Thread: Would the Jermain Taylor that beat Hopkins have lost last night?

I say no. He looks totally ring worn now but at the same time I don't want to take anything away from Abraham, I went Taylor and I put money on Taylor and I was well and truly wrong!! Abraham took Taylor out in good fashion and it kind of reminded me of a Hagler type performance.

taylor looked absolutely utter shit last night tbh.

I want to know if Taylor beats Hopkins now...

Originally Posted by Jammie dogger

I want to know if Taylor beats Hopkins now...

No chance

I thought that Taylor would win but AA is very under rated. Still think the Taylor that beat Hopkins would have won. Taylor is shot to pieces.

No.

Hopkins doesn't have Abrahams power.

I feel sorry for Taylor though, he's a nice guy and has had a decent career. I hope he calls it a day.

Arthur Abraham fought the way I said he would. He gave up rounds 1-4 just as I said, but I had no idea his power was going to carry up like that.

Jermain has ALWAYS had trouble in the closing moments of fights and early in his career I attributed that to him loading up too much on those looping overhand rights he would throw...but I think the fact is he just has never been good at pacing himself and when you can't pace yourself and you have poor defense and love to stay "in range" the whole fight it's bad news.

I wonder how a Prime Hopkins would do vs a Prime Abraham...that would have been a chess match AND a battle all rolled into one!

That was a brutal KO. And will alone have lasting effects. Couple that with previous Ko's and you have a man who probably should consider calling it a day.

Abraham, though, that dude has crazy explosive power. He doesn't even use it that much, short bursts, then shells back up but it is effective as hell. If he can explode more often like that in the course of a fight, and add in the guy can still fight on with his broken chin hanging off his skull, that is a scary opponent across from you. Don't care who you are.

No. And I don't know if I'd call last nights Taylor shot though he might be getting that way.

Hopkins was kind of the perfect fight for Taylor in some ways. He couldn't fight three minutes, he probably shouldn't have been fighting at 160 at that point, etc.

Originally Posted by Lyle

I wonder how a Prime Hopkins would do vs a Prime Abraham...that would have been a chess match AND a battle all rolled into one!

What?... you're out of your freaking mind. guys like hopkins, calzaghe would absolutely embarrass abraham. entirely different class of fighter.

Originally Posted by sumkalambay

Originally Posted by Lyle

I wonder how a Prime Hopkins would do vs a Prime Abraham...that would have been a chess match AND a battle all rolled into one!

What?... you're out of your freaking mind. guys like hopkins, calzaghe would absolutely embarrass abraham. entirely different class of fighter.

I wouldn't say different class. Fair enough he has more to prove to be mentioned with these guys but he proved his class last night.

I think Lyle's matchup is interesting although I would go for a points win for B-Hop in his prime of course!

Taylor's wins over Hopkins were more because Hopkins waited until the last 4 rounds to fight, moreso than Taylor being the better fighter.

Originally Posted by rjj tszyu

Originally Posted by sumkalambay

Originally Posted by Lyle

I wonder how a Prime Hopkins would do vs a Prime Abraham...that would have been a chess match AND a battle all rolled into one!

What?... you're out of your freaking mind. guys like hopkins, calzaghe would absolutely embarrass abraham. entirely different class of fighter.

I wouldn't say different class. Fair enough he has more to prove to be mentioned with these guys but he proved his class last night.

I think Lyle's matchup is interesting although I would go for a points win for B-Hop in his prime of course!

wow... abraham has become so fucking overrated. even a prime chris eubank would make a monkey out of abraham. can you imagine how many uppercuts eubank would land on abraham?

Originally Posted by sumkalambay

Originally Posted by rjj tszyu

Originally Posted by sumkalambay

What?... you're out of your freaking mind. guys like hopkins, calzaghe would absolutely embarrass abraham. entirely different class of fighter.

I wouldn't say different class. Fair enough he has more to prove to be mentioned with these guys but he proved his class last night.

I think Lyle's matchup is interesting although I would go for a points win for B-Hop in his prime of course!

wow... abraham has become so fucking overrated. even a prime chris eubank would make a monkey out of abraham. can you imagine how many uppercuts eubank would land on abraham?

First of all Eubank in his prime was another class operator, but AA has an awkward style that seems hard to work out and he has carried all his power up with him, all in all making him a very dangerous fighter!

I thought taylor fought well last night. I had it a very close fight until taylor got ko'd.