Thread: I say Pavlik beats Taylor

Taylor seems to look worse and worse with every performance. I don't think he can handle a guy that can knock you out to the body just as easily to the head. Pavlik looks flat footed but he is never off balance. He rolls well with the punches and can use his gloves to deflect alot. I believe he has the bigger heart, the heavier fists, and the better chin.He would be a all around better champion for the fans than Taylor.

Originally Posted by southakron314

Taylor seems to look worse and worse with every performance. I don't think he can handle a guy that can knock you out to the body just as easily to the head. Pavlik looks flat footed but he is never off balance. He rolls well with the punches and can use his gloves to deflect alot. I believe he has the bigger heart, the heavier fists, and the better chin.He would be a all around better champion for the fans than Taylor.

I agree he has great chance but like i've said in other threads im not sure Taylor has the chin to take Pavliks bombs i've never seen Taylor in with a puncher so i can't really say.

Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

Originally Posted by southakron314

Taylor seems to look worse and worse with every performance. I don't think he can handle a guy that can knock you out to the body just as easily to the head. Pavlik looks flat footed but he is never off balance. He rolls well with the punches and can use his gloves to deflect alot. I believe he has the bigger heart, the heavier fists, and the better chin.He would be a all around better champion for the fans than Taylor.

I agree he has great chance but like i've said in other threads im not sure Taylor has the chin to take Pavliks bombs i've never seen Taylor in with a puncher so i can't really say.

True he has never had his chin really checked and if there is anyone in the class that can really hurt him its pavlik.That 77 inch reach is scary.

I say Pavlik beats Taylor too.

As much as I was impressed by Pavlik's total destruction of a solid tough guy in Miranda, I'm still not convinced he'll beat Taylor. I think it will be a hell of a fight, and I think Pavlik will be a tough fight to anyone at either middle or supermiddle. But I believe Jermain will pull it out with his jab and speed.

I'm not ready to bury Jermain for looking bad against Spinks, like Manny Steward said Spinks has a style that can make just about anyone look bad or fight an ugly fight.

Pavlik is very tall fighter.. very big for middleweight it seems ...

Taylor's recent lack of determination factor would not fair well against the aggressive , constant output of Pavlik, I would favor Pavlik at this point, Pavlik has the mindset to win at all cost, Taylor is on auto pilot for whatever reason ?

Originally Posted by Beanflicker

As much as I was impressed by Pavlik's total destruction of a solid tough guy in Miranda, I'm still not convinced he'll beat Taylor. I think it will be a hell of a fight, and I think Pavlik will be a tough fight to anyone at either middle or supermiddle. But I believe Jermain will pull it out with his jab and speed.

I'm not ready to bury Jermain for looking bad against Spinks, like Manny Steward said Spinks has a style that can make just about anyone look bad or fight an ugly fight.

But im wondering what kind of opponent will make him look good because imo he hasn't looked the buisness in his last couple of fights.

What Taylor needs is Pat Burns back in his corner. This is the only way hes gonna come back to his old form. Its obvious that he and manny just dont click come fight time. He needs the familiar voice of Pat Burns to bring him back to what he once was. Regardless of his competition he was a better with 15 fights under his belt than he is now. He once thres an array of punches and was an agressive determined fighter. I dont see the desire he once had.

Originally Posted by Beanflicker

As much as I was impressed by Pavlik's total destruction of a solid tough guy in Miranda, I'm still not convinced he'll beat Taylor. I think it will be a hell of a fight, and I think Pavlik will be a tough fight to anyone at either middle or supermiddle. But I believe Jermain will pull it out with his jab and speed.

I'm not ready to bury Jermain for looking bad against Spinks, like Manny Steward said Spinks has a style that can make just about anyone look bad or fight an ugly fight.

Any body but Zab Judah who knocked him out. I belive in the later middle rounds.

What really have you scene from Taylor lately that makes you think he can win.All I see is a champ who is slipping.

I hope Pavlik beats Taylor too!
And then Pavlik can say I don't wear a suit but I sure as hell come to fight.
A suit does make me a fighter, knocking fools out and or engaging in war makes me a fighter.
He could go on and add the following statement:
If wearing a suit had anything to do with me being a fighter, I would wear a suit in the ring and fight with that suit on.

I think Taylor will win a close decisin, he will frustrate Pavlik and make him come out of his usual style and try to brawl. Pavlik will try and use his reach advantage but Taylor will smother him. The only way i see Pavlik winning is if we discover JT has a glass chin (that is a possibility because he has never been in there with a puncher) but I can't see that happening. Taylor by close UD and then to be K.O'd by Miranda the fight after.

I think Pavlik beats Taylor going on Taylor's last few fights but perhaps Taylor needs a Pavlik fight if he fought someone who were hitting him as hard as Pavlik will perhaps he would turn it on and give us a performance to remember

Its a tough fight to call cuz Taylor seems to rise or drop to the level of his comp and does just enough .

I've just watched Pavlik - Miranda again and full marks to Pavlik for the way he went about it . He had the height and reach to go about it in a safer way but he wanted to do it the hard way and gave us fans all a treat . I wish there were more like . Taylor got twice the money for half the effort in his fight . Should it come off i'll be hoping Pavlik wins and so will ever other fight fan in the world me thinks

Although I believe Pavlik has the tools to beat Taylor, it will not be an easy task to beat the person who beat the executioner twice, close fights, but won both. However, I have the impression that there are some areas that Taylor never got the maturity as a boxer. I see this in his last couple of fights where he had been fighting smaller figthers, still winning, but not as impressive as expected. May be Taylor will be one of those boxers that nobody can beat, but will not have the spark to create big emotions.