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    Default Should nIGEL Benn be in the Hall?

    When you think of Nigel Benn, you think of words like fury, rage, and ferocity. These were his trademarks in the ring and provided uncommon excitement and entertainment. Unfortunately, his career defining fight ended with tragic results and detracts from his entire body of work.

    Record: 42 - 5 - 1 with 35 ko's (three of his defeats came at the end of his career). As an amateur, he had a fine record of 41 wins and 1 loss. His pro ko percentage was an excellent 83%.

    Style: He was a ballsy and brash bomber and is still considered to be one of the hardest punchers of all time, but when he fought at the top level, he sometimes and inexplicably became somewhat unglued. Still, his ferocity and velocity were unmatched and were launched with evil intentions, the purest of rage, and often punctuated with a whirlwind of deadly hooks and uppercuts from all angles. With Nigel, the thing was his excitement and unpredictability. You knew what to expect...or maybe you didn’t.... which made him so exciting. He would come out bombing and winging and try to ko his opponents in short order usually knocking them out, but his "take no prisoner" strategy sometimes meant that he himself would be stopped. Some even called him one of boxing’s bad boys, and labeled his style as downright dirty. I'll refer to it as “win at all cost."


    Quality of Opposition: Excellent. Aside from the hapless Winston Burnett (who would finish with 20-98-3), Benn fought boxers with mostly decent records in his early years, a departure from the norm. Guys like Reggie Miller, Abdul Umaru Sanda, Darren Hobson, Nicky Piper, Jamaican Anthony Logan, Kid Milo, Canadian Dan Sherry, Puerto Rican Jose Quinones, American Sanderline Williams, Congolese Mbayo Wa Mbayo, David Noel, and Argentinean Hector Lescano all came in with winning records.

    He then stepped up to a higher level to fight South African Thulani Malinga (twice), Italian and former WBC Super Middleweight champion Mauro Galvano (twice), former world champion Chris Eubank (twice), Juan Carlos Gimenez Ferreyra (46-6-3 coming in), future world champ and victor over "Sugar Boy" Mailnga (40-9 at the time), Vincenzo Nardiello (26-3), tough Michael Watson (21-1-1 coming in) and, of course. world champion Steve Collins (twice). While the names here might not resonate as much with an average American boxing fan as they do with one in Europe or the UK, they should strike a intimate chord with all serious boxing fans regardless of location. These fighters, along with Herol Graham and Robin Reid, represented the cream of the crop during a great era of fighters in the UK. But Benn also fought two top Americans in Iran "The Blade" Barkley (a warrior who fought in a savage manner not unlike Benn's) and the great Gerald McCllelan and beat them both by stoppage. O course, he beat Dough Dewitt as well. In short, Benn was competitive with the world's best.

    Chronology: A four-year tenure as a soldier in the Royal Fusiliers, which he credits as the turning point in his life, forced him to embrace a need for self discipline. Benn turned professional in 1987 and began a remarkable streak of 22 consecutive ko wins (100% ko percentage). The streak extended until 1989 during which time he beat tough Fernin Cherino, and then won the British commonwealth Middleweight title with a win over Abdul Umaru. But he lost this title to the very tough Michael Watson by a 6th round knockout and with it, his undefeated record as well.

    His next fight with limited Jorge Amparo was his first abroad. After two more wins, he got his initial opportunity at a world championship and made the most of it. He duked it out for the WBO World Middleweight champion with Doug Dewitt. Benn captured the crown by knocking out the resilient and granite-chin DeWitt (who had lasted 12 rounds against Thomas Hearns) in the 8th round. His first defense came against former world champion Iran "The Blade" Barkley and after being badly rocked himself, he knocked out Barkley in round one in a furious and savage shoot-out which was Benn's trademark. Eventually, however, he lost the world title when he was stopped in 1990 by the flamboyant Chris Eubank.
    in round nine of a very close battle in Birmingham.

    In 1991, he ko'd the vastly underrated Robbie Sims and half-brother of Marvin Hagler. Sims had beaten Roberto Duran and many other top level fighters like Tony Chiaverini, Doug Dewitt, and John Collins. Reflective of Benn's power, that loss would be Robbie's only career stoppage defeat. He then embarked on another undefeated streak, this time reaching fifteen. After beating his future conqueror and world champion "Sugar Boy" Malinga by a 10 round decision, he won the WBC's world Super Middleweight title with a knockout in round four over defending world champion Mauro Galvano. After two more wins, he fought a rematch in 1993 with Eubank and retained his title with a twelve round draw before 42,000 fans in Manchester. Next came tough Henry Wharton (undefeated coming in) and Juan Carlos Gimenez, both of whom he beat by decision.

    I am not going to dwell on Benn's next fight (with the great bomber Gerald McClellan), for it has already received voluminous treatment, but I will not ignore it either and in this regard I quote Ian McNeilly who poignantly said, "The fight was one of the best and worst to ever take place. A triumphant and tragic microcosm of boxing." Clearly, it would change Nigel's life forever:....according to his trainer, the tragic results of that fight took away Nigel's fighting spirit.


    The "Destroyer" would go on to beat future world champion Vincenzo Niardiello and game Danny Perez before losing to "Sugar Boy" Malinga the second time around by a 12 round decision. In so doing, he also would lose his WBC world title. Then, he was given a another chance at a world title.....this time the WBO's world title, but he lost to Steve Collins by 4th round knockout in Manchester (a fight in which controversy arose as to an injury to Benn's ankle)....and after losing the rematch, it was clear Nigel had come to the end of his glorious career. As writer Jack Dunne once said, ".....he lost to Steve Collins, twice by way of TKO, guess what? It was just Nigel's time, NOBODY fights forever. Father Time is STILL the undefeated, undisputed champion of the fight game, all times, all divisions."

    Some say Nigel Benn is mostly a "forgotten warrior" perhaps because he will forever be linked to Gerald McClellan and it is admittedly painful to think of him without remembering their tragic fight. But if so, that is manifestly unfair. Any assesment of Benn must be based on his entertaining style and accomplishments in the ring. Again, to quote McNeilly, "...the many who watched saw a man [Benn] reach down into his inner being and summon something to destroy a force [McClellan] supposedly greater than himself [Gerald was a 4-1 favorite]. And as we looked on, amazed and enthralled, we cheered as life slipped away from a fellow man slumped, defeated, in his corner."

    Whether he gets into the International Boxing Hall of Fame remains to be seen, but if he fails, it will not be because of his lack of providing incredible excitement and indelible memories for boxing fans throughout the world. Nigel Benn was an eccentric, a one of a kind and will not soon be forgotten by boxing aficionados.

    I cannot help but feel Nigel Benn chances for the Hall are pretty darn good. After all, he was a two-time world champion who fought the best of UK competition at a time when that competition was keen and perhaps the best in the world, he beat two great American fighters, he always gave the crowd its money worth, and he finished with a great ko percentage.

    As for those who say, "if you have to wonder about it, then he doesn’t belong," I say poppycock.....because I'll show you any number of fighters in the Hall where I have to "wonder about it."


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    Default Re: Should nIGEL Benn be in the Hall?

    I say yes.
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    Default Re: Should nIGEL Benn be in the Hall?

    poppycock? Why don't you tell us what you really feel.
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    Default Re: Should nIGEL Benn be in the Hall?

    Nigel wasnt a GREAT fighter , but was a warrior , im not sure of the standards these days of the "HALL" , but i would say hes left knocking at the door.

    thanks for the memories Nigel

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    Default Re: Should nIGEL Benn be in the Hall?

    Yes. He should.
    "You knocked him down...now how bout you try knockin me down ?"

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    Default Re: Should nIGEL Benn be in the Hall?

    I am not the biggest Benn fan. I was a Eubank man you see! But yes I think he does deserve it.

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    Default Re: Should nIGEL Benn be in the Hall?

    What a great post!!!

    Benn is probably my favourite fighter of all time, but I still think he is a bit overrated by some people. He was a warrior but had lots of floors. Some say he was best under Jimmy Tibbs when he adopted more of a measured approach and learned to jab, but his best win was against G Man (after Tibbs) I think he would've lost to Toney, Nunn, & McCallum

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    Default Re: Should nIGEL Benn be in the Hall?

    Benn is a sticker for the Hall.

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    Default Re: Should nIGEL Benn be in the Hall?

    Quote Originally Posted by BIG H View Post
    What a great post!!!

    Benn is probably my favourite fighter of all time, but I still think he is a bit overrated by some people. He was a warrior but had lots of floors. Some say he was best under Jimmy Tibbs when he adopted more of a measured approach and learned to jab, but his best win was against G Man (after Tibbs) I think he would've lost to Toney, Nunn, & McCallum
    My thoughts exactly except for Nunn, could have maybe had him,
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    Quote Originally Posted by BIG H View Post
    What a great post!!!

    Benn is probably my favourite fighter of all time, but I still think he is a bit overrated by some people. He was a warrior but had lots of floors. Some say he was best under Jimmy Tibbs when he adopted more of a measured approach and learned to jab, but his best win was against G Man (after Tibbs) I think he would've lost to Toney, Nunn, & McCallum

    Its a shame Benn, Nunn, Toney, Eubank and McCallum never really had any kind of series. That being said i think Toney and Eubank were the best oif the bunch. Mike was starting to age and was real small compared to those guys.

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    Default Re: Should nIGEL Benn be in the Hall?

    I'd say definitely, for excitement and bein so tenacious in the ring

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    Default Re: Should nIGEL Benn be in the Hall?

    Quote Originally Posted by boozeboxer View Post
    poppycock? Why don't you tell us what you really feel.

    Hahahahahah. I wondered if anyone would pick up on that!

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    Default Re: Should nIGEL Benn be in the Hall?

    Quote Originally Posted by BIG H View Post
    What a great post!!!

    Benn is probably my favourite fighter of all time, but I still think he is a bit overrated by some people. He was a warrior but had lots of floors. Some say he was best under Jimmy Tibbs when he adopted more of a measured approach and learned to jab, but his best win was against G Man (after Tibbs) I think he would've lost to Toney, Nunn, & McCallum

    Thanks, mate!

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    Default Re: Should nIGEL Benn be in the Hall?

    No disrespect to Max, but if Schmeling is in then Benn could be as well.
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