Thread: Were the judges smoking crack?

Taylor was far ahead on all three official cards by scores of 58-55, 59-54, 58-55. This is out of whack to me.

I agree, that's crazy. Oddly, Dan Rafael had Taylor winning every round and up 60-53. In his write up of the fight on ESPN.com he says Taylor was "dominant thorugh six rounds." I like Dan, but I have no idea what he was watching to conclude Taylor was dominating. Maybe it looked different live. To be fair, sometimes you can see two totally different fights live versus on the tube.

Lou DiBully money.

I can not believe Lou had all three of these judges in his pocket.

Piss on you Lou!

I score the fight just like the unoffocial scoring of Lederman excluding the knockdown the fight was close. The judges scoring is definitely jacked-up, thank's to up above Pav knocked out Taylor.

this is very strange.

jeah those scores were jackshit. Lederman usually scores a fight better than the ringside judges and he had it as one hell of a close fight at 57-56, and it seems that most fans did too. How someone could have that fight as 60-53 is beyond me, or 59-54, I mean they pretty much landed at the same connect rate, and pavlik was throwing a bit more leather. As most people are suggestin lou has a crapload of money to throw around it seems.

I had Pavlik up 57-56, could of easily been 57-56 for Taylor. But these other scores are just horrible. I honestly believe these judges aren't corrupt, just complete idiots. We need to get some new judges because the ones we have now completely suck.

My mate who was watching had Taylor up by one round.

I had Taylor winning 58 - 55 until he got Koed. Here's how I scored the rounds:
#1: 10 - 9 Taylor
#2: 10 - 8 Taylor
#3: 10 - 9 Pavlik
#4: 10 - 9 Pavlik
#5: 10 - 9 Taylor
#6: 10 - 9 Taylor

First, I'm not a Taylor or Pavlik fan so it was completely unbiased scoring. I felt Taylor was boxing nicely and eventhough he was cornered he was fighting out of it nicely. I think what many of you were scoring is the fact that Pavlik was charging in and throwing hard shots BUT so was Taylor. Let's not forget about Taylor's accuracy. No way in hell did he fight like he did against Spinks. Taylor's combinations looked good but in the end, his lack of finishing off a hurt opponent killed him. Would a Mosley, Hopkins, Trinidad, De La Hoya, Mike Tyson not have been able to finish off Pavlik in the 2nd round? Taylor needs to finish off his opponents like great fighters do! He got caught with a powerful punch and he got KOed.
My respect to both fighters...GREAT performance. Taylor is no pussy...I think they should fight again ASAP.

i'm pretty sure their is a good reason to their judge,i disagree with the judges all the time
thats y i think the judges may have like a rule or like some kind of guideline that tells them who wins a round or not
so when theres a close round, they may side with the fighter who made the harding contact, which i believe that it was taylor

just think of it this way when tayor fought spinks
spinks had threw like50 punches to taylors 10, spinks landed about half of his punches with jab, and lil combination
taylor landed like 3 punches which looked hard and taylor won the round. i thought that was ridiculous because spinks dominated the round but w.e

iono these are random thoughts it probably doesnt make sense...lol

Originally Posted by sexydarin

Taylor was far ahead on all three official cards by scores of 58-55, 59-54, 58-55. This is out of whack to me.

thats why you need determination factor as a fighter seek and destroy , you can't let a match get to the that final bell.. its a fukin dice roll then.

If one judge out of the 3 had it 58-55 or 59-54 Taylor, that wouldn't be that weird, since there's always a chance one judge sees it differently from the others.

For all 3 of them to have it for Taylor by significant margins is what's weird.

I had it 57-56 Pavlik. I'll have to watch it again tomorrow.

although the fight ended fairly, that scoring needs to be looked at...

I really enjoyed the watch .. Taylor and Pavlik showed high determination factor, they exhibited nice variety of skill set .. both men did themselves proud. both men went into deep water , only one reached the shore.

Again, I don't see the big deal...I had Taylor winning all but 2 rounds I think. Boxing the socks off of Pavlik. These scores are nowhere near bad IMO
Look at the criteria for scoring and I think more of you will understand. Ring Generalship, Defence, Clean shots and effective aggresion.
Defence (making Pavlik miss and look slow) and Clean Shots was definitely Taylor..Ring generalship I would also have given to Taylor in most rounds..he had Pavlik following him when he wanted and he was backing him up when he wanted to. Effective aggresion..I think Pavlik maybe had the edge in this one..he could sometimes neutralize Taylors speed with his work rate.
British guest judge also had it something like 58-55 to Taylor going into 7