Thread: Mismatch that is ODH v Manny Pac

I do not know if this has been done before

But how the hell in Manny going to ever beat ODH?

Some respected commentators believe Manny will win, but he is just far too small and Oscar is only hyping the fight because he knows he will walk through Pac man and look good against a great but blown up flyweight.

WTF!!!!

Originally Posted by Master

I do not know if this has been done before

But how the hell in Manny going to ever beat ODH?

Some respected commentators believe Manny will win, but he is just far too small and Oscar is only hyping the fight because he knows he will walk through Pac man and look good against a great but blown up flyweight.

WTF!!!!

(LOL)

Yeah... it's been done a "few" times before. But you're still 100% correct in your assertions.

Here are the facts

Manny and Oscar are doing it for the money first and foremost.

Oscar wants to beat the P4P best and retire and go out with a bang.

If Manny wins however, it would be a truly great victory. If he loses, he lost to a much bigger modern great, so no shame in losing.

If Oscar loses he will look a bit stupid.

When I first heard about the fight, I felt the same way. Now, the more I think about it, I think Pac is going to win. Oscar is old, on the decline, has stamina issues, and he hasn't had to make 147 in years. The weight alone is going to be a huge factor, and when I considering everything else in Pac's favor (speed, youth, stamina, everything except power) I see Pac beating Oscar.

from what i heard on fightnews.com oscar isnt retireing. and manny is gonna win.

When the fight was announced/signed, Hoya was at -250 and PAC at +200. Now the odds were something like Hoya at -200 while PAC at +150.

I think the odds will become closer as the fight comes nearer.

News like PAC knocking down his 5' 11" middleweight sparring partners will even up the odds or turn to PAC's favor...

This will be a nice 3 round send off for DLH!

Originally Posted by CFH

When I first heard about the fight, I felt the same way. Now, the more I think about it, I think Pac is going to win. Oscar is old, on the decline, has stamina issues, and he hasn't had to make 147 in years. The weight alone is going to be a huge factor, and when I considering everything else in Pac's favor (speed, youth, stamina, everything except power) I see Pac beating Oscar.

This is why it's a meaningless fight, If ODLH wins, it's because he is so much bigger. If PAC wins it's because ODLH is too far past it.

Translation: POINTLESS

I understand people getting into the hype saying this is a mega fight, but it's not, it's a mega event that is completely pointless in the scheme of things for boxing. I know Saddoboxer, brings up this fight regardless of thread topic, and he has made it clear he is stoked, but for me, it WILL be on the sports book, but I WON'T be watching.

I personally hope that ODLH flattens PAC within 3 rounds so everyone can see how pointless this fight is.

Originally Posted by killersheep

Originally Posted by CFH

When I first heard about the fight, I felt the same way. Now, the more I think about it, I think Pac is going to win. Oscar is old, on the decline, has stamina issues, and he hasn't had to make 147 in years. The weight alone is going to be a huge factor, and when I considering everything else in Pac's favor (speed, youth, stamina, everything except power) I see Pac beating Oscar.

This is why it's a meaningless fight, If ODLH wins, it's because he is so much bigger. If PAC wins it's because ODLH is too far past it.

Translation: POINTLESS

I understand people getting into the hype saying this is a mega fight, but it's not, it's a mega event that is completely pointless in the scheme of things for boxing. I know Saddoboxer, brings up this fight regardless of thread topic, and he has made it clear he is stoked, but for me, it WILL be on the sports book, but I WON'T be watching.

I personally hope that ODLH flattens PAC within 3 rounds so everyone can see how pointless this fight is.

Very well put, KS. I especially agree on how the fight's pointless in boxing's scheme of things. However, we hope for different outcomes, and here's how I would reword the last sentence more to my liking:

I personally hope that Manny flattens Oscar, embarassing him for taking on the much smaller man, and not someone like Margarito or Cotto, in his own weight division.

Originally Posted by killersheep

Originally Posted by CFH

When I first heard about the fight, I felt the same way. Now, the more I think about it, I think Pac is going to win. Oscar is old, on the decline, has stamina issues, and he hasn't had to make 147 in years. The weight alone is going to be a huge factor, and when I considering everything else in Pac's favor (speed, youth, stamina, everything except power) I see Pac beating Oscar.

This is why it's a meaningless fight, If ODLH wins, it's because he is so much bigger. If PAC wins it's because ODLH is too far past it.

Translation: POINTLESS

I understand people getting into the hype saying this is a mega fight, but it's not, it's a mega event that is completely pointless in the scheme of things for boxing. I know Saddoboxer, brings up this fight regardless of thread topic, and he has made it clear he is stoked, but for me, it WILL be on the sports book, but I WON'T be watching.

I personally hope that ODLH flattens PAC within 3 rounds so everyone can see how pointless this fight is.

I hope that happens so I can revel in the sweet tears of the Pac fans.

I'm hoping that PAC can defeat Hoya in a more convincing way (a UD will do) than what PBF did to Hoya... so that PAC can call PBF out of retirement... So there you go, the meaning of this Hoya-PAC fight...
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Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

I'm hoping that PAC can defeat Hoya in a more convincing way (a UD will do) than what PBF did to Hoya... so that PAC can call PBF out of retirement... So there you go, the meaning of this Hoya-PAC fight...
.

So you are saying beating a fighter who should be retired in order to get a fight with someone that is retired has meaning? You are more delusional than I thought.

Originally Posted by killersheep

Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

I'm hoping that PAC can defeat Hoya in a more convincing way (a UD will do) than what PBF did to Hoya... so that PAC can call PBF out of retirement... So there you go, the meaning of this Hoya-PAC fight...
.

So you are saying beating a fighter who should be retired in order to get a fight with someone that is retired has meaning? You are more delusional than I thought.

So you mean, you're not interested to see a PBF-PAC fight IF (BIG IF) PAC beats Hoya more convincingly than what PBF did to Hoya?

The fight between the present no. 1 P4P against the one before him is I guess a very meaningful and interesting fight...

Of course we all know that PBF is not yet in that retireable stage... He's still very prime...
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Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

Originally Posted by killersheep

Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

I'm hoping that PAC can defeat Hoya in a more convincing way (a UD will do) than what PBF did to Hoya... so that PAC can call PBF out of retirement... So there you go, the meaning of this Hoya-PAC fight...
.

So you are saying beating a fighter who should be retired in order to get a fight with someone that is retired has meaning? You are more delusional than I thought.

So you mean, you're not interested to see a PBF-PAC fight IF (BIG IF) PAC beats Hoya more convincingly than what PBF did to Hoya?

The fight between the present no. 1 P4P against the one before him is I guess a very meaningful fight...
.

Floyd's retired.

Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

I'm hoping that PAC can defeat Hoya in a more convincing way (a UD will do) than what PBF did to Hoya... so that PAC can call PBF out of retirement... So there you go, the meaning of this Hoya-PAC fight...
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This fight was made because De La Hoya is way past it and has diminished skills. Mayweather is still in tip-top form. This was what I was afraid of. If Pac somehow wins this fight, then a Mayweather vs Pacquiao fight would happen and I KNOW Pac can't beat Floyd.

Pac really needs to go back to lightweight and fight Marquez. This is the fight everyone wants. Then maybe go back to Hatton and call it a career.

BTW! Oscar already stated this isn't his last fight. His new quote is "I think I have 2 to 3 fights left in me." I forgot which location it was but he stated this in one the media press tour stops.