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What are the 5 best rare fights of all time?
Another way of asking this is what are the five (and only five) best (most exciting) closet classics of all time. Fights of the Year are, by definition, not closet classics; they are classics. Gatti vs Ward is a classic, but Gatti vs. Green is a closet classic, for example.
“If you want loyalty, buy a dog.” Ricky Hatton
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Re: What are the 5 best rare fights of all time?
Here are my five in no special order:
LeRoy Murphys vs.Chisanda Mutti
Roy "Tiger" Williams vs. Ernie Shavers
Micky Ward vs Reggie Green
Leland Hardy vs. Ike Padilla
And my all-time favorite- Tim Rabon vs. William "The Hammer" Jones.
“If you want loyalty, buy a dog.” Ricky Hatton
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Re: What are the 5 best rare fights of all time?
Kevin Kelley vs Troy Dorsey (on youtube great fight with about 2300 punches thrown all together).
George Foreman vs Ron Lyle (i consider this a closet classic as such few people talk about it and both were down multiple times).
Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Phillip Ndou (great fight, probably PBF's most entertaining one. Ndou's heart and courage made it fairly competetive).
Julio Cesar Chavez vs Juan Laporte (not to many times when either were hurt however constant action and rare to see a man not run from JCC).
Marco Antonio Barrera vs Kennedy Mckinley (On youtube. Overlooked as people focus on Hamed and Morales fights. Brilliant fight which confirmed for the doubters Barrera's greatness).
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Re: What are the 5 best rare fights of all time?
Originally Posted by Motor City Cobra
But with all respect. I submit Lyle-Foreman is a classic-not a rare closet classic.
“If you want loyalty, buy a dog.” Ricky Hatton
Re: What are the 5 best rare fights of all time?
I'll mention a few that hasn't been mentioned.
Julio Cesar Gonzalez vs Julian Letterlough
Alfonzo Zamora vs Alberto Sandoval
Bob Foster vs Andy Kendall
I'll think of more later.
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Re: What are the 5 best rare fights of all time?
Never seen any you mention here so I think it's time to do some file searching.
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tyson ruddock I
Bowe Golota I
Lewis Mercer
Holyfield Seldon
Morrison Hipp
am i on the right line here
Re: What are the 5 best rare fights of all time?
Well i've seen 4 of them on his list, Lee Roy Murphy fight is an all out brawl. With a Rocky 2 like ending.Never seen any you mention here so I think it's time to do some file searching.
I don't see what the fuss is about Roy Williams vs Earnie Shavers, i found that to be pretty mediocre until the last round.
Micky Ward vs Reggie Green a really good fight, but so are all of Micky Wards fights. He had some underrated fights with Alfonso Sanchez, Shea Neary, Antonio Diaz.
Leland Hardy vs Ike Padilla is a great little slugfest, where they trade knockdowns. Short but very sweet, have no idea about the last fight though never seen it.
Re: What are the 5 best rare fights of all time?
Riddick Bowe/Andrew Golota 2 was a better fight, plus thats well known. So is Mike Tyson/Razor Ruddock, plus the rematch was also better aswell. They are not closet classics.tyson ruddock I
Bowe Golota I
Lewis Mercer
Holyfield Seldon
Morrison Hipp
am i on the right line here
I didn't think Evander Holyfield ever fought anyone called Seldon, maybe you can tell me the first name.
The others i agree on Lennox Lewis's most underrated fight, and his most exciting one. Tommy Morris vs Joe Hipp was pretty brutal aswell.
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my mistake it wasnt seldon it was bert cooperRiddick Bowe/Andrew Golota 2 was a better fight, plus thats well known. So is Mike Tyson/Razor Ruddock, plus the rematch was also better aswell. They are not closet classics.tyson ruddock I
Bowe Golota I
Lewis Mercer
Holyfield Seldon
Morrison Hipp
am i on the right line here
I didn't think Evander Holyfield ever fought anyone called Seldon, maybe you can tell me the first name.
The others i agree on Lennox Lewis's most underrated fight, and his most exciting one. Tommy Morris vs Joe Hipp was pretty brutal aswell.
i prefer tyson ruddock 1 thanks & also bowe golota 1
Re: What are the 5 best rare fights of all time?
Yes the Bert Cooper fight was a good one, so was the Michael Dokes fight.my mistake it wasnt seldon it was bert cooperRiddick Bowe/Andrew Golota 2 was a better fight, plus thats well known. So is Mike Tyson/Razor Ruddock, plus the rematch was also better aswell. They are not closet classics.tyson ruddock I
Bowe Golota I
Lewis Mercer
Holyfield Seldon
Morrison Hipp
am i on the right line here
I didn't think Evander Holyfield ever fought anyone called Seldon, maybe you can tell me the first name.
The others i agree on Lennox Lewis's most underrated fight, and his most exciting one. Tommy Morris vs Joe Hipp was pretty brutal aswell.
i prefer tyson ruddock 1 thanks & also bowe golota 1
Mike Tyson vs Razor Ruddock 1 was too one sided for my liking, the 2nd one was much better and much more competitive and brutal.
Andrew Golota vs Riddick Bowe 2 was better because of the knockdowns, it was more dramatic although the later rounds were hard to watch. But thats just my opinion not saying your wrong its all about personal taste.
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Re: What are the 5 best rare fights of all time?
why are ruddock tyson & bowe golota 1 known more than other 3 that much?my mistake it wasnt seldon it was bert cooperRiddick Bowe/Andrew Golota 2 was a better fight, plus thats well known. So is Mike Tyson/Razor Ruddock, plus the rematch was also better aswell. They are not closet classics.tyson ruddock I
Bowe Golota I
Lewis Mercer
Holyfield Seldon
Morrison Hipp
am i on the right line here
I didn't think Evander Holyfield ever fought anyone called Seldon, maybe you can tell me the first name.
The others i agree on Lennox Lewis's most underrated fight, and his most exciting one. Tommy Morris vs Joe Hipp was pretty brutal aswell.
i prefer tyson ruddock 1 thanks & also bowe golota 1
Re: What are the 5 best rare fights of all time?
Well pretty much every boxing fans knows about Riddick Bowe/Andrew Golota, because of the low blow controversy.why are ruddock tyson & bowe golota 1 known more than other 3 that much?my mistake it wasnt seldon it was bert cooper
i prefer tyson ruddock 1 thanks & also bowe golota 1
Razor Ruddock/Mike Tyson is well known because Mike Tyson was rocked, which many people were shocked about. And because of the controversial stoppage.
Not many people bring up Lennox Lewis vs Ray Mercer, it was a close fight and Lennox Lewis's most exciting fight. Probably one of his most underrated performances.
I guess you can make an argument, Evander Holyfield vs Bert Cooper. Has become more well known in the past few years, but its still not as talked about as some of Evander Holyfield's other performances, and its still underrated IMO.
And i've hardly seen anyone mention Tommy Morrison vs Joe Hipp, that is for certain a closet classic.
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Re: What are the 5 best rare fights of all time?
Well i've seen 4 of them on his list, Lee Roy Murphy fight is an all out brawl. With a Rocky 2 like ending.Never seen any you mention here so I think it's time to do some file searching.
I don't see what the fuss is about Roy Williams vs Earnie Shavers, i found that to be pretty mediocre until the last round.
Micky Ward vs Reggie Green a really good fight, but so are all of Micky Wards fights. He had some underrated fights with Alfonso Sanchez, Shea Neary, Antonio Diaz.
Leland Hardy vs Ike Padilla is a great little slugfest, where they trade knockdowns. Short but very sweet, have no idea about the last fight though never seen it.
The last two rounds of Wliiams-Shavers is more than enough to fit any bill IMO (which by the way was what this was all about-an opinion). Ward-Green (I was ringside) was incredible.
“If you want loyalty, buy a dog.” Ricky Hatton
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Re: What are the 5 best rare fights of all time?
On March 10, 1992, welterweight Tim Rabon met Philadelphian William
“The Hammer” Jones at the Blue Horizon in Philadelphia in a 4-rounder that was televised on Tuesday Night fights as part of a bigger venue. Those who were fortunate enough to see this one will never forget it.
Rabon was 13-7-2 at the time. Jones was 18-0 but his only notable win was a KO over Rafael Williams, and his overall level of opposition was very poor. In fact, only five opponents had winning records. As well, most of the Hammer’s fights took place in the friendly confines of the Blue Horizon Rabon, out of Broussard, Louisiana, had duked with much better fighters, but had just fair success. He was knocked out by Santos Cardona and Tyrone Moore,fought a draw with then undefeated Chad Parker (19-0), split a pair of SD’s with Jason Watters, and lost on points to Kevin Pompey, Reggie Miller and the very capable Aussie Jeff “Flash” Malcom (for
the IBC Welterweight Title). Malcom was 77-21-10 at the time.
One other thing, Rabon was a National Golden Gloves Champion in 1984 (along with such notables as Ronnie Essett, Virgil Hill, Evander Holyfield and Mike Tyson). On paper, the undefeated Jones looked ripe for the picking.
The fight was a barnburner during the first two rounds with both tall and skinny fighters wasted no time as they teed off on each other with long and looping shots that had deadly intentions written all over them. The punishment absorbed by both fighters was alarming, and those at ringside were sprayed by the sweat as each thundering shot came down the pike. Then, in the incredible third round, things heated up fast as “The Hammer” lived up to his nickname by flooring and punishing Rabon in the early going and appeared to be on his way to a crunching finish.
But miraculously, Rabon caught Jones with a solid hook that had him hurt and hanging on. He then floored him and when he got up, stalked him down like a Tiger sensing a fresh kill and floored him again. But in so doing, he used up serious energy and Jones knew it. Indeed, Rabon had punched himself out and was now helpless and ready to be hammered into submission, but time was running out.
With seconds to go in the round, Jones backed Rabon into a corner and took him out with a single debilitating shot to the liver. The bell had rung but Tim could not get up. He was counted out four seconds after the round was over. These nine minutes of unmitigated mayhem featured everything: give and take, ebb and flow, courage, determination and ferocity. Rabon would lose most of his remaining fights against very creditable opposition and finished with a slate of 14-12-2.
Jones would never be the same losing two of his next four. Both defeats came at the hands of another Philadelphian, ultra tough Eric Holland. His
final record was 21-2 and he retired in 1994 after being KOd by
Holland in 1995.
The career of both would be defined by what happened at the Blue Horizon on March 10, 1992. They call it the “Legendary Blue Horizon" and fights like this contributed greatly to that Moniker.
Postscript: Beau Williford, Tim’s proud manager/trainer, recently shared this poignant email message:
“My boxer Timmy Rabon (MAY HE REST IN PEACE) who passed away a few months ago from Lou Gehrig’s disease, was one of the most fun guys I ever had the opportunity to work with. Timmy [a two-time National Golden Gloves Champion] said the reason he lost to Jones was the altitude, the ring was very high he joked. He jokingly said he was not in shape to climb five steps.
One Christmas Eve, (1989 I think) Timmy called me to borrow some money to buy presents for his children. He wanted to borrow $50.00 and I told him NO! Astonished he said Beau I promise to pay you back. I then told him I would not loan him $50.00, but would loan him $300.00. I waited for over two hours for him to show up but he never did. He phoned me to tell me he had two dollars when he left to come to my house and stopped at a gas station to put a dollars worth of gas in his car and then decided to take a chance on a $10,000.00 lottery ticket. He purchased the winning lottery ticket and asked me if I needed any Christmas money!!!
A truly wonderful guy who I am sure is entertaining the angels with his great stories.”
“If you want loyalty, buy a dog.” Ricky Hatton
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