Thread: Say what you like - Khan should never have won

Say what you like - Khan should never have won

Yes, I can be accused of flogging a dead horse but I thought it was a good article and not from someone who could (unlike me) be accused of being a hugger.

Guess it's more for your reading pleasure than to get in an argument about.

Khan should not have been declared the winner. This result is a sad reflection upon British boxing. The media have lost their heads completely in their evaluation of Khan's win. It was not impressive, it was total and utter crap.

If I was Barrera I would actually sue the British officials. I've certainly seen fights stopped for far less.

if an accidental headbutt occured within 4 rounds then if it gets stopped its a no contest right? but if a cut bad enough to stop the fight was caused by a punch then thats a tko?

yes.

Originally Posted by mnmc10

if an accidental headbutt occured within 4 rounds then if it gets stopped its a no contest right? but if a cut bad enough to stop the fight was caused by a punch then thats a tko?

That's right. Barrera was hit on the head with a butt in the second minute.
And the blood flowed for nearly 20 minutes before they stopped it. Shouldve have been a NC.

Did Khan really beat Barrera? Not at all. Of course Khan thinks he has answered his critics.

yep - just like Lewis v Vitali

It's a tough one. Barrera wanted to continue, the ref and doctor were probably shitting themselves in case they stopped it and the crowd got a tad upset .

Agree about the fact it's all been blown into a roaring Khan success and hiow he is now world class again though



I now honestly think a rematch needs to happen to draw a line under it. Am surprised MAB hasn't made noises about one

Originally Posted by Mark TKO

yep - just like Lewis v Vitali

It's a tough one. Barrera wanted to continue, the ref and doctor were probably shitting themselves in case they stopped it and the crowd got a tad upset .

Agree about the fact it's all been blown into a roaring Khan success and hiow he is now world class again though



I now honestly think a rematch needs to happen to draw a line under it. Am surprised MAB hasn't made noises about one

I think a rematch is the only way to settle it. But you have to argue, why would Barrera ever want to go through that again. Khan could do it but he wouldn't in a million years.

I honestly think Barrera would spark him in 8.

timing.


If the reports are accurate it means he is out for 5 to 6 months. I believe the plan would have been to manouvre him for a world title sooner rather than later.

As it is Khan moves up that spot & Barrera, Barrera would have challenged for a title as his next fight, fairly sure of this, Khan gets 1 or 2 easy fights to polish up his new style and a title shot.

Who knows maybe see if Khan can get an alphabet title during his lay off, Barrera challenges for a rematch & gets a title at a 4th weight

Originally Posted by Mark TKO

yep - just like Lewis v Vitali

It's a tough one. Barrera wanted to continue, the ref and doctor were probably shitting themselves in case they stopped it and the crowd got a tad upset .

Agree about the fact it's all been blown into a roaring Khan success and hiow he is now world class again though



I now honestly think a rematch needs to happen to draw a line under it. Am surprised MAB hasn't made noises about one

Nah Lewis beat Vitali fair and sqaure . He punched Vitali until he could no longer go on . Thats a legit stoppage . No headbutts involved but when a guy nuts the other in the opening seconds they shouldnt have waited conveniently until round 5 to stop it . They only made Barrera suffer that long so they could call Khan the winner.

I agree.

It should of been stopped in the first.

Originally Posted by GAME

Originally Posted by Mark TKO

yep - just like Lewis v Vitali

It's a tough one. Barrera wanted to continue, the ref and doctor were probably shitting themselves in case they stopped it and the crowd got a tad upset .

Agree about the fact it's all been blown into a roaring Khan success and hiow he is now world class again though



I now honestly think a rematch needs to happen to draw a line under it. Am surprised MAB hasn't made noises about one

Nah Lewis beat Vitali fair and sqaure . He punched Vitali until he could no longer go on . Thats a legit stoppage . No headbutts involved but when a guy nuts the other in the opening seconds they shouldnt have waited conveniently until round 5 to stop it . They only made Barrera suffer that long so they could call Khan the winner.

Yes I know Lewis beat Vitali fair and square - which is why I said that ??

Originally Posted by GAME

Originally Posted by Mark TKO

yep - just like Lewis v Vitali

It's a tough one. Barrera wanted to continue, the ref and doctor were probably shitting themselves in case they stopped it and the crowd got a tad upset .

Agree about the fact it's all been blown into a roaring Khan success and hiow he is now world class again though



I now honestly think a rematch needs to happen to draw a line under it. Am surprised MAB hasn't made noises about one

Nah Lewis beat Vitali fair and sqaure . He punched Vitali until he could no longer go on . Thats a legit stoppage . No headbutts involved but when a guy nuts the other in the opening seconds they shouldnt have waited conveniently until round 5 to stop it . They only made Barrera suffer that long so they could call Khan the winner.

give me a fucking break....nobody made Barrera do anything, his pride was the reason the fight went on, he could have refused to go on and it would have been a NC, and nobody in their right mind would be able to say shit with how bad the cut was, end of story

Originally Posted by mnmc10

if an accidental headbutt occured within 4 rounds then if it gets stopped its a no contest right? but if a cut bad enough to stop the fight was caused by a punch then thats a tko?

Technically yeah. But it would have been a different story if the headbutt didn't occur. I think most people including me (expecially Barrera fans) were expecting a JMM-JDiaz ending.. where the younger fighter was dominant in early rounds and gets schooled in later round by a great old warrior. The cut difinitely fukked up the fight.

Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft

Originally Posted by mnmc10

if an accidental headbutt occured within 4 rounds then if it gets stopped its a no contest right? but if a cut bad enough to stop the fight was caused by a punch then thats a tko?

Technically yeah. But it would have been a different story if the headbutt didn't occur. I think most people including me (expecially Barrera fans) were expecting a JMM-JDiaz ending.. where the younger fighter was dominant in early rounds and gets schooled in later round by a great old warrior. The cut difinitely fukked up the fight.

I thought that too until i saw what Khan's gameplan was. To outspeed him close then leap away. Diaz pretty much went balls to the wall against Marquez and slugged it out with him. Khan was fighting a much smarter fight so he may have still won the decision. If they rematch Khan will win again with no controversy...until people flood here and say that Barerra was waay past it and should have retired.