Thread: Juan (the blubbery seal) Diaz avoiding Malignaggi rematch

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Malignaggi did more than enough to win his fight with Diaz and was plain as day robbed. Golden Boy and Diaz should have the common decency and courtesy of giving Malignaggi an instant rematch, but instead they run looking for pots of treasure.

I dislike Richard Schaefer who appears to be nothing more than Golden Boys resident propagandist. He comes across as a horribly plastic human being. And Diaz reminds me of nothing more than an overactive blubbery seal. You just need to draw some blood and then harpoon him.

Malignaggi is stylistically difficult and Diaz simply doesn't want to try and work him out. It annoys me when fighters refuse to acknowledge boxing robberies by refusing rematches.

Originally Posted by miles

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Malignaggi did more than enough to win his fight with Diaz and was plain as day robbed. Golden Boy and Diaz should have the common decency and courtesy of giving Malignaggi an instant rematch, but instead they run looking for pots of treasure.

I dislike Richard Schaefer who appears to be nothing more than Golden Boys resident propagandist. He comes across as a horribly plastic human being. And Diaz reminds me of nothing more than an overactive blubbery seal. You just need to draw some blood and then harpoon him.

Malignaggi is stylistically difficult and Diaz simply doesn't want to try and work him out. It annoys me when fighters refuse to acknowledge boxing robberies by refusing rematches.

It was not a robbery by any stretch of the imagination, it was a close fight that could've gone either way; Malignaggi said so himself. The scores were completely out of whack, but a legitimate argument can be made that Diaz won the fight. I had him winning by one round.

The majority of people thought Malignaggi won the fight. Here's a poll Fight News did after the fight. Those who thought it could go either way or that Diaz won are in the minority.

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I thought Malignaggi outworked Diaz quite convincingly and has a very good case for a rematch on his own turf. It's a shame that The blubbery seal has no desire to prove the public wrong.

Originally Posted by miles

The majority of people thought Malignaggi won the fight. Here's a poll Fight News did after the fight. Those who thought it could go either way or that Diaz won are in the minority.

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I thought Malignaggi outworked Diaz quite convincingly and has a very good case for a rematch on his own turf. It's a shame that The blubbery seal has no desire to prove the public wrong.

That doesn't make it a robbery.

Originally Posted by CFH

Originally Posted by miles

The majority of people thought Malignaggi won the fight. Here's a poll Fight News did after the fight. Those who thought it could go either way or that Diaz won are in the minority.

Diaz-Malignaggi Quick Poll | Fightnews - Boxing News Updated 24/7

I thought Malignaggi outworked Diaz quite convincingly and has a very good case for a rematch on his own turf. It's a shame that The blubbery seal has no desire to prove the public wrong.

That doesn't make it a robbery.

You can argue semantics all you like. I think it was a robbery.

And one of the great post fight interviews. Malignaggi admits it was close, but he is right in that he did outbox Diaz. He says he was robbed too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTnhWoFXgr0

Originally Posted by miles

Originally Posted by CFH

Originally Posted by miles

The majority of people thought Malignaggi won the fight. Here's a poll Fight News did after the fight. Those who thought it could go either way or that Diaz won are in the minority.

Diaz-Malignaggi Quick Poll | Fightnews - Boxing News Updated 24/7

I thought Malignaggi outworked Diaz quite convincingly and has a very good case for a rematch on his own turf. It's a shame that The blubbery seal has no desire to prove the public wrong.

That doesn't make it a robbery.

You can argue semantics all you like. I think it was a robbery.

A close fight that could have gone either way by it's very definition is not a robbery. It has nothing to do with arguing semantics.

I can't help but wonder how would Diaz fare against Hatton.

Many people were criticizing Pac for fighting David Diaz instead of Juan and now that Juan was exposed, I can't help but also wonder what would have happened had he (Juan) fought against Pac.


edit: Hello there miles. Long time no talk.

Originally Posted by CFH

Originally Posted by miles

Originally Posted by CFH

That doesn't make it a robbery.

You can argue semantics all you like. I think it was a robbery.

A close fight that could have gone either way by it's very definition is not a robbery. It has nothing to do with arguing semantics.

Well, we will just have to agree to disagree on this fight then. It was a relatively close fight, but Malignaggi outworked Diaz down the stretch and fought the smarter fight for me. He deserved the win.

I'm sure neither of us could disagree that a rematch would be a decent fight and that it would be fair to have it outside of Texas. It doesn't seem to be on the cards though.

Originally Posted by brucelee

I can't help but wonder how would Diaz fare against Hatton.

Many people were criticizing Pac for fighting David Diaz instead of Juan and now that Juan was exposed, I can't help but also wonder what would have happened had he (Juan) fought against Pac.


edit: Hello there miles. Long time no talk.

Now then Bruce. You are obviously missing me...

I wouldn't mind seeing Hatton/Diaz either. I just can't see Hatton coming back now though. It will have been a year since Pac before he is in any way ready to get near the ring again and I can't see that being good for someone who sups and eats like Hatton.

I would have much preferred Pac to fight Juan rather than David Diaz too. Would have been exciting while it lasted, whereas David Diaz was just a totally one sided beat down.

Not that Pacquiao has anything to do with this thread, but he would've absolutely smoked Diaz, who never would have seen his punches coming. It probably would have been more competitive that the other Diaz' fight, but it wouldn't have lasted as long.

Originally Posted by miles

Originally Posted by brucelee

I can't help but wonder how would Diaz fare against Hatton.

Many people were criticizing Pac for fighting David Diaz instead of Juan and now that Juan was exposed, I can't help but also wonder what would have happened had he (Juan) fought against Pac.


edit: Hello there miles. Long time no talk.

Now then Bruce. You are obviously missing me...

I wouldn't mind seeing Hatton/Diaz either. I just can't see Hatton coming back now though. It will have been a year since Pac before he is in any way ready to get near the ring again and I can't see that being good for someone who sups and eats like Hatton.

I would have much preferred Pac to fight Juan rather than David Diaz too. Would have been exciting while it lasted, whereas David Diaz was just a totally one sided beat down.

I miss the gay talk from you. LOL.

Originally Posted by CFH

Not that Pacquiao has anything to do with this thread, but he would've absolutely smoked Diaz, who never would have seen his punches coming. It probably would have been more competitive that the other Diaz' fight, but it wouldn't have lasted as long.

LOL. Sorry for including Pac in this thread. I could not start a thread about it so with the spur of the moment I just have to ask about it.

David Diaz was a reasonable fight for Pac as he was the man who beat Erik Morales though I personally see that fight as a robbery on Erik's legacy.

Another question that has been in my mind is, how long would Juan last against Pac.

Regarding my question on Hatton vs Diaz, I'm wondering how would Diaz fare against Hatton given that Hatton handled Malignaggi easily.Of course styles make fight but given HAtton and Diaz' ability, styles won't really be a big factor here.

Damn Miles, robbery? WTF? NO, that was no robbery in fact the 117-110 scorecard was more in line (imo) then any scorecard that has Malignaggi ahead. Please go rewatch that fight and alert me when Malignaggi lands a significant fight EVER. When you're not powerful, you're not ACCURATE (which hasn't been talked about at all) and you're not slick defensively, wtf are you? Paulie Malignaggi who could fight that same fight a million times and would get the nod 1 out of 10 times, the judges live were right just listen to the difference of sound in the punches. I had it 116-112 and scoring it any closer would require giving Malignaggi rounds where he did NOTHING offensively. I don't want a rematch.

Originally Posted by amat

Damn Miles, robbery? WTF? NO, that was no robbery in fact the 117-110 scorecard was more in line (imo) then any scorecard that has Malignaggi ahead. Please go rewatch that fight and alert me when Malignaggi lands a significant fight EVER. When you're not powerful, you're not ACCURATE (which hasn't been talked about at all) and you're not slick defensively, wtf are you? Paulie Malignaggi who could fight that same fight a million times and would get the nod 1 out of 10 times, the judges live were right just listen to the difference of sound in the punches. I had it 116-112 and scoring it any closer would require giving Malignaggi rounds where he did NOTHING offensively. I don't want a rematch.

I watched the fight this morning, so it's pretty fresh in my mind. I had it about the same as when I watched it live too. I have no idea how you scored it 8 rounds to 4 in favour of Diaz.

Malignaggi was able to do what he wanted more than what Diaz was able to do. Malignaggi was throwing 80-100 punches a round and though less accurate than Diaz was able to fight his own fight with his movement, sharp jab and quick combos. Malignaggi boxed the ears off Diaz down the stretch, though do I think the 12th went to Diaz. Malignaggi might have less power, but he dictated more of the rounds.

The judges were too busy listening to the will of the home crowd rather than trying to adjudicate a fair fight. The scorecards were way off.