Thread: The fight we all wish we could have seen.

Tyson vs Ali what do you think the outcome would have been personaly i think tyson would have won in his brief prime even if ali was in his prime.

I've got loads lol

Chavez v Duran
Whitaker v PBF
Bowe v Lewis v Holmes
Pryor v Tszyu

list goes on and on........

SRR v SRL Welter
Hagler v Monzon
Foster v Spinks
Galzaghe v Jones - prime
Chevaz v Tszyu - prime

Clazaghe v Froch

Jones would've trashed Calzaghe in his prime, but I dont think the OP meant that, did he. I think he meant who would have won. I personally think Ali would have done it. Tyson's opponents often came in with the wrong gameplan. Either that or they couldn't stick to it. The plan to beat Tyson was:

Throw the jab which he will certainly bob-and-weave to escape then throw a right uppercut or hook and catch him as he comes in. Ali was good at this especially in his prime when he could do this the quickly get out before Mike could do anything.

mosley-trinidad
tyson-ali
gatti-ward IV
fraizer-liston
forman-lewis
mosley-robinson
tyson-douglas II
ect..

Meldrick Taylor vs Aaron Pryor vs Pernell Whitaker vs Floyd Mayweather vs SSR. Mix and match...

Floyd Mayweather vs Mosley at lightweight
DUran-Mosley lightweight
Pep-Armstrong
Ali-Lennox Lewis
Tua-Prime Tyson
Tua-Frazier
Tua-Foreman
Cotto-Trinidad at WW
Trinidad-Duran WW
Hearns-RJJ MW
Hagler-RJJ 164
Jimmy Wilde-Lopez
Greb-Calzaghe
Jones-Holyfield at CW
Mayweather-Jones p4p
Mayweather-Pacquiao
Mayweather- Leonard
Mayweather-RObinson
Robinson-Leonard
Robinson-Mosley
Hagler-Lamotta
Hagler-Monzon
Hopkins-Hagler
Hopkins-Monzon
Hopkins-Hearns MW
Leonard-RJJ MW
Mayweather-Whitaker
Whitaker-Benitez
Mayweather-Benitez
Mayweather-JMM
JLC-Arguello LW
Corrales-Arguello 130
Pacquiao-Pep
Pacquiao-Armstrong
Pacquiao-Saddler
Pacquiao-Wilfredo Gomez
JMM-Barrera prime
JMM-MOrales prime
JMM-Lopez p4p

There are more but I have to go to bed.

Ali would have had Tyson. He was too smart & cocky to lose. Tyson was all about his opponents being afraid of him, similar to Sonny Liston in that respect, Ali had too much confidence to be afraid. If he could take the left hooks of Frazier, and the punches of Shavers & Foreman (possibly after his prime) then I think he could easily take those of Tyson's. Prime against Prime, I say Ali takes it by either a late KO or a UD. The only Heavies who I think might beat a prime Ali were Louis, Holmes and Frazier. Those years out of the ring took something away from Ali.

ali vs louis

Liston - Frazier

This would be an awesome match sparks would fly from round 1. I'd have to back Frazier.

Originally Posted by JazMerkin

Ali would have had Tyson. He was too smart & cocky to lose. Tyson was all about his opponents being afraid of him, similar to Sonny Liston in that respect, Ali had too much confidence to be afraid. If he could take the left hooks of Frazier, and the punches of Shavers & Foreman (possibly after his prime) then I think he could easily take those of Tyson's. Prime against Prime, I say Ali takes it by either a late KO or a UD. The only Heavies who I think might beat a prime Ali were Louis, Holmes and Frazier. Those years out of the ring took something away from Ali.

Interesting. Especially when you consider a fighters prime and that Henry Cooper had him glassy eyed, who knows how history would have been different if not for the cheating. Clay/Ali dropped by Cooper but withstood Frazier/Shavers/Foreman vs a fast powerful short puncher like Tyson.

Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy

Originally Posted by JazMerkin

Ali would have had Tyson. He was too smart & cocky to lose. Tyson was all about his opponents being afraid of him, similar to Sonny Liston in that respect, Ali had too much confidence to be afraid. If he could take the left hooks of Frazier, and the punches of Shavers & Foreman (possibly after his prime) then I think he could easily take those of Tyson's. Prime against Prime, I say Ali takes it by either a late KO or a UD. The only Heavies who I think might beat a prime Ali were Louis, Holmes and Frazier. Those years out of the ring took something away from Ali.

Interesting. Especially when you consider a fighters prime and that Henry Cooper had him glassy eyed, who knows how history would have been different if not for the cheating. Clay/Ali dropped by Cooper but withstood Frazier/Shavers/Foreman vs a fast powerful short puncher like Tyson.

Yeah, but all great fighters have those moments if they're coming up against top-class opposition, which is what Cooper was. Can you imagine any prospect now fighting a guy of Cooper's class? What do you mean by the cheating? Is that the vial or the mythical 5 minutes/seconds? But I stand by it, I think if anything that fight made Ali what he was in his prime.

This time last year we were all creaming ourselves over a potential cotto-mayweather match and that would of indeed been something special.

Hopkins-vs-Tyson/Liston/Foreman/Shavers/Frazier/Lewis