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    Default Ring Magazine Heavyweight Champion

    So, I was just looking at The Ring ratings, and, of course, there is no Heavyweight Champion.

    Wladimar is #1 and Vitali is #2.

    Now those two are never going to fight each other so there can't be a championship match there but it says that in certain cases (and this would sure seem to be one) when #1 can fight #3 which is Chagaev and he's in "recess" so I guess my question is...

    When will the ever be a Ring Heavyweight Champion, and if you must does it really matter?
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    Well I think Wladimir has to be THE MAN in the division as he has held his title for the longest AND he has 2 titles where as Vitali and whoever the WBA champ is (Valuev or Chagaev) only have one.

    I expect Wladimir will be THE unified heavyweight champion once Vitali wins the WBA belt and then retires.

    Wladimir is only 32 so he could just now be hitting his prime so we can expect another 5-8 years of him being the champion bar another experience like he had with Sanders.

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    Default Re: Ring Magazine Heavyweight Champion

    #1 and # can fill a vacancy only when there very little difference between #2 and #3. I dont think that is the case here. There is a huge drop off in quality from Vitali to Chagaev.

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    Default Re: Ring Magazine Heavyweight Champion

    I don't think Wladimir will last another 5-8 years, he could physically, but I wouldn't be surprised if these two retire into the sunset together keeping in mind that incest in best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    I don't think Wladimir will last another 5-8 years, he could physically, but I wouldn't be surprised if these two retire into the sunset together keeping in mind that incest in best.
    Who is there out there?

    There aren't any dynamic fighters after The Klitschko's in the heavyweight division

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    I don't think Wladimir will last another 5-8 years, he could physically, but I wouldn't be surprised if these two retire into the sunset together keeping in mind that incest in best.
    Who is there out there?

    There aren't any dynamic fighters after The Klitschko's in the heavyweight division
    A certain Mr Haye would have something to say about that.

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    Default Re: Ring Magazine Heavyweight Champion

    Yeah and thats a certain Mr Hayes problem, saying things rather than doing them.

    Vitali came back after 4 years and beat a top heavy champ, Haye is moving up to heavy after proclaiming he can beat Wladimir to fight Monte Barret who got sparked by a journeyman last year, hes fighting a journeymans journeyman

    Wow, what a statement and what an impact a win over Barret will do for him (thats if his chin doesnt fail him), hands up who hasnt knocked out Monte Barrett??

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    Quote Originally Posted by leftylee View Post
    A certain Mr Haye would have something to say about that.
    He COULD but he could also fall flat on his ass too....I don't like Haye's chances vs either Klitschko especially Wlad at this point in time...Wlad has a great jab, he's fought some very tough styles (two southpaws) and he has really come into his own as a fighter. Wladimir is more confident and you'll see in his fight with Povetkin, Wlad is going to flatten him and people will then see how exciting a fighter Wlad can be.

    David Haye is going to have to prove himself...here's hoping he does it but we have had plenty of fighters who were supposed to be the next big thing and they haven't lived up to the hype: Joe Mesi, Sam Peter, Dominick Guinn, Audley Harrison, etc....I just think at some point Haye is going to get his bell rung and this time it'll be from a BIG guy and not some over the hill Carl Thompson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Wow, what a statement and what an impact a win over Barret will do for him (thats if his chin doesnt fail him), hands up who hasnt knocked out Monte Barrett??
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymOzDPHsFNg


    ....that's back when Monte had the chance to be somebody

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    Default Re: Ring Magazine Heavyweight Champion

    I think Klitcho should've been named the Champion after he unified against Ibragimov. it was not a great fight but it should've made him the new linear champion.

    In the passed, the next unified title winner bacame the linear champion.

    But I just realized I am mixing up themes here because the linear champion and the ring champion are not always the same

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Rookie Fan View Post
    I think Klitcho should've been named the Champion after he unified against Ibragimov. it was not a great fight but it should've made him the new linear champion.

    In the passed, the next unified title winner bacame the linear champion.

    But I just realized I am mixing up themes here because the linear champion and the ring champion are not always the same
    Yeah, isn't Erdei the lineal 175 champ? But the Ring champ is Calzaghe.

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    Default Re: Ring Magazine Heavyweight Champion

    well i fugured ruiz would be a shoe in
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Well I think Wladimir has to be THE MAN in the division as he has held his title for the longest AND he has 2 titles where as Vitali and whoever the WBA champ is (Valuev or Chagaev) only have one.

    I expect Wladimir will be THE unified heavyweight champion once Vitali wins the WBA belt and then retires.

    Wladimir is only 32 so he could just now be hitting his prime so we can expect another 5-8 years of him being the champion bar another experience like he had with Sanders.
    OMG i didnt realise Wlad was still only 32
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    Default Re: Ring Magazine Heavyweight Champion

    I really want Ruiz to get a shot , but not at the lumbering GIANT , at either Wlad or Vitali , cos i wanna see him KOED for all the boring shit we have had to put up with over the years.
    Remember reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol .

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    Default Re: Ring Magazine Heavyweight Champion

    5 to 8 years!!!! That is INSULTING. NO WAY, noooooo way.

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