Thread: Just saw Cotto - Judah replay. Fight was not that close

At first I thought it was a back and forth contest. But in truth it was an 11 round beat down. Cotto was not even that badly hurt. He was just stunned and rocked but not as badly hurt I thought the first time I saw it.

What do you guys think after seeing it a second time.

Originally Posted by The Rookie Fan

At first I thought it was a back and forth contest. But in truth it was an 11 round beat down. Cotto was not even that badly hurt. He was just stunned and rocked but not as badly hurt I thought the first time I saw it.

What do you guys think after seeing it a second time.

I agreed with Lederman's scorecard. I believe he had it 8 rounds to 2.
Cotto was consistently winning the rounds, although you did always feel like Zab was dangerous, which made it a dramatic fight even if the scorecards weren't close.

Originally Posted by The Rookie Fan

At first I thought it was a back and forth contest. But in truth it was an 11 round beat down. Cotto was not even that badly hurt. He was just stunned and rocked but not as badly hurt I thought the first time I saw it.

What do you guys think after seeing it a second time.

I never thought it was close Judah maybe won 3 rounds at max it was competitive for 5 rounds then after that it was a beatdown.

yeah after the second time..yeah didn't realize that it was actually nthe second round when judah stopped punching..and yeah cotto really really really did a number on him...

Yes i think Cotto kicked the crap out of Zab for most of the fight and it wasnt close at all.
Zabs chin suprised me i must say , i expected him to get KOED quicker.

Originally Posted by The Rookie Fan

At first I thought it was a back and forth contest. But in truth it was an 11 round beat down. Cotto was not even that badly hurt. He was just stunned and rocked but not as badly hurt I thought the first time I saw it.

What do you guys think after seeing it a second time.

I have not seen the fight but i understand entirely where you're coming from !
It's so easy to get caught up in the emotion of the moment but when the dust settles and you have another look you will see a different fight .

2 figths stand out for me !

MaB - Naz
Alan Minter - Hagler

If you'd read the papers or listened to ' boxing experts' you'd see 2 completely different fights .

Watch Naz-MaB with the sound off without the commentators getting caught up in the sheer excitement and with the Pro MaB crowd going wild and tis a massive difference

Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

Yes i think Cotto kicked the crap out of Zab for most of the fight and it wasnt close at all.
Zabs chin suprised me i must say , i expected him to get KOED quicker.

I think the surpricing Heart Zab showed made the difference.

No thwe fight was not close at all....I do give Judah credit he did not self destruct and go off like an idiot EG Mayweather bout....IMO Cotto was just to imposing on Judah even outboxing him at times...Miguel is improving each time out.....

Originally Posted by The Rookie Fan

At first I thought it was a back and forth contest. But in truth it was an 11 round beat down. Cotto was not even that badly hurt. He was just stunned and rocked but not as badly hurt I thought the first time I saw it.

What do you guys think after seeing it a second time.

I only watched the replay and it was not what I was expecting after reading the posts last Saturday and Sunday. For some reason I thought Cotto had gotten rocked and almost knocked down. I know I read that somewhere on the board.

Anyway, Cotto was expressionless. I was intimidated by him just sitting on my sofa watching it. I did feel for Judah getting hit low, but I doubt it changed the course of the fight. His beating at the hands of Cotto seemed inevitable.

Originally Posted by DaxxKahn

No thwe fight was not close at all....I do give Judah credit he did not self destruct and go off like an idiot EG Mayweather bout....IMO Cotto was just to imposing on Judah even outboxing him at times...Miguel is improving each time out.....

Cotto is certainly a very dedicated fighter. You can see adjustments and improvements each time he steps into the ring. He stays busy, fights regularly and he backs up what he says.

Originally Posted by SweetPea

I agreed with Lederman's scorecard. I believe he had it 8 rounds to 2.
Cotto was consistently winning the rounds, although you did always feel like Zab was dangerous, which made it a dramatic fight even if the scorecards weren't close.

yeah thats exactly right.. I rewatched it as well, and obviously didn't see the rounds any differently, it was very clear Judah only won 2 or 3, but I also did feel that Zab rocked Cotto just as badly as I had originally thought in the first round. He definetly had the ability to damage Cotto and was dangerous throughout.. It was even more puzzling this time around, to me at least, as to why he didn't at least try and let his hands go a little more. He also caught Cotto with a peach of a left hand with about 20 seconds left in the 2nd round that wobbled him a little, but didn't try and follow it up. Cotto was always very quick to recover in the 3 instances he was slightly hurt, but I still feel Zab was too gunshy and eliminated his only chance by being tentative.

He didn't let his hands go more because he was afraid of what was coming back AND I think ZAB was trying to conserve energy. I don't think he expected Miguel to be so tough and for his stamina to be so good. I didnt think the fight was all that close at the time and even less so on second viewing.

Originally Posted by p4pking

Originally Posted by SweetPea

I agreed with Lederman's scorecard. I believe he had it 8 rounds to 2.
Cotto was consistently winning the rounds, although you did always feel like Zab was dangerous, which made it a dramatic fight even if the scorecards weren't close.

yeah thats exactly right.. I rewatched it as well, and obviously didn't see the rounds any differently, it was very clear Judah only won 2 or 3, but I also did feel that Zab rocked Cotto just as badly as I had originally thought in the first round. He definetly had the ability to damage Cotto and was dangerous throughout.. It was even more puzzling this time around, to me at least, as to why he didn't at least try and let his hands go a little more. He also caught Cotto with a peach of a left hand with about 20 seconds left in the 2nd round that wobbled him a little, but didn't try and follow it up. Cotto was always very quick to recover in the 3 instances he was slightly hurt, but I still feel Zab was too gunshy and eliminated his only chance by being tentative.

Judah has never thrown alot and he was worried about Cottos power and for good reason and Cotto has been wobbled worse than what Judah done to him aka Corley aka Torres.

Cotto has massive heart....I just hope it doesn't cause him trouble in the future because had Torres gone to the body when Miguel was hurt Cotto could have been destroyed in that fight and his career ended....in all seriousness. Because had Cotto took repeated FLUSH shots from Torres he'd have been in a world of shit!

After the 2nd round I dont think Judah was thinking too about winning. I think It was more a matter of what can i do to look good against this guy who is too much for me and what can i do to keep this guy off me enough to get a break. He was in way over his head and drowning from round 3 and on.