Thread: "Hatton's Last Fight with Malignaggi breakdown"

If you want to assess a fighters "present" skill status you best check out his previous fight. Malignaggi was Hatton's last fight. So was that fight an impressive win for Hatton? Knowing the facts we can really see a telling story about how good he really was that night. After the loss with money may, I believe his last 2 fight wasn't at all that impressive. Most especially if you breakdown what really happened during that fight.
People failed to remember, Malignaggi right hand was always injured through the course of his career making it really brittle the more he fought, and as you can see during the fight his right hand had no power to hurt ricky. Watching that fight again, Malignaggi wasnt the old relentless style fighter that he was, but a left hand "one handed jabber fighter" the whole fight and rarely brought out his brittle right hand on the table. Making it clearly a suspected brittle right hand as stated by Emanual steward during the fight. He was a one handed fighter that night. Ricky should definitely stop Malignaggi in that circumstances. An "A" class fighter should definitely defeat a one handed fighter without a punchers chance of even flooring him. That said, Ricky fighting pacman is whole different story. His fighting a guy with power and speed in both hands unlike Malignaggi cotton right hand. What I'm trying to say to you guys is that you shouldn't be impressed with ricky's win over Malignaggi. His right hand rarely used during the fight making it a suspected broken right fist with no power. A one handed fighter that night is so readable by the likes of ricky. I don't think a two handed fighter with power in the likes of pacman is easy to read by hatton. Case in pt, Ricky didn't prove anything fighting a 1 handed fighter while Manny has stunned us with his brilliance in his last fight. That's where you can see who's a better fighter between the two. A handicap fighter fighting with 1 hand was Hatton's opponent that night, he was just their to boost hatton's confidence for super fights. But that said Hatton's last 2 fights weren't brilliant so go figure if his still good in your eyes

Originally Posted by Spoon23

If you want to assess a fighters "present" skill status you best check out his previous fight. Malignaggi was Hatton's last fight. So was that fight an impressive win for Hatton? Knowing the facts we can really see a telling story about how good he really was that night. After the loss with money may, I believe his last 2 fight wasn't at all that impressive. Most especially if you breakdown what really happened during that fight.
People failed to remember, Malignaggi right hand was always injured through the course of his career making it really brittle the more he fought, and as you can see during the fight his right hand had no power to hurt ricky. Watching that fight again, Malignaggi wasnt the old relentless style fighter that he was, but a left hand "one handed jabber fighter" the whole fight and rarely brought out his brittle right hand on the table. Making it clearly a suspected brittle right hand as stated by Emanual steward during the fight. He was a one handed fighter that night. Ricky should definitely stop Malignaggi in that circumstances. An "A" class fighter should definitely defeat a one handed fighter without a punchers chance of even flooring him. That said, Ricky fighting pacman is whole different story. His fighting a guy with power and speed in both hands unlike Malignaggi cotton right hand. What I'm trying to say to you guys is that you shouldn't be impressed with ricky's win over Malignaggi. His right hand rarely used during the fight making it a suspected broken right fist with no power. A one handed fighter that night is so readable by the likes of ricky. I don't think a two handed fighter with power in the likes of pacman is easy to read by hatton. Case in pt, Ricky didn't prove jAck **** fighting a 1 handed fighter while manny has stunned us with his brilliance in his last fight. That's where you can see who's a better fighter between the two. A handicap fighter fighting with 1 hand was Hatton's opponent that night, he was just their to boost hatton's confidence for super fights. But that said Hatton's last 2 fights weren't brilliant so go figure if his still good in your eyes

Yawn.

Originally Posted by miles

Originally Posted by Spoon23

If you want to assess a fighters "present" skill status you best check out his previous fight. Malignaggi was Hatton's last fight. So was that fight an impressive win for Hatton? Knowing the facts we can really see a telling story about how good he really was that night. After the loss with money may, I believe his last 2 fight wasn't at all that impressive. Most especially if you breakdown what really happened during that fight.
People failed to remember, Malignaggi right hand was always injured through the course of his career making it really brittle the more he fought, and as you can see during the fight his right hand had no power to hurt ricky. Watching that fight again, Malignaggi wasnt the old relentless style fighter that he was, but a left hand "one handed jabber fighter" the whole fight and rarely brought out his brittle right hand on the table. Making it clearly a suspected brittle right hand as stated by Emanual steward during the fight. He was a one handed fighter that night. Ricky should definitely stop Malignaggi in that circumstances. An "A" class fighter should definitely defeat a one handed fighter without a punchers chance of even flooring him. That said, Ricky fighting pacman is whole different story. His fighting a guy with power and speed in both hands unlike Malignaggi cotton right hand. What I'm trying to say to you guys is that you shouldn't be impressed with ricky's win over Malignaggi. His right hand rarely used during the fight making it a suspected broken right fist with no power. A one handed fighter that night is so readable by the likes of ricky. I don't think a two handed fighter with power in the likes of pacman is easy to read by hatton. Case in pt, Ricky didn't prove jAck **** fighting a 1 handed fighter while manny has stunned us with his brilliance in his last fight. That's where you can see who's a better fighter between the two. A handicap fighter fighting with 1 hand was Hatton's opponent that night, he was just their to boost hatton's confidence for super fights. But that said Hatton's last 2 fights weren't brilliant so go figure if his still good in your eyes

Yawn.

Styles make fights and every fighter has a bad night when it comes to boxing so to judge a fighter by his last performance is bullshit.
For example just look at Mosleys last performace against Mayorga, Mosley struggled with Mayorgas unorthodox style and didnt look half the fighter we are used to seeing in the ring and when he took the fight with Margarito whos last fight was one of the best wins of his career with the stoppage of Cotto hardley anyone (me included and im a massive Mosley fan) gave Shane a chance let alone to KO Margarito. Never judge a fighter by there last performance.

If you based it on their respective last fights, Hatton's accomplishment pales in comparison to PAC...

Even if we based it on the last 2 fights; Hatton's performance over Malignaggi and Lazcano compared to PAC's performance over Hoya and Diaz, there's no comparison...

If we rank Hatton compared to PAC's last 2 opponent, it might look like this:

Hoya
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Hatton
Diaz


If we rank PAC compared to Hatton's last 2 opponent, it might look like this:

PAC
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.
.
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Lazcano / Malignaggi

There's really no comparison... That's why I think Hatton will be beaten very badly by PAC on this fight...
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Originally Posted by Spoon23

If you want to assess a fighters "present" skill status you best check out his previous fight. Malignaggi was Hatton's last fight. So was that fight an impressive win for Hatton? Knowing the facts we can really see a telling story about how good he really was that night. After the loss with money may, I believe his last 2 fight wasn't at all that impressive. Most especially if you breakdown what really happened during that fight.
People failed to remember, Malignaggi right hand was always injured through the course of his career making it really brittle the more he fought, and as you can see during the fight his right hand had no power to hurt ricky. Watching that fight again, Malignaggi wasnt the old relentless style fighter that he was, but a left hand "one handed jabber fighter" the whole fight and rarely brought out his brittle right hand on the table. Making it clearly a suspected brittle right hand as stated by Emanual steward during the fight. He was a one handed fighter that night. Ricky should definitely stop Malignaggi in that circumstances. An "A" class fighter should definitely defeat a one handed fighter without a punchers chance of even flooring him. That said, Ricky fighting pacman is whole different story. His fighting a guy with power and speed in both hands unlike Malignaggi cotton right hand. What I'm trying to say to you guys is that you shouldn't be impressed with ricky's win over Malignaggi. His right hand rarely used during the fight making it a suspected broken right fist with no power. A one handed fighter that night is so readable by the likes of ricky. I don't think a two handed fighter with power in the likes of pacman is easy to read by hatton. Case in pt, Ricky didn't prove jAck **** fighting a 1 handed fighter while manny has stunned us with his brilliance in his last fight. That's where you can see who's a better fighter between the two. A handicap fighter fighting with 1 hand was Hatton's opponent that night, he was just their to boost hatton's confidence for super fights. But that said Hatton's last 2 fights weren't brilliant so go figure if his still good in your eyes

3 posts, all new threads and all about Hatton, looking a bit like a troll here. You haven't been here before by any chance have you

What would you say is a bigger hinderance....sore right hand or being severley weight-drained.

Collazo fractured his hand against Mosley yet people give Shane credit for it.

Paulie broke his right hand against Cotto yet everyone claims how good a beat down it was (it was quite a close fight on the cards).

So yeah, good post

Originally Posted by Boxerharvey

Originally Posted by miles

Originally Posted by Spoon23

If you want to assess a fighters "present" skill status you best check out his previous fight. Malignaggi was Hatton's last fight. So was that fight an impressive win for Hatton? Knowing the facts we can really see a telling story about how good he really was that night. After the loss with money may, I believe his last 2 fight wasn't at all that impressive. Most especially if you breakdown what really happened during that fight.
People failed to remember, Malignaggi right hand was always injured through the course of his career making it really brittle the more he fought, and as you can see during the fight his right hand had no power to hurt ricky. Watching that fight again, Malignaggi wasnt the old relentless style fighter that he was, but a left hand "one handed jabber fighter" the whole fight and rarely brought out his brittle right hand on the table. Making it clearly a suspected brittle right hand as stated by Emanual steward during the fight. He was a one handed fighter that night. Ricky should definitely stop Malignaggi in that circumstances. An "A" class fighter should definitely defeat a one handed fighter without a punchers chance of even flooring him. That said, Ricky fighting pacman is whole different story. His fighting a guy with power and speed in both hands unlike Malignaggi cotton right hand. What I'm trying to say to you guys is that you shouldn't be impressed with ricky's win over Malignaggi. His right hand rarely used during the fight making it a suspected broken right fist with no power. A one handed fighter that night is so readable by the likes of ricky. I don't think a two handed fighter with power in the likes of pacman is easy to read by hatton. Case in pt, Ricky didn't prove jAck **** fighting a 1 handed fighter while manny has stunned us with his brilliance in his last fight. That's where you can see who's a better fighter between the two. A handicap fighter fighting with 1 hand was Hatton's opponent that night, he was just their to boost hatton's confidence for super fights. But that said Hatton's last 2 fights weren't brilliant so go figure if his still good in your eyes

Yawn.

Styles make fights and every fighter has a bad night when it comes to boxing so to judge a fighter by his last performance is bullshit.
For example just look at Mosleys last performace against Mayorga, Mosley struggled with Mayorgas unorthodox style and didnt look half the fighter we are used to seeing in the ring and when he took the fight with Margarito whos last fight was one of the best wins of his career with the stoppage of Cotto hardley anyone (me included and im a massive Mosley fan) gave Shane a chance let alone to KO Margarito. Never judge a fighter by there last performance.

Mate, I believe styles makes fights. What you didn't understand is regarding my post that I'm just trying to tell the readers Hatton's last fight shouldn't be considered great. Hatton fought a one handed fighter making him looked brilliant in the fight, but really was he? knowing his oponnent was handicaped fighting a 1 handed fighter do you still consider that fight an amazing achievment for ricky?. And based on Hatton's previous 2 fights before his fights with malignaggi. You think he did good to. Just stating that watching past 'recent' fights would tell if a fighter is declining or stagnant or improving. I guess for me Hatton seem to be stagnant or declining even with the help of may senior.

Spoon23:

Are you Moono's brother?

Originally Posted by Spoon23

Originally Posted by Boxerharvey

Originally Posted by miles

Yawn.

Styles make fights and every fighter has a bad night when it comes to boxing so to judge a fighter by his last performance is bullshit.
For example just look at Mosleys last performace against Mayorga, Mosley struggled with Mayorgas unorthodox style and didnt look half the fighter we are used to seeing in the ring and when he took the fight with Margarito whos last fight was one of the best wins of his career with the stoppage of Cotto hardley anyone (me included and im a massive Mosley fan) gave Shane a chance let alone to KO Margarito. Never judge a fighter by there last performance.

Mate, I believe styles makes fights. What you didn't understand is regarding my post that I'm just trying to tell the readers Hatton's last fight shouldn't be considered great. Hatton fought a one handed fighter making him looked brilliant in the fight, but really was he? knowing his oponnent was handicaped fighting a 1 handed fighter do you still consider that fight an amazing achievment for ricky?. And based on Hatton's previous 2 fights before his fights with malignaggi. You think he did good to. Just stating that watching past 'recent' fights would tell if a fighter is declining or stagnant or improving. I guess for me Hatton seem to be stagnant or declining even with the help of may senior.

And Pac beat an Oscar who was screwed up on slimming pills or something. What is your point? Oh, the one armed fighter Malignaggi excuse. He did alright for a guy with one hand.

Pac has struggled at smaller weights with Marquez and Morales.

Hatton has struggled at higher weights against Mayweather and Collazo.

It's a fight with few common opponents to judge from. It's a pick 'em. Just shut up and agree with me.

Originally Posted by miles

Originally Posted by Spoon23

Originally Posted by Boxerharvey

Styles make fights and every fighter has a bad night when it comes to boxing so to judge a fighter by his last performance is bullshit.
For example just look at Mosleys last performace against Mayorga, Mosley struggled with Mayorgas unorthodox style and didnt look half the fighter we are used to seeing in the ring and when he took the fight with Margarito whos last fight was one of the best wins of his career with the stoppage of Cotto hardley anyone (me included and im a massive Mosley fan) gave Shane a chance let alone to KO Margarito. Never judge a fighter by there last performance.

Mate, I believe styles makes fights. What you didn't understand is regarding my post that I'm just trying to tell the readers Hatton's last fight shouldn't be considered great. Hatton fought a one handed fighter making him looked brilliant in the fight, but really was he? knowing his oponnent was handicaped fighting a 1 handed fighter do you still consider that fight an amazing achievment for ricky?. And based on Hatton's previous 2 fights before his fights with malignaggi. You think he did good to. Just stating that watching past 'recent' fights would tell if a fighter is declining or stagnant or improving. I guess for me Hatton seem to be stagnant or declining even with the help of may senior.

And Pac beat an Oscar who was screwed up on slimming pills or something. What is your point? Oh, the one armed fighter Malignaggi excuse. He did alright for a guy with one hand.

Pac has struggled at smaller weights with Marquez and Morales.

Hatton has struggled at higher weights against Mayweather and Collazo.

It's a fight with few common opponents to judge from. It's a pick 'em. Just shut up and agree with me.

Bro, that's my point. Hatton did pretty good with a one handed fighter. Was that fair? He was actually fighting a 'c' Class fighter that used to be 'b'. Just to eleborate 'c' class coz he is now a one handed fighter getz?? It was just a confidence boost for him. Regarding Oscar's slimming pills. Didn't pacman start 2008 at 130lbs to fight marquez, and on december 8 jumping to 147, so even if you tell me he was weight drained which delahoya clearly said on 24/7 his in his best form of his life. Everything was 'even' come fight night. Manny is no welter, but he beat a legit welter even if his weight drained. Manny went up 17 lbs. even if you think delahoya was a slim guy was still the bigger guy so if you based it on handicaps Dlh vs Pacman was about even that night. Who won that fight was the better guy period. peace =) And pac struggling at lower weights, didn't you notice pacs evolution, his getting better, hasn't peacked yet. Hence, pac struggled with morales on there first fight factor in pacs cut in the eye almost knocking morales down on the 12. Then beating him up on the 2nd and 3rd fight shows his evolution. About marquez which pac floored 3 times on the first fight to get a draw and then after four years got knocked dwn again on the 3rd round and almost goes down on the 10th, but it was close but what larry merchant said thast night marquez brothers always seem to come out short against the better fighhters. That said marquez is no pushover that's why his rated 2nd pound for pound now that calzahe is away. See my point just admit the facts mate. Hatton is an underdog but for every fighter, they all have a chance of winning but slimmer though. Yawn lol

Am I the only one who saw this part of it "Maliignaggi wasnt the old relentless style fighter that he was"

Originally Posted by Spoon23

Originally Posted by miles

Originally Posted by Spoon23

Mate, I believe styles makes fights. What you didn't understand is regarding my post that I'm just trying to tell the readers Hatton's last fight shouldn't be considered great. Hatton fought a one handed fighter making him looked brilliant in the fight, but really was he? knowing his oponnent was handicaped fighting a 1 handed fighter do you still consider that fight an amazing achievment for ricky?. And based on Hatton's previous 2 fights before his fights with malignaggi. You think he did good to. Just stating that watching past 'recent' fights would tell if a fighter is declining or stagnant or improving. I guess for me Hatton seem to be stagnant or declining even with the help of may senior.

And Pac beat an Oscar who was screwed up on slimming pills or something. What is your point? Oh, the one armed fighter Malignaggi excuse. He did alright for a guy with one hand.

Pac has struggled at smaller weights with Marquez and Morales.

Hatton has struggled at higher weights against Mayweather and Collazo.

It's a fight with few common opponents to judge from. It's a pick 'em. Just shut up and agree with me.

Bro, that's my point. Hatton did pretty good with a one handed fighter. Was that fair? He was actually fighting a 'c' Class fighter that used to be 'b'. Just to eleborate 'c' class coz he is now a one handed fighter getz?? It was just a confidence boost for him. Regarding Oscar's slimming pills. Didn't pacman start 2008 at 130lbs to fight marquez, and on december 8 jumping to 147, so even if you tell me he was weight drained which delahoya clearly said on 24/7 his in his best form of his life. Everything was 'even' come fight night. Manny is no welter, but he beat a legit welter even if his weight drained. Manny went up 17 lbs. even if you think delahoya was a slim guy was still the bigger guy so if you based it on handicaps Dlh vs Pacman was about even that night. Who won that fight was the better guy period. peace =) And pac struggling at lower weights, didn't you notice pacs evolution, his getting better, hasn't peacked yet. Hence, pac struggled with morales on there first fight factor in pacs cut in the eye almost knocking morales down on the 12. Then beating him up on the 2nd and 3rd fight shows his evolution. About marquez which pac floored 3 times on the first fight to get a draw and then after four years got knocked dwn again on the 3rd round and almost goes down on the 10th, but it was close but what larry merchant said thast night marquez brothers always seem to come out short against the better fighhters. That said marquez is no pushover that's why his rated 2nd pound for pound now that calzahe is away. See my point just admit the facts mate. Hatton is an underdog but for every fighter, they all have a chance of winning but slimmer though. Yawn lol

I didn't actually agree with you there btw. I was just trying to show how your completely one sided job isn't a reflection of reality, except inside your head.

If you believe what DLH says on a 24/7 then that is automatic proof that your opinion is worthless. You are one seriously gullible mutt. And you should learn the art of the paragraph. Your writing style insults my eyes.

Yawn!

Is this Ice's new personality

Originally Posted by miles

Originally Posted by Spoon23

Originally Posted by miles

And Pac beat an Oscar who was screwed up on slimming pills or something. What is your point? Oh, the one armed fighter Malignaggi excuse. He did alright for a guy with one hand.

Pac has struggled at smaller weights with Marquez and Morales.

Hatton has struggled at higher weights against Mayweather and Collazo.

It's a fight with few common opponents to judge from. It's a pick 'em. Just shut up and agree with me.

Bro, that's my point. Hatton did pretty good with a one handed fighter. Was that fair? He was actually fighting a 'c' Class fighter that used to be 'b'. Just to eleborate 'c' class coz he is now a one handed fighter getz?? It was just a confidence boost for him. Regarding Oscar's slimming pills. Didn't pacman start 2008 at 130lbs to fight marquez, and on december 8 jumping to 147, so even if you tell me he was weight drained which delahoya clearly said on 24/7 his in his best form of his life. Everything was 'even' come fight night. Manny is no welter, but he beat a legit welter even if his weight drained. Manny went up 17 lbs. even if you think delahoya was a slim guy was still the bigger guy so if you based it on handicaps Dlh vs Pacman was about even that night. Who won that fight was the better guy period. peace =) And pac struggling at lower weights, didn't you notice pacs evolution, his getting better, hasn't peacked yet. Hence, pac struggled with morales on there first fight factor in pacs cut in the eye almost knocking morales down on the 12. Then beating him up on the 2nd and 3rd fight shows his evolution. About marquez which pac floored 3 times on the first fight to get a draw and then after four years got knocked dwn again on the 3rd round and almost goes down on the 10th, but it was close but what larry merchant said thast night marquez brothers always seem to come out short against the better fighhters. That said marquez is no pushover that's why his rated 2nd pound for pound now that calzahe is away. See my point just admit the facts mate. Hatton is an underdog but for every fighter, they all have a chance of winning but slimmer though. Yawn lol

I didn't actually agree with you there btw. I was just trying to show how your completely one sided job isn't a reflection of reality, except inside your head.

If you believe what DLH says on a 24/7 then that is automatic proof that your opinion is worthless. You are one seriously gullible mutt. And you should learn the art of the paragraph. Your writing style insults my eyes.

Yawn!

Mate don't you understand simple english?? I said even if you tell me he was weight drained or better yet oscar saying his in his best form but he really was 'not'. They both where coming in the ring handicapped. Pac coming up 17 lbs and Dlh coming dwn to 147. So both fighters met halfway. 'Even steven' comprende?? Don't think you would understand, but at least i tried to squeeze some more intellect in that brain of yours. Cheers!!

Do I not understand simple English?!

Now that makes me laugh. Your last post offered me little beyond the most futile of insults. Now, 'mate' as you ever so eloquently put it, you have Pac stepping in against Hatton who always fights at 140. And you pitch Pac in there at 140. Much more even isn't it? There are no excuses are there?