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    Default Scary true story

    I received this in an email, I labeled it "Scary True Story" for the forum here, I hope it isn't true and hope someone can enlighten me on the details.

    Comments? (Especially posters from England.)



    A True Story
    >
    >
    > I forward with only one comment as the piece speaks for itself .. be
    > afraid, be very afraid because this could very well be US (pun intended)
    > in the next administration ...
    > ---------------------------------------------------------------
    >
    > You're sound asleep when you hear a thump outside your bedroom door.
    > Half-awake, and nearly paralyzed with fear, you hear muffled whispers.
    > At least two people have broken into your house and are moving your way.
    > With your heart pumping, you reach down beside your bed and pick up your
    > shotgun. You rack a shell into the chamber, then inch toward the door
    > and open it. In the darkness, you make out two shadows.
    >
    > One holds something that looks like a crowbar. When the intruder
    > brandishes it as if to strike, you raise the shotgun and fire. The
    > blast knocks both thugs to the floor. One writhes and screams while the
    > second man crawls to the front door and lurches outside. As you pick up
    > the telephone to call police, you know you're in trouble.
    > In your country, most guns were outlawed years before, and the few That
    > are privately owned are so stringently regulated as to make them
    > useless. Yours was never registered.
    >
    > Police arrive and inform you that the second burglar has died. They
    > arrest you for First Degree Murder and Illegal Possession of a Firearm.
    > When you talk to your attorney, he tells you not to worry: authorities
    > will probably plea the case down to manslaughter.
    > "What kind of sentence will I get?" you ask.
    > "Only ten-to-twelve years," he replies, as if that's nothing. "Behave
    > yourself, and you'll be out in seven."
    >
    > The next day, the shooting is the lead story in the local newspaper.
    > Somehow, you're portrayed as an eccentric vigilante while the two men
    > you shot are represented as choirboys. Their friends and relatives can't
    > find an unkind word to say about them. Buried deep down in the article,
    > authorities acknowledge that both "victims" have been arrested numerous
    > times. But the next day's headline says it all: "Lovable Rogue Son
    > Didn't Deserve to Die." The thieves have been transformed from career
    > criminals into Robin Hood-type pranksters.
    >
    > As the days wear on, the story takes wings. The national media picks it
    > up, then the international media. The surviving burglar has become a
    > folk hero.
    > Your attorney says the thief is preparing to sue you, and he'll probably
    > win. The media publishes reports that your home has been burglarized
    > several times in the past and that you've been critical of local police
    > for their lack of effort in apprehending the suspects. After the last
    > break-in, you told your neighbor that you would be prepared next time.
    > The District Attorney uses this to allege that you were lying in wait
    > for the burglars.
    >
    > A few months later, you go to trial. The charges haven't been reduced,
    > as your lawyer had so confidently predicted. When you take the stand,
    > your anger at the injustice of it all works against you. Prosecutors
    > paint a picture of you as a mean, vengeful man. It doesn't take long for
    > the jury to convict you of all charges.
    > The judge sentences you to life in prison.
    >
    > This case happened.
    > On August 22, 1999, Tony Martin of Emneth, Norfolk , England , killed
    > one burglar and wounded a second. In April, 2000, he was convicted and
    > is now serving a life term.
    > How did it become a crime to defend one's own life in the once great
    > British Empire ?
    >
    > It started with the Pistols Act of 1903. This seemingly reasonable law
    > forbade selling pistols to minors or felons and established that handgun
    > sales were to be made only to those who had a license. The Firearms Act
    > of 1920 expanded licensing to include not only handguns but all firearms
    > except shotguns
    >
    > Later laws passed in 1953 and 1967 outlawed the carrying of any weapon
    > by private citizens and mandated the registration of all shotguns.
    > Momentum for total handgun confiscation began in earnest after the
    > Hungerford mass shooting in 1987. Michael Ryan, a mentally disturbed Man
    > with a Kalashnikov rifle, walked down the streets shooting everyone he
    > saw. When the smoke cleared, 17 people were dead.
    >
    > The British public, already de-sensitized by eighty years of "gun
    > control", demanded even tougher restrictions. (The seizure of all
    > privately owned handguns was the objective even though Ryan used a
    > rifle.)
    > Nine years later, at Dunblane , Scotland , Thomas Hamilton used a
    > semi-automatic weapon to murder 16 children and a teacher at a public
    > school.
    >
    > For many years, the media had portrayed all gun owners as mentally
    > unstable, or worse, criminals. Now the press had a real kook with which
    > to beat up law-abiding gun owners. Day after day, week after week, the
    > media gave up all pretense of objectivity and demanded a total ban on
    > all handguns. The Dunblane Inquiry, a few months later, sealed the fate
    > of the few sidearm still owned by private citizens.
    >
    > During the years in which the British government incrementally took Away
    > most gun rights, the notion that a citizen had the right to armed
    > self-defense came to be seen as vigilantism. Authorities refused to
    > grant gun licenses to people who were threatened, claiming that
    > self-defense was no longer considered a reason to own a gun. Citizens
    > who shot burglars or robbers or rapists were charged while the real
    > criminals were released.
    > Indeed, after the Martin shooting, a police spokesman was quoted as
    > saying, "We cannot have people take the law into their own hands."
    >
    > All of Martin's neighbors had been robbed numerous times, and several
    > elderly people were severely injured in beatings by young thugs who had
    > no fear of the consequences. Martin himself, a collector of antiques,
    > had seen most of his collection trashed or stolen by burglars.
    > When the Dunblane Inquiry ended, citizens who owned handguns were given
    > three months to turn them over to local authorities. Being good British
    > subjects, most people obeyed the law. The few who didn't were visited by
    > police and threatened with ten-year prison sentences if they didn't
    > comply. Police later bragged that they'd taken nearly 200,000 handguns
    > from private citizens.
    > How did the authorities know who had handguns? The guns had been
    > registered and licensed. Kinda like cars.
    >
    > Sound familiar?
    >
    > WAKE UP AMERICA , THIS IS WHY OUR FOUNDING FATHERS PUT THE SECOND
    > AMENDMENT IN OUR CONSTITUTION
    > "..it does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate,
    > tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds.."
    > --Samuel Adams
    >
    > If you think this is important, please forward to everyone you know.
    Last edited by punch; 12-04-2008 at 10:37 AM.
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    Default Re: Scary true story

    I felt really sorry for Tony Martin when he got put away in prison.After all he was only protecting his home and wife as well as his own life.It was really big news when it first happened over here in the u.k.There had partitions in all of the papers relating on "WAS HE" or "WAS'NT HE" right to shoot the robbers who trespassed on his property?And he was well backed on the votes from most of the british citizens of "HE WAS" right to do what he did!After all if you happen to cross into someones land or property without they(the owners)permission then you suffer the consequence of whoever owns the land your on!!
    I mean personally if i was woken up to have robbers in my house then im taking the law into my hands no matter what.I have no gun,but i'll be using a baseball bat or a hammer handle to cause real damage to the robbers.

    Protect whats yours at all cost i say!
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    So the public wasn't swayed by the media? Did the British media back the robbers?
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    Default Re: Scary true story

    Thats real sad story man. If that thing happen to me i do the same. Id rather shoot those bastard that can hurt my family or somebody else. Trespassing is already a crime...

    WORST OF ALL...

    Media can manipulate everything...

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    Quote Originally Posted by punch View Post
    So the public wasn't swayed by the media? Did the British media back the robbers?

    It was a while ago since it happened but i do know that the surviving robber went to court and charged Martins for compensation for his injury(s).I cant remember if or how much he won,but he has a fooking cheek

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    Default Re: Scary true story

    Of course I would point out,the one he killed he shot in the back,and both were fleeing out a window when he shot them.
    I dont feel particularly bad for either of them, but its not as cut and dried as the original story makes it sound.

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    I should point out,that the murder conviction was reduced to manslaughter,Martin's out of jail now,and has himself been arrested since then,and the civil suit was dropped

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    The way they made that story as if he was the victim is laughable. As Trainer Monkey said that he shot the man in the back as he was running away. He went to he sisters house after and did not mention it. The civil action was dropped because it had no merit. There is one thing defending your family and another using it to shoot and kill people because you are p***** off with life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey View Post
    I should point out,that the murder conviction was reduced to manslaughter,Martin's out of jail now,and has himself been arrested since then,and the civil suit was dropped
    Not quite sure what you are saying here. Did Martin get arrested again for a different crime?
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    Quote Originally Posted by punch View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey View Post
    I should point out,that the murder conviction was reduced to manslaughter,Martin's out of jail now,and has himself been arrested since then,and the civil suit was dropped
    Not quite sure what you are saying here. Did Martin get arrested again for a different crime?
    Yep,he got out and quickly got busted on his own

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    Care to save me research time and tell me his new crime?
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