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    Default Speaking of Robberies involving Holyfield

    This is a great video; Jim Lamply and Larry Merchant cross examine one of the judges from Holyfield vs Lewis I.

    The best part comes at the end where Merchant and Lamply throw all the alphabet titles in the garbage.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPBYV2kb5xc

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    Default Re: Speaking of Robberies involving Holyfield

    heh heh. Interesting that Larry Merchant called Don King the WBC's benefactor, as if he was implicating King in exerting undue influence. King must have been pissed at that. I'm surprised he didn't sue.

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    Default Re: Speaking of Robberies involving Holyfield

    Now you would have to wheel a huge dumpster in studio as opposed to just one can for all of the trinkets and belts around today.She was borderline incompetent

    One good thing about HBO and there at times use of an over sized soapbox.....they put light on crap calls and kept it in the conscious of fans.Best thing you can do to injustice,spotlight it!!

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    The WBC and Don King(from Wikipedia)

    Many in the boxing community have accused the WBC of bending its rules to suit powerful promoter Don King. As journalist Jack Newfield says, “...[WBC President Jose] Sulaiman became more King’s junior partner than his independent regulator.”[1] Another journalist, Peter Heller, echoes that comment: “Sulaiman...became little more than an errand boy for Don King.” Heller also quotes British promoter Mickey Duff as saying, “My complaint is that Jose Sulaiman is not happy his friend Don King is the biggest promoter in boxing. Sulaiman will only be happy when Don King is the only promoter in boxing.”[2]

    The actions of the WBC give some credence to this charge. A partial list:
    When Leon Spinks won the WBA and WBC Heavyweight championships from Muhammad Ali in 1978, the WBC stripped Leon Spinks of his title. Jose Sulaiman said the WBC did so because Spinks was signed for a rematch with Ali instead of fighting a Don King fighter, Ken Norton. Norton then defended the WBC title against another Don King fighter, Larry Holmes, who won the belt.[3]
    In 1983, WBC Super Featherweight champion Bobby Chacon was signed to fight the WBC’s mandatory challenger for his title, Cornelius Boza-Edwards. Promoter Don King, however, wanted his fighter, Hector Camacho, to fight for the title. Even though WBC rules said the mandatory challenger should receive a shot at the title, the WBC withdrew its sanction from the fight and then stripped Chacon for refusing to fight Camacho.[4]

    Under WBC rules, a fighter is supposed to defend his title against a mandatory challenger at least once a year. For fighters controlled by Don King, this rule is often ignored. Mike Tyson, Alexis Arguello, and Carlos Zarate, for instance, were allowed to ignore their obligations to their mandatory contenders while WBC champions.[5]

    While WBC Super Featherweight champion, Julio César Chávez wanted to fight top contender Roger Mayweather for a promoter other than Don King. The WBC withheld its sanction of the fight until Don King became promoter.[6]

    When Mike Tyson lost to James "Buster" Douglas during a WBC and WBA Heavyweight championship defense, Don King convinced the WBC (along with the WBA) to withhold recognition of Douglas as heavyweight champion. King claimed that Tyson had actually won the fight due to knocking down Douglas and the referee giving Douglas a “long count."[7] Referee Octavio Meyran, in a sworn affidavit, claims that King threatened to have the WBC withhold payment of Meyran's hotel bill if Meyran did not support King's protest.[8] Because of intense public pressure, both the WBA and WBC backed down and recognized Douglas as champion.

    In 1992, the WBC threatened to strip Evander Holyfield of his title for defending it against Riddick Bowe instead of Razor Ruddock. Holyfield obtained a court order to stop the organization. In a taped deposition for the Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations, Holyfield stated that the WBC wanted him to defend his championship against Ruddock because Ruddock was managed by Don King.[9]
    During the 1990s, the WBC did not allow its champions to engage in unification bouts with WBO champions. However, in 1993, the Don King promoted super-middleweight showdown between WBC champion Nigel Benn and WBO champion Chris Eubank was recognized as a title unification fight by the WBC. Ironically, both men fought to a draw and each retained their respective titles.
    When Mike Tyson was released from prison in 1995, the WBC installed him as their #1 contender for their heavyweight championship. Tyson had not fought in four years, but was promoted by Don King.

    In 2000, King-promoted Julio César Chávez was the mandatory challenger for Kostya Tszyu's WBC super lightweight title. Chávez was the mandatory challenger though he had not fought at super lightweight for two years, had recently lost to journeyman boxer Willie Wise, and had not beaten a top contender since losing his first fight to Oscar de la Hoya in 1996.

    In 2005, the WBC stripped Javier Castillejo of his super welterweight title for fighting Fernando Vargas instead of Don King-promoted Ricardo Mayorga. Mayorga somehow qualified for a shot at the super welterweight title despite the fact that he had never fought at that weight limit and had lost two of his last three fights.

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    Default Re: Speaking of Robberies involving Holyfield

    They are all a joke, the last one was so that Oscar could have a title fight with the planned fight with Mayorga. Then it was used to sell the fight against Mayweather.
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    Default Re: Speaking of Robberies involving Holyfield

    I thought the Holyfield-Lewis II fight was a robbery as well....Evander won that one but they made a make-up call
    "Drown in a vat of whiskey.....death where is thy sting?" - W.C. Fields.

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    Default Re: Speaking of Robberies involving Holyfield

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    I thought the Holyfield-Lewis II fight was a robbery as well....Evander won that one but they made a make-up call
    It was very close, I thought it could have gone either way, and it didn't justify the wide margin by which Lewis won, but it wasn't nearly as blatant a travesty as the first.

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    Default Re: Speaking of Robberies involving Holyfield

    I totally agree CGM...the first one Holyfield did NOTHING to win that fight.
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