Thread: OK, seriously what are the odds?

So I'm sitting here looking up some stats and fighters online as usual I've got a couple of tabs/windows opened to different sources.

I'm surfing the net and I see an article that caught my eye.
I'm really not sure what to think but after reading it I've come to the conclusion that "someone" either had the EXACT same thoughts as me on the MAB-Khan fight OR that "someone" is here at Saddos or reads at Saddos and took my comments.

(or I'm going crazy)

So here are my comments from yesterday after the fight minutes after:

Originally Posted by CutMeMick

What a crock of shit...
MAB should have been smarter about this or his team should have been smarter.

Just end the fight, it was clear they werent gonna stop the bleeding. Just pull the plug on the fight have the Doc see the cut say you got a massive headache or a you can't see out of the eye due to the blood flow.

It was pretty damn obvious that the TD was gonna happen.

Originally Posted by CutMeMick

I just don't get it...
I mean Guerrero just did this the other night. He knew eventually they'd pull the plug on the fight and IMO he was getting beat. Would he have not opened his mouth and said he couldn't see they would have let him fight on.

You'd think a team that's been on the world stage this long would know and think ahead about situations like this. I kept telling my friend here they need to pull the plug before the 4th or this will end in favor of Khan by points. All Khan has to do is make it past the 4th...

Originally Posted by CutMeMick

As for Amir looks like Freddie has gave him a new look. Jumping in and out, showing different angles and keeping his defense high and tight. Good to see that he's learned some things from Freddie.

The article:
March 14th, M.E.N. Arena in Manchester, United Kingdom: The “Baby Faced Assassin” Marco Antonio Barrera, a veteran twenty eight title fights and 72 professional bouts total could have taken a page from fellow Mexican American fighter Robert “The Ghost Guerrero.”

Just last week March 7th fighting on HBO’s Boxing After Dark from the HP Pavilion in San Jose, Guerrero 23-1-1, 16 Ko’s took on Daud "Chino Latino" Yordan, 23-0, 17Ko’s for the NABO junior lightweight title. In the second round of their championship fight Guerrero received a deep gash over his right eye from an accidental clash of heads. The blood was free flowing and dripping directly into his eye blinding him. Guerrero immediately made sure that referee Jon Schorle was aware of the cut and continued on.

Once Guerrero realized he was going to be severely handicapped by his lack of vision he again brought it to the referee’s attention leading to the subsequent doctors stopping of the fight ultimately called a no decision.

In comparison 35 year old Barrera, now promoted by Don King arrived in Manchester with a forty person entourage minus his usual cut man Rudy Perez for his WBA, WBO Lightweight Title fight with 22-year-old Amir Khan 20-1, 15 Ko’s. Early in the opening round Barrera suffered a severe cut on the left side of his head just below the hair line from an accidental clash of heads which left Khan with a small cut over his left eye. As the round continued it was evident by Barrera’s red painted face the cut would be come a factor. Barrera’s corner did not appear prepared to deal with the cut. In the fourth round the fight was examined by the ring side physician and Barrera did not appear to protest out loud. The fight continued and the action was again called to a stop and after his second exam the doctor advised referee Dave Parris to top the fight.

The cut was a large deep gash from the start and should have been stopped immediately. There was a constant shower of blood and no major difference between rounds four and five. The only change now the fight would go to the scorecards where Khan was clearly in charge.

Some prudence in Barrera’s corner or maybe a little less machismo on the part of the seven time world champion referee Parris would have addressed the severity of the cut and called it earlier.

Putting the cut aside Khan was sharp. His hand speed and new high defense would have caused Barrera problems with two eyes. He used a snapping triple jab and sharp right hands putting Barrera on his heels. The cut was a factor but even in a no decision Khan would have proved he belongs at the top with the world top lightweights. Maybe a no decision should have been the call but it would serve only to give Barrera one more shot. No one can deny the quality Freddie Roach has brought to Team Khan.

Don't know why but I just find it very strange as I read it it just felt like the exact same thing I posted but with added text.
Could also be a coinsedence I guess. The link I clicked led me to EastideBoxing which makes me even more suspicious...

Was it written by ICB?

Perhaps questionable. But, and take no offense, nothing was said in either articles/comments that was esp. profound....that couldnt have been thought by someone else.

Originally Posted by Diane

Was it written by ICB?

He is a member at EastSide...

Originally Posted by boozeboxer

Perhaps questionable. But, and take no offense, nothing was said in either articles/comments that was esp. profound....that couldnt have been thought by someone else.

I think cause the article is from EastSide is what made me suspicious...

Well I did put a lot of emphasis on Team MAB not being smart enough to know the situation.

I did bring up the Guerrero fight and said MAB should have told the ref. something just like Guerrero did.

Ah man thats rich.Its a copy & paste world.Who knows though,Ya might have yourself a stalker Mick ?Makes me think of the blood drawing scene from the kurt russell remake of "The Thing" haha.Teddy Atlas steals half my stuff every FNF... he and I must see some things the same way,Gotdamn that scares the life out of me!!seriously

And eastside sux nuggets no doubt.

To be honest it was hardly an original thought. I think everybody within boxing practically will think Barrera and his team fucked up in electing to fight on, especially after he clearly lost the first 3 rounds.

He should have quit whilst he was behind.

Using Guerreo as an example of what Barrera should have done is to be expected as well seeing as that only happened last weekend.

I really doubt somebody comes on here to read your thoughts before they post on their own forum.

Bilbo is in permanent ultra Ninja mode ,sort of miss em.Hobbits.... come out to plaaaayyay....clang,clang,clang.....out to ppplaaaayay

Alright then, it's just me going crazy...

Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins

Bilbo is in permanent ultra Ninja mode ,sort of miss em.Hobbits.... come out to plaaaayyay....clang,clang,clang.....out to ppplaaaayay

You can rest assured I'm always here spicoli.

Even when I'm asleep I'm wired into my laptop.

Originally Posted by CutMeMick

Alright then, it's just me going crazy...

If you're crazy then I shouldn't be allowed near children, pets, or any sharp objects.

I'm with you cutmemick. The general flow of the article is similar to yours and the points made are made at the same points in the published one. The mention of the cut, MAB's team, the ref, the doc all seem seem to follow what you wrote, in the same order. Sure someone could have the same thoughts but putting them on paper (so to speak) with the same structure is a bit statistically odd i would reckon.

It can't be ICB, he would've copied way more of the words than that

Truthfully Mick, there isn't anything particularly different in there, I think a lot of people thought the same, although I will admit the actual flow of it was very similar to yours. Still, doubt its ICB for the reasons above, he's not one to so dramatically re-word things

On the Guerrero incident. I think he did the smart thing not only because the cut was a bad one, but his wife is not well.

There is no need to take a beating when you can just heal up and start fresh. If someone butted my face open at the start of the fight I would instantly stop, drop, and roll right under the ropes and be sitting in the dressing room with one glove off before the round could end.

Originally Posted by CutMeMick

So I'm sitting here looking up some stats and fighters online as usual I've got a couple of tabs/windows opened to different sources.

I'm surfing the net and I see an article that caught my eye.
I'm really not sure what to think but after reading it I've come to the conclusion that "someone" either had the EXACT same thoughts as me on the MAB-Khan fight OR that "someone" is here at Saddos or reads at Saddos and took my comments.

(or I'm going crazy)

So here are my comments from yesterday after the fight minutes after:

Originally Posted by CutMeMick

What a crock of shit...
MAB should have been smarter about this or his team should have been smarter.

Just end the fight, it was clear they werent gonna stop the bleeding. Just pull the plug on the fight have the Doc see the cut say you got a massive headache or a you can't see out of the eye due to the blood flow.

It was pretty damn obvious that the TD was gonna happen.

Originally Posted by CutMeMick

I just don't get it...
I mean Guerrero just did this the other night. He knew eventually they'd pull the plug on the fight and IMO he was getting beat. Would he have not opened his mouth and said he couldn't see they would have let him fight on.

You'd think a team that's been on the world stage this long would know and think ahead about situations like this. I kept telling my friend here they need to pull the plug before the 4th or this will end in favor of Khan by points. All Khan has to do is make it past the 4th...

Originally Posted by CutMeMick

As for Amir looks like Freddie has gave him a new look. Jumping in and out, showing different angles and keeping his defense high and tight. Good to see that he's learned some things from Freddie.

The article:
March 14th, M.E.N. Arena in Manchester, United Kingdom: The “Baby Faced Assassin” Marco Antonio Barrera, a veteran twenty eight title fights and 72 professional bouts total could have taken a page from fellow Mexican American fighter Robert “The Ghost Guerrero.”

Just last week March 7th fighting on HBO’s Boxing After Dark from the HP Pavilion in San Jose, Guerrero 23-1-1, 16 Ko’s took on Daud "Chino Latino" Yordan, 23-0, 17Ko’s for the NABO junior lightweight title. In the second round of their championship fight Guerrero received a deep gash over his right eye from an accidental clash of heads. The blood was free flowing and dripping directly into his eye blinding him. Guerrero immediately made sure that referee Jon Schorle was aware of the cut and continued on.

Once Guerrero realized he was going to be severely handicapped by his lack of vision he again brought it to the referee’s attention leading to the subsequent doctors stopping of the fight ultimately called a no decision.

In comparison 35 year old Barrera, now promoted by Don King arrived in Manchester with a forty person entourage minus his usual cut man Rudy Perez for his WBA, WBO Lightweight Title fight with 22-year-old Amir Khan 20-1, 15 Ko’s. Early in the opening round Barrera suffered a severe cut on the left side of his head just below the hair line from an accidental clash of heads which left Khan with a small cut over his left eye. As the round continued it was evident by Barrera’s red painted face the cut would be come a factor. Barrera’s corner did not appear prepared to deal with the cut. In the fourth round the fight was examined by the ring side physician and Barrera did not appear to protest out loud. The fight continued and the action was again called to a stop and after his second exam the doctor advised referee Dave Parris to top the fight.

The cut was a large deep gash from the start and should have been stopped immediately. There was a constant shower of blood and no major difference between rounds four and five. The only change now the fight would go to the scorecards where Khan was clearly in charge.

Some prudence in Barrera’s corner or maybe a little less machismo on the part of the seven time world champion referee Parris would have addressed the severity of the cut and called it earlier.

Putting the cut aside Khan was sharp. His hand speed and new high defense would have caused Barrera problems with two eyes. He used a snapping triple jab and sharp right hands putting Barrera on his heels. The cut was a factor but even in a no decision Khan would have proved he belongs at the top with the world top lightweights. Maybe a no decision should have been the call but it would serve only to give Barrera one more shot. No one can deny the quality Freddie Roach has brought to Team Khan.

Don't know why but I just find it very strange as I read it it just felt like the exact same thing I posted but with added text.
Could also be a coinsedence I guess. The link I clicked led me to EastideBoxing which makes me even more suspicious...

With all due respect, i think you're going crazy, haha..

I say coincidence, as there really aren't any words/verbs that were really profoundly used in conjunction with your posts.. Same general idea, though, i'll give you that.. but considering the subject matter, i don't think it would be crazy for two people to have the same comments on the topic..

You're suffering post-traumatic stress from ICB.. it's okay .