Thread: Seems Cotto may have already found a new trainer....

There are speculations that Cotto wanted to move his training camp to Florida and that's where the argument began, seems that Cotto might be goin with Birmingham at least for the Clottey fight

read this quote in Yahoo's Kevin Iole's column

"One man who will be considered, and who may even be the front-runner, is two-time Trainer of the Year Dan Birmingham, who is based in Tampa, Fla. Cotto plans to fly to Tampa on Wednesday to begin camp."

interesting choice, not a bad trainer but i wouldn't exactly call Dan elite

Seeing that Dan was trainer of the year a few years ago, and had the #2 Supermiddle and #1 juniormiddle, #2 middle (Winky Wright) not a bad choice. Dan seems to be a fighters coach. Business is Business in the gym and in the ring, but really cultivates a bond with his fighters and a down to earthness.. Evangelista always looked sinister, ornery and militant.

Even though Cotto is a bon fied superstar, I feel like he still has another level and with his combatitive relationship with his uncle would never reach that level.

All the greats that I can think of had a great bond with their trainer and trust, to go into the trenches and can get the most out of their fighter especially when adversity pops up.

I could be talking out of my ass here

Even though their was a translator in the corner for his margarito fight, I was curious to here every word to see how his corner was handling the adversity.. Seem like his Uncle was useless and couldnt come up with anything, nor did he even care... Always seem like a very sterile tough love between those 2... Like I said, not really sure what is said most of the time because of the language barrier, but it was apparent by their body language all the time that a change needed to take place.

Originally Posted by JT Rock

Seeing that Dan was trainer of the year a few years ago, and had the #2 Supermiddle and #1 juniormiddle, #2 middle (Winky Wright) not a bad choice. Dan seems to be a fighters coach. Business is Business in the gym and in the ring, but really cultivates a bond with his fighters and a down to earthness.. Evangelista always looked sinister, ornery and militant.

Even though Cotto is a bon fied superstar, I feel like he still has another level and with his combatitive relationship with his uncle would never reach that level.

All the greats that I can think of had a great bond with their trainer and trust, to go into the trenches and can get the most out of their fighter especially when adversity pops up.

I could be talking out of my ass here

Even though their was a translator in the corner for his margarito fight, I was curious to here every word to see how his corner was handling the adversity.. Seem like his Uncle was useless and couldnt come up with anything, nor did he even care... Always seem like a very sterile tough love between those 2... Like I said, not really sure what is said most of the time because of the language barrier, but it was apparent by their body language all the time that a change needed to take place.

Evangelista is a tough SOB with everyone that's just is demeanor, but Cotto is exactly the same way, so is his brother, both are too damn stubborn, that's why they shouldn't be working together, but Evangelista is still a very good trainer especially for a man who never fought, and in the Margarito fight i remember him telling Miguel to go to the body more

well said JT Rock. My thoughts exactly. I believe mutual respect between trainer and fighter is necessary for growth.

I think this was a very wise decision for Cotto.

Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

Originally Posted by JT Rock

Seeing that Dan was trainer of the year a few years ago, and had the #2 Supermiddle and #1 juniormiddle, #2 middle (Winky Wright) not a bad choice. Dan seems to be a fighters coach. Business is Business in the gym and in the ring, but really cultivates a bond with his fighters and a down to earthness.. Evangelista always looked sinister, ornery and militant.

Even though Cotto is a bon fied superstar, I feel like he still has another level and with his combatitive relationship with his uncle would never reach that level.

All the greats that I can think of had a great bond with their trainer and trust, to go into the trenches and can get the most out of their fighter especially when adversity pops up.

I could be talking out of my ass here

Even though their was a translator in the corner for his margarito fight, I was curious to here every word to see how his corner was handling the adversity.. Seem like his Uncle was useless and couldnt come up with anything, nor did he even care... Always seem like a very sterile tough love between those 2... Like I said, not really sure what is said most of the time because of the language barrier, but it was apparent by their body language all the time that a change needed to take place.

Evangelista is a tough SOB with everyone that's just is demeanor, but Cotto is exactly the same way, so is his brother, both are too damn stubborn, that's why they shouldn't be working together, but Evangelista is still a very good trainer especially for a man who never fought, and in the Margarito fight i remember him telling Miguel to go to the body more

When he should have been telling Cotto to tie Margarito up more, going to the body would have been set up eventually, but he needed to stop Margarito from throwing punches like Mosley did, and his movement alone wasn't good enough, thus clinching was his only option, and he's terrible at it.

I like the fact that Cotto does not hold. That is the mark of a true warrior. But in boxing, it is sometimes necessary and recently Mosley does it the best and the most strategically and Hatton does it the most annoyingly. Cotto ain't no biatch, but he should definitely hold a bit more, though he has rarely had to do so other than with Corley, Torres, and Margarito.

If Cotto and his uncle disagreed on moving to Florida to train, I see it as a good omen for Cotto. Seems to me that Cotto is taking his training seriously if he decided to move away from the comforts of home and train on the road, where it seems like he has no choice but to focus. The fact that he came to that decision independent of the controlling Evangelista gives me a lot of confidence that he will be victorious on the night he fights Clottey.

Cotto speaks good English and understands it well, which should help him work well with English speaking trainers. And Cotto has the skills to work with any trainer, whether it is a boxer oriented one like McGirt or this Birmingham fella.

Cotto holds basically when he's hurt, like he did against Corley, Judah, etc. and i agree that his defense would be a lot more well rounded if he would clinch effectively

Think if Clottey beats Cotto that people will say that the family troubles gave a big mental toll on Cotto?

Originally Posted by Majesty

Think if Clottey beats Cotto that people will say that the family troubles gave a big mental toll on Cotto?

if they do it'll be bullshit, Miguel is always completely focused and just like Mosley did against Margarito, he was able to put his personal problems aside
this isn't the first time Cotto has had family probs with an upcoming fight already scheduled, there was one case that there was a whole paternity dispute, come fight night it didn't phaze him one bit

Originally Posted by Majesty

Think if Clottey beats Cotto that people will say that the family troubles gave a big mental toll on Cotto?

You know I will and Chino and I will get into like always

Originally Posted by Danny_G

Originally Posted by Majesty

Think if Clottey beats Cotto that people will say that the family troubles gave a big mental toll on Cotto?

You know I will and Chino and I will get into like always

I'll be sure to bring the popcorn

There were reports that Cotto's new trainer will be the veteran cutman/cornerman Miguel Diaz...
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Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

There were reports that Cotto's new trainer will be the veteran cutman/cornerman Miguel Diaz...
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wouldn't be out of the question he's been Cotto's cutman in the past

Cotto's style might be suited for Roach or Steward to train as those guys learned from Eddie Futch....maybe Nacho would help him out

Originally Posted by JT Rock

Seeing that Dan was trainer of the year a few years ago, and had the #2 Supermiddle and #1 juniormiddle, #2 middle (Winky Wright) not a bad choice. Dan seems to be a fighters coach. Business is Business in the gym and in the ring, but really cultivates a bond with his fighters and a down to earthness.. Evangelista always looked sinister, ornery and militant.

Even though Cotto is a bon fied superstar, I feel like he still has another level and with his combatitive relationship with his uncle would never reach that level.

All the greats that I can think of had a great bond with their trainer and trust, to go into the trenches and can get the most out of their fighter especially when adversity pops up.

I could be talking out of my ass here

Even though their was a translator in the corner for his margarito fight, I was curious to here every word to see how his corner was handling the adversity.. Seem like his Uncle was useless and couldnt come up with anything, nor did he even care... Always seem like a very sterile tough love between those 2... Like I said, not really sure what is said most of the time because of the language barrier, but it was apparent by their body language all the time that a change needed to take place.

I think you're pretty accurate in your assessment. Evangelista doesn't get along with either nephew. I remember the shoving incident between him and Miguel's brother Jose a couple of years back. In any case, I'm not too fond of having family members in the corner for too long. I even think Tito's father outstayed his welcome in Tito's corner. Too bad nobody in Tito's camp ever saw it that way. And about Cotto having another level and someone else bringing it out of him, you might be right on that one also.