Thread: strong lats??

i heard strong lats make stronger punches, is this true?
and what else are are strong lats for?

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Originally Posted by 8-pack

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dont be a fool and train only one part of ur body because u 'heard' it makes u punch harder

Originally Posted by 8-pack

i heard strong lats make stronger punches, is this true?
and what else are are strong lats for?

They make you good at pulling.

In a way can make a stronger punch by preventing a loss of force since a lot of power is lost in the joints (eg. the wrist, elbow, shoulder). I think it can improve efficient transfer of force but it won't make your punches any faster.

It's simple to train without weightlifting equipment, all you need to is a standard chinning bar, assume a wide grip (palms facing forward) and pull yourself up.

Originally Posted by R E L E N T L E S S

dont be a fool and train only one part of ur body because u 'heard' it makes u punch harder

did i ever say i was only going to train one part i think i was asking a question

Originally Posted by Chris N.

In a way can make a stronger punch by preventing a loss of force since a lot of power is lost in the joints (eg. the wrist, elbow, shoulder). I think it can improve efficient transfer of force but it won't make your punches any faster.

It's simple to train without weightlifting equipment, all you need to is a standard chinning bar, assume a wide grip (palms facing forward) and pull yourself up.

Can't get enough of pull ups at the moment.

I like to do them with perfect form... not using my legs, pull right up... slowly lower down to a dead hang and then explode back up.

Difference it makes on the amount of reps/sets you can do is big and range of motion is what you want any way

It's strange how changing the position of your legs can effect the difficulty of the exercise. Here try this: Do a pull-up with your legs bent behind you, easy? Now try it with your legs extended forward about 35 degrees perpendicular to your body.

You'll find a big difference! What this does is by you changing your center of gravity you're also changing the leverage. With your legs extended forward you are taking your leverage away, by bending them backwards you are giving yourself more.

For future reference you can make a lot of exercises much more difficult by reducing the amount of leverage.

As for pullups you can do wide grip (palms forward) to put more emphasis on your back muscles, or do a regular chin-up which stresses more your biceps and shoulders.

I try not to use my momentum on a pull-up because it requires less strength for instance look at how the powerclean movement is performed using the momentum of the legs to get the weight at shoulder level. On the flipside I like to do it at a fast pace without advantage of momentum, and using my center of gravity to make it harder.

You can also keep track of the intensity of the exercise. # of Repetitions over time. Another factor you can throw in is frequency (how many times you perform the set throughout the day) and variation of the exercise.

You should do the harder variation first so that you'll be able perform more repetitions. For example with the pull up you do a set of the wide grip first, then you do the easier regular chin-up.

that's the mistake I've been making... I've been doing the easy under hand grips first... then the harder ones and then switching to over hand and doing the easiest then the hardest.

End up sometimes not getting a full rep on the last couple of sets... I'll try and mix it up.

My mother is a swimmer and I've noticed she has a much stronger back and shoulders than me and probably most guys.

I took up swimming about 3 months ago since I injured myself and had to stop running.

I don't want to drop swimming when I can run again but I don't want to sacrifice too many running sessions either.

Do you think I could trade in some of my weight training for swimming and still get good results?

I am in a swimming club and forced to do a lot of explosive swimming working all the stroke including butterfly.

Some exercises don't take much time at all. You don't have to fall under the mindset that you have to do all your exercises in one session, you can spread it throughout the day.

Swimmers that do some form of strength training become more powerful swimmers. A boxer that swims and does any kind of strength training had a win/win.

I think you can outta keep doing some of weight training but change it so it can fix your new schedule.

Just one sidenote though, a lot of the movement in swimming puts wear-and-tear on your shoulder joint which is already put under stress by the arm motions in boxing. While you shouldn't get you anxious about swimming, you should however be smart about how much you're putting on your plate. I'm telling you this because a good friend of mine did a lot of extra activities which coupled with the intensity of his boxing training grinded his shoulder joints into a permanent hurt.

Besides that keep swimming, keep pumping the iron when you can just take good care #1 while you're at it.

Will do thanks :-)

Do you think prevention of shoulder problems like your friends might be possible with extra rotator cuff strengthening exercises or stretches early after starting new, more strenuous activities?

God I hope so. I thought about before, a good exercise that cover that area is "Reverse Flys." Stretching and proper warmups can help, you should checkout what kind of rehabilitation work is out their for the rotator cuff.

My best advice is to not do too much especially the overhand motion (breast stroke?) that puts stress on the shoulder joint. As for boxing focus on good technique on the punches such as not raising your elbow on your straight punches or just hitting with your shoulder.

It would be hard to kill your shoulder even with lots of swimming, unless you swim hours everyday and have a full boxing regimen on the side.

This is just a precaution to not overtrain.

[EDIT:] Also worth mentioning there's a supplement out there that's supposed to be helpful to the joints. Glucosamine and Chondroiten, my spelling's a little off but its over the counter and is coming down in price now that it's becoming more available. You can get a good price for it at Costco last time I checked.