AND IS THERE ANY SOUTH PAW USERS
AND IS THERE ANY SOUTH PAW USERS
Lol.. Youve been playing too much Fight night! :P
But i will list a few..I dont know about ten..
1: James Toney
No Frazier??Originally Posted by Tito_BHB
I never really condidered him to use the 'philly shell' in that way tbh..Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
Lol..Right it stops here..No more philly shell.. Its Shoulder roll!! :P SHOULDER ROLL!
Lol.. I suppose in a way you could consider that but i never really have and i wouldnt say he was quite prominant with his defense as the rest or that his was really the best.. I mEAN
The Mummy Foreman smashed him :P
Hell brah,who do you think taught it to B-hop?
Lol..Whenever someone says brah i always think of dog the bounty hunterOriginally Posted by Trainer Monkey
If you guys had the same hair you might be lookalikes too!
Lol..I forget his name ..I believe it was loui something.. But he worked on alot of the foundations of Bhop in Philly penetentiary..
Sorry for the spelling..You see in england..We call it prison :P
Did Kenny Norton use the philly shell or a form of it ?
Naw that guy taught him just enough to lose his first fightOriginally Posted by Tito_BHB
After that he was trained by Fraziers
In Fact i believe his name was Bouie..LolOriginally Posted by Trainer Monkey
Nahh man i cant believe that yo.. On Bhops behind the glory he gives so much credit to that dude..
Trust me son,I know the GymOriginally Posted by Tito_BHB
Joe worked with him specifically
Yo man thats a bit dispespectfulOriginally Posted by Trainer Monkey
I never said joe didnt work with him and i never said you didnt know gym
I said his original trainer probably deserves more props then you give him and that you may have a harsh view on the matter, thats all
And he gets them,hey training people to box in the pen,must be some scary stuff,good for him for doing itOriginally Posted by Tito_BHB
But if youve ever seen early Bhop,its really obvious he's a Fraziers product
Every little thing they train there,is there to see
Philly shell defense has to be MAyweather. Shoulder roll would be James TOney, but even in his prime he got hit more than Mayweather, and he wasn't as quick to counter. Mayweather is a better fighter than Toney(though toney is way up there for my p4p of the last two decades) and he is better defensively.Originally Posted by Tito_BHB
The first time I ever saw it and the best exponent of it was Burley. When he went into it you couldnt hit him with a handfull of rice
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I considered what Frazier and Norton did to be that "cross armed" defense (I believe Archie Moore used it and refered to it as the "crab defense", which he taught Foreman later in his career), not the "Philly Shell". They used the left arm to defend the body and the right arm crossed over to protect the head. I thought the philly shell had the left arm to protect the body, the right hand up to pick off left hooks and the rolled shoulder to protect the chin?
Either way, I agree with Tito in that I think James Toney used it more effectively than anyone I've ever seen, including the old timers like Jersey Joe.
Anyway whether I'm right or wrong about that stuff, my top 3 is...
1. James Toney
2. Niccolino Locche
3. Floyd Mayweather jr
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