotto and Floyd don't have a name like Kostya Tszyu on their resumes' and surely they would want a name like Ricky Hatton's on theirs.

So what if Hatton dont deliver against Urango? what will happen then? I'm scared that something bad may happen yano and it ends up Hatton staying at 140 for a long time.

If Hatton does lose to Urango then I think thats when Hatton will go to 147, because it will be a sign that the 140 is finally too much low him to make, to be honest I think that severe weight drain is the only way Hatton loses to Urango other than a freak lucky punch, or Urango being 10 times better than we think he it.

Originally Posted by yoitsdan

Originally Posted by Tam Seddon

Originally Posted by yoitsdan

Originally Posted by Tam Seddon

Originally Posted by yoitsdan

Originally Posted by Tam Seddon

Originally Posted by yoitsdan

Originally Posted by Tam Seddon

Originally Posted by yoitsdan

IMO What he has is mind is Urango, June 2 againstCastillo in a possible PPV then if he comes through all that, a superfight PPV at 147/154 against Cotto, Mayweather, Mosley or Oscar.

Hatton at 154 ? isnt that bit to far out of his depth? the big names imo are at 147 there is no need for him going that far up. so is this just a thoery or has he acctually said those words ?

He'd face Oscar, Mayweather, Mosley or Cotto regardless of weight class. They are his own words.

Intresting so he doesnt have any needs to stay at 140 then ? what i dont understand know is why the F*** is he fighting Urango then ?

His next fight is Castillo, which is a super fight in its own right. That one is at 140. Urango is a world title fight, a re-adjustment to 140, and should be a barnstorrmer while it lasts, to get the american fans talking.

Intresing! cheers for the info bro i thought that he was just gona stay at 140 and be a nonrisk taker!

Of course, I'm pro-Hatton so someone is going to come along and say that he's gonna be a 140 non-risk taker but at this stage of the game, Hatton and HBO will be cashing in on his style, his rep and his character to match him up against the biggest names, Cotto and Floyd don't have a name like Kostya Tszyu on their resumes' and surely they would want a name like Ricky Hatton's on theirs.

So what if Hatton dont deliver against Urango? what will happen then? I'm scared that something bad may happen yano and it ends up Hatton staying at 140 for a long time.

If Hatton does lose to Urango then I think thats when Hatton will go to 147, because it will be a sign that the 140 is finally too much low him to make, to be honest I think that severe weight drain is the only way Hatton loses to Urango other than a freak lucky punch, or Urango being 10 times better than we think he it.

Yer from what i've heard i aint heard he is much but i aint seen him fight so i cant judge how good he is. But do you feel that Hatton would go back up to 147 after just having 2 fights at 140? i cant see anybody else coming to chase Hatton at 140 too high risk imo.

CC ive enjoyed the talk so far!

Originally Posted by Tam Seddon

Originally Posted by yoitsdan

Originally Posted by Tam Seddon

Originally Posted by yoitsdan

Originally Posted by Tam Seddon

Originally Posted by yoitsdan

Originally Posted by Tam Seddon

Originally Posted by yoitsdan

Originally Posted by Tam Seddon

Originally Posted by yoitsdan

IMO What he has is mind is Urango, June 2 againstCastillo in a possible PPV then if he comes through all that, a superfight PPV at 147/154 against Cotto, Mayweather, Mosley or Oscar.

Hatton at 154 ? isnt that bit to far out of his depth? the big names imo are at 147 there is no need for him going that far up. so is this just a thoery or has he acctually said those words ?

He'd face Oscar, Mayweather, Mosley or Cotto regardless of weight class. They are his own words.

Intresting so he doesnt have any needs to stay at 140 then ? what i dont understand know is why the F*** is he fighting Urango then ?

His next fight is Castillo, which is a super fight in its own right. That one is at 140. Urango is a world title fight, a re-adjustment to 140, and should be a barnstorrmer while it lasts, to get the american fans talking.

Intresing! cheers for the info bro i thought that he was just gona stay at 140 and be a nonrisk taker!

Of course, I'm pro-Hatton so someone is going to come along and say that he's gonna be a 140 non-risk taker but at this stage of the game, Hatton and HBO will be cashing in on his style, his rep and his character to match him up against the biggest names, Cotto and Floyd don't have a name like Kostya Tszyu on their resumes' and surely they would want a name like Ricky Hatton's on theirs.

So what if Hatton dont deliver against Urango? what will happen then? I'm scared that something bad may happen yano and it ends up Hatton staying at 140 for a long time.

If Hatton does lose to Urango then I think thats when Hatton will go to 147, because it will be a sign that the 140 is finally too much low him to make, to be honest I think that severe weight drain is the only way Hatton loses to Urango other than a freak lucky punch, or Urango being 10 times better than we think he it.

Yer from what i've heard i aint heard he is much but i aint seen him fight so i cant judge how good he is. But do you feel that Hatton would go back up to 147 after just having 2 fights at 140? i cant see anybody else coming to chase Hatton at 140 too high risk imo.

CC ive enjoyed the talk so far!

Its well known in the UK that Junior Witter has been chasing a fight with Hatton for years, but for some reason or another it has never transpired. Witter now has the WBC title, winning it by beating Chop Chop Corley in an absolute stinker when it was vacated by Floyd Mayweather, and is fighting on the same night as Hatton in the UK as part of the Sky Sports PPV broadcast, Junior is famous for being destroyed albeit on two weeks notice by Zab Judah, and has a big mouth. Witter is a switch hitter from the Brendan Ingle camp (Naz's former trainer) and used to be quite a devastating puncher, but now is very safety first and boring to watch, HBO is not intrested in showing a Witter v Hatton fight, 1. Because Witter is an asshole, and 2. the fight would be terrible, with Hatton most likely squeaking out a UD because Witter ran from him the whole time.
Another possible match up at 140 would be the winner of Vivian Harris v Juan Lazcano but both have been exposed at 140/135 and Hatton would be going over old ground, Lazcano and Harris have both pulled out of match ups with Hatton in the past. Lazcano was the reason Hatton was so under prepared against Collazo at 147, because Lazcano pulled out just 7 weeks before the fight with a hand injury, leaving Hatton 2 options, take Collazo at 147 or scrap the HBO date. Hatton chose the former, and it nearly cost him dear. Most fighters take 3 months of preparation to un-naturally step up a weight class, Billy Graham (Hatton's trainer) begged Hatton not to take the fight because he saw something in Collazo and thought it was a bad idea going up a weight class at such short notice, but he still went ahead with it. I think next time Hatton fights at 147 he will be fully prepared. Bear in mind, the four rivals I mentioned who Hatton would step up in weight to fight, Oscar, Mosley, Cotto and Mayweather all began life at lower weight classes, so the size differential would probably not be too much a problem.

IMO, Castillo is the only worthwhile fight for Hatton at 140. I think Castillo is the best guy there (I'm picking him over Hatton unless he looks shot in his upcoming warm-up), and I think there's no question that Hatton beats everyone else in the division (Harris, Corrales, Witter, etc.) and really no point to those fights. I'd love to see Pacquiau work up to 140 to fight Hatton though.

If he gets by Castillo (which for me is a huge "if"--I'd put it at 40%), he should leave 140 for good, take his time to get into 147 with a relatively easy warm-up and plenty of time to adjust to the weight pre-fight, and then go after the big fights there--Cotto, Margarito, Mosely, and maybe Williams and a Collazo rematch. I don't think he'll ever get as big a name as ODH or Mayweather in the ring with him unless he convincingly beats Cotto, Margarito or Mosely (none of which fights I'd pick him to win--though I'd give him a shot against Margarito).

Originally Posted by shza

IMO, Castillo is the only worthwhile fight for Hatton at 140. I think Castillo is the best guy there (I'm picking him over Hatton unless he looks shot in his upcoming warm-up), and I think there's no question that Hatton beats everyone else in the division (Harris, Corrales, Witter, etc.) and really no point to those fights. I'd love to see Pacquiau work up to 140 to fight Hatton though.

If he gets by Castillo (which for me is a huge "if"--I'd put it at 40%), he should leave 140 for good, take his time to get into 147 with a relatively easy warm-up and plenty of time to adjust to the weight pre-fight, and then go after the big fights there--Cotto, Margarito, Mosely, and maybe Williams and a Collazo rematch. I don't think he'll ever get as big a name as ODH or Mayweather in the ring with him unless he convincingly beats Cotto, Margarito or Mosely (none of which fights I'd pick him to win--though I'd give him a shot against Margarito).

Intresting, Margarito is the one i'd give him least of a chance against!

We saw what happened in his last attempt at 147, I think he stays at 140 for a while.

For those sayin he would fight Cotto & Oscar etc at any weight that crazy no way he beats those guys at 147 & up. I think Hatton would struggle with most guys in the top 10 at 147.