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    Default Calzaghe: "pavlik Was Overrated, Overhyped And Hadn't Done Anything In His Career"

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    Anyone have their 2 cents on this?
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    Default Re: Calzaghe: "pavlik Was Overrated, Overhyped And Hadn't Done Anything In His Career

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    Anyone have their 2 cents on this?
    He wasn't overrated i don't think anyone went over the top regarding his skills and etc, we all knew he was a powerful puncher although not a 1 hit ko artist.

    We all knew he could be hurt and comeback, we know he could outbox a good boxer in Jermain Taylor etc. I just think he was overhyped by his fans and the media.

    The media are always looking for a great white hope, and Kelly Pavlik is a nice guy with an exciting style. So it was hard not to like him or respect him, and it was hard for the media to not get high on Kelly Pavlik aswell as us boxing fans.

    As for not doing anything in his career i think thats BS aswell. He beat good contenders in Fulgencio Zungia, Jose Luis Zertche, aswell as Edison Miranda who was one the most feared fighters in the world at that time. Then beating the man who beat Bernard Hopkins x2.

    I'll keep rooting for Kelly Pavlik he is genuine nice guy, with an exciting style i wish him well for the future.

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    Default Re: Calzaghe: "pavlik Was Overrated, Overhyped And Hadn't Done Anything In His Career

    calzaghe is a prik, it dodged so many fighters its unreal. he wants to be undefeated like marciano. but every one knows the main reason rocky was undefeated was because he was with the mob and they influenced fights. mayweather is the only real undefeated genius. joe can fight and hes a great boxer but come on, who would you want to be if you were a superstar boxer..floyd, roy and bernard are the G.O.A.TS

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    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    calzaghe is a prik, it dodged so many fighters its unreal. he wants to be undefeated like marciano. but every one knows the main reason rocky was undefeated was because he was with the mob and they influenced fights. mayweather is the only real undefeated genius. joe can fight and hes a great boxer but come on, who would you want to be if you were a superstar boxer..floyd, roy and bernard are the G.O.A.TS
    Who has Joe Calzaghe ducked ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    calzaghe is a prik, it dodged so many fighters its unreal. he wants to be undefeated like marciano. but every one knows the main reason rocky was undefeated was because he was with the mob and they influenced fights. mayweather is the only real undefeated genius. joe can fight and hes a great boxer but come on, who would you want to be if you were a superstar boxer..floyd, roy and bernard are the G.O.A.TS
    Who has Joe Calzaghe ducked ?
    Glen Johnson
    Carl Froch

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    calzaghe is a prik, it dodged so many fighters its unreal. he wants to be undefeated like marciano. but every one knows the main reason rocky was undefeated was because he was with the mob and they influenced fights. mayweather is the only real undefeated genius. joe can fight and hes a great boxer but come on, who would you want to be if you were a superstar boxer..floyd, roy and bernard are the G.O.A.TS
    Who has Joe Calzaghe ducked ?
    Only name I can think of is Glen Johnson.

    In terms of who Calzaghe's ducked it was people at Light Heavyweight only I'm guessing since there were no real super middleweight threats(at least in their prime) when Calzaghe was down there ruling.

    The biggest names on his list are Lacy(who by now doesn't seem like a big win but hindsight is always 20-20) a debated victory against Hopkins and against a faded Chris Eubank.

    Now people take credit away from Leonard for his questionable win against Hagler. But when it comes to Calzaghe people seem to give him a little more rope and I think a lot of hate stems from the double standards boxing fans like to use. But hey its boxing and its fans no one is ever consistant 100 percent with fighters they like and dislike, its just human nature.
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    Default Re: Calzaghe: "pavlik Was Overrated, Overhyped And Hadn't Done Anything In His Career

    I don't think Pavlik is overrated. What people say about him is true. He is a 1-2 puncher, he has good comeback ability, he doesn't quit, and he has power in his shots.

    Overhyped, maybe, but Pavlik is a champion and is still young so his career is far from over.

    Hopkins fought a perfect fight and had the perfect game plan and experience to have the performace against Pavlik he had.

    Kelly is still young and definitely will learn from this experience. Hopkins, Pacquiao, De La Hoya, Mosley, etc all have losses in their record but are still great fighters. Pavlik still has time...

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    Default Re: Calzaghe: "pavlik Was Overrated, Overhyped And Hadn't Done Anything In His Career

    Quote Originally Posted by leftylee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    calzaghe is a prik, it dodged so many fighters its unreal. he wants to be undefeated like marciano. but every one knows the main reason rocky was undefeated was because he was with the mob and they influenced fights. mayweather is the only real undefeated genius. joe can fight and hes a great boxer but come on, who would you want to be if you were a superstar boxer..floyd, roy and bernard are the G.O.A.TS
    Who has Joe Calzaghe ducked ?
    Glen Johnson
    Carl Froch


    LOL.

    He was due to fight Johnson after he fought Shieka, Shieka won so Joe battered him in 3rds.

    As for Froch you are kidding!! the guy is due to have his biggest fight against Jean Pascal.

    Do one mate.

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    Default Re: Calzaghe: "pavlik Was Overrated, Overhyped And Hadn't Done Anything In His Career

    Calzaghe calling another fighter overrated?! Now that's funny...coming from one of the MOST overrated fighters in history. If he only was fighting a prime Roy Jones...he would be exposed for the over hyped fighter he is.

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    Default Re: Calzaghe: "pavlik Was Overrated, Overhyped And Hadn't Done Anything In His Career

    According to Frank warren he has pulled out of about 10 fights he lined up for him warren wouldn't say it if it weren't true being they are in a legal battle he wouldn't want Calzaghe doing him over lies.

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    Default Re: Calzaghe: "pavlik Was Overrated, Overhyped And Hadn't Done Anything In His Career

    Everyone that looses when favored is not overrated, very very few thought the fight would go the way it did. Joe himself was probably on of the most relived people on the planet saturday night, b-hop took the chance he wasn't willing to. He should be careful what he says....he himself is less than a month away from possibly having all this discussion being how overrated he is.....he's talking like beating roy is already in the bag, i can only imagine this place if he looses.
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    Default Re: Calzaghe: "pavlik Was Overrated, Overhyped And Hadn't Done Anything In His Career

    Saying Calzaghe DUCKED Johnson is just silly.

    He pulled out injured. Which turned out to be the BEST thing that EVER happened to Johnson. He wouldn't have made his name by sparking out Roy.. and subsequently beating Tarver.

    They were being lined up to meet AGAIN around 2006.. But Clinton Woods beat Johnson scuppering it.
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    Default Re: Calzaghe: "pavlik Was Overrated, Overhyped And Hadn't Done Anything In His Career

    Quote Originally Posted by Markusdarkus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by leftylee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post

    Who has Joe Calzaghe ducked ?
    Glen Johnson
    Carl Froch


    LOL.

    He was due to fight Johnson after he fought Shieka, Shieka won so Joe battered him in 3rds.

    As for Froch you are kidding!! the guy is due to have his biggest fight against Jean Pascal.

    Do one mate.
    Froch has been calling Calzaghe out for years. Yet Calzaghe avoids him for the great Contender bum Peter Manfredo Jr As for Johnson he's ducked him like 3 times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Saying Calzaghe DUCKED Johnson is just silly.

    He pulled out injured. Which turned out to be the BEST thing that EVER happened to Johnson. He wouldn't have made his name by sparking out Roy.. and subsequently beating Tarver.

    They were being lined up to meet AGAIN around 2006.. But Clinton Woods beat Johnson scuppering it.
    One question Fenster im sure i remember that the winner of the 3rd Clinton Woods vs Glen Johnson fight. Was supposed get a shot against Joe Calzaghe, why did that not happen ?

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    Default Re: Calzaghe: "pavlik Was Overrated, Overhyped And Hadn't Done Anything In His Career

    Pavlik was overhyped by his fans.

    I'm glad Hopkins took him to school. That took his fans back to reality.

    I do hope the best for Pavlik in the furture though, He is a good guy and has a exciting style.

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