Thread: Dirrell deserved to lose. Fact.

You have to be pretty naive if you think Dirrell was going to get the decision, fighting like that, in the other guys backyard.

Come on now.

The fight was a boring, ugly, messy letdown.

Hold, foul, hold, duck/spin round, hold, pose, hold, run, hold.. boring, boring, boring.

Dirrell won the fight but it would have been a travesty had Froch lost.

Originally Posted by Fenster

You have to be pretty naive if you think Dirrell was going to get the decision, fighting like that, in the other guys backyard.

Come on now.

The fight was a boring, ugly, messy letdown.

Hold, foul, hold, duck/spin round, hold, pose, hold, run, hold.. boring, boring, boring.

Dirrell won the fight but it would have been a travesty had Froch lost.

oxymoron.

Froch is shit.

Dirrell didnt start holding and grabbing until Froch started all of his dirty tactics and Dirrell saw that the ref was just letting Froch do whatever he wanted.

I think Dirrell even in loss proved three things:

- Froch has a suspect chin
- Froch's power is overrated
- Froch doesnt have good fundementals and is slow as molasis

I wish Dirrell would have just standed and traded with Froch, he would have gotten froch out of there.

Originally Posted by Hunter

Froch has a suspect chin

Say what?! Firstly how did he prove this, by tapping him on the chin as he was jumping away? And secondly, wouldn't the evidence of the Pascal fight suggest overwise?

Froch is shit, slow, has overrated power and an overrated "grainite" chin. We all knew that beforehand.

But he "won"

Dirrell/Team Dirrell couldn't have expected to win being that negative though. If so they are a very naive outfit. And got what they deserved.

Originally Posted by Fenster

Froch is shit, slow, has overrated power and an overrated "grainite" chin. We all knew that beforehand.

But he "won"

Dirrell/Team Dirrell couldn't have expected to win being that negative though. If so they are a very naive outfit. And got what they deserved.

He won with a bad decision and lost a lot of respect, Froch has terrible skills and everyone knows it and he has no chance of winning the tourney. The family is not naive, if you watched the fight you would know his trainer told him he would not get a decision here and needed a KO. I love that first post from you quoted below.

"Dirrell won the fight but it would have been a travesty had Froch lost."

The travesty is the guy who actually landed some punches lost on the cards.

There were a lot of times where he was punching to the back of the head when Dirrell wasn't even ducking or anything. And even then you should not be allowed to cock your arm up in the air and punch down onto the back of a guy's head Something tells me that's illegal.

But Skel I have no issue with the ref taking a point from Dirrell for holding. Hell take one earlier and keep taking them if he keeps doing it consistently. But you could tell clear as day there was only one fighter the ref was paying attention too. That's pretty obvious when you warn a guy after he's punched in the back of the head four or five times. The ref doesn't have to be British to be incrompetent.

Originally Posted by stebs

Originally Posted by Fenster

Froch is shit, slow, has overrated power and an overrated "grainite" chin. We all knew that beforehand.

But he "won"

Dirrell/Team Dirrell couldn't have expected to win being that negative though. If so they are a very naive outfit. And got what they deserved.

He won with a bad decision and lost a lot of respect, Froch has terrible skills and everyone knows it and he has no chance of winning the tourney. The family is not naive, if you watched the fight you would know his trainer told him he would not get a decision here and needed a KO. I love that first post from you quoted below.

"Dirrell won the fight but it would have been a travesty had Froch lost."

The travesty is the guy who actually landed some punches lost on the cards.

They would have been better off telling him beforehand he wont win a decision fighting so negative instead of telling him he needs a KO in the 12th.

See, proves my point, totally naive.

Originally Posted by Hunter

Dirrell didnt start holding and grabbing until Froch started all of his dirty tactics and Dirrell saw that the ref was just letting Froch do whatever he wanted.

I think Dirrell even in loss proved three things:

- Froch has a suspect chin
- Froch's power is overrated
- Froch doesnt have good fundementals and is slow as molasis

I wish Dirrell would have just standed and traded with Froch, he would have gotten froch out of there.

The trading part I somewhat agree. I actually think there were times that Direll was actually outslugging and hurting Froch.

I wouldn't say Froch has a suspect chin. He has a solid chin at worse.

Taylor and Direll are both not HUGE punchers and Taylor dropped Froch hard and Dirrell seriously wobbled him a fewtimes.....This equals suspect chin....

Originally Posted by Hunter

Dirrell didnt start holding and grabbing until Froch started all of his dirty tactics and Dirrell saw that the ref was just letting Froch do whatever he wanted.

I think Dirrell even in loss proved three things:

- Froch has a suspect chin
- Froch's power is overrated
- Froch doesnt have good fundementals and is slow as molasis

I wish Dirrell would have just standed and traded with Froch, he would have gotten froch out of there.

Agreed.

but the other two i don't think can be questioned with the same authority; is it Froch's lack of power or Dirrell's good chin?... Froch didn't touch the canvas, and was stunned once, maybe twice in the fight and recovered well...and AGAIN, didn't go down.

Getting wobbled by a good punch means you have a suspect chin?

Originally Posted by Fenster

You have to be pretty naive if you think Dirrell was going to get the decision, fighting in the other guys backyard.

Come on now.

The fight was a boring, ugly, messy letdown.

Hold, foul, hold, duck/spin round, hold, pose, hold, run, hold.. boring, boring, boring.

Dirrell won the fight but it would have been a travesty had Froch lost.

100% agree. There was no way Fraud was going to be allowed to lose no matter what. Fraud could of been shut out and still would of got the win. If he would of been dropped they would of been ruled slips. The fix was in from the beginning.

Originally Posted by Fenster

You have to be pretty naive if you think Dirrell was going to get the decision, fighting like that, in the other guys backyard.

Come on now.

The fight was a boring, ugly, messy letdown.

Hold, foul, hold, duck/spin round, hold, pose, hold, run, hold.. boring, boring, boring.

Dirrell won the fight but it would have been a travesty had Froch lost.

didnt dirrell actually THROW more punches then frotch?

Originally Posted by Fenster

You have to be pretty naive if you think Dirrell was going to get the decision, fighting like that, in the other guys backyard.

Come on now.

The fight was a boring, ugly, messy letdown.

Hold, foul, hold, duck/spin round, hold, pose, hold, run, hold.. boring, boring, boring.

Dirrell won the fight but it would have been a travesty had Froch lost.

Didn't get chance to get on here yesterday, got in at 6.30 am after the fight and slept all day.

Haven't managed to watch this on tv yet, but up to round 6 this fight was horrible to watch, I felt that Dirrell was a super middleweight version of Junior Witter and terribly negative, with Froch so wide open and flailing shots and bulling around. It was actually painful to watch for a while. I like Froch as he won't back down to anyone, but when Dirrell actually decided to fight rather than run, hold or fall over he looked fantastic, but he only did that for three rounds maybe four IMO so i'm glad he didn't win. He looked to land on Froch with ease. He was like a switch hitting Mayweather with his running and rope sliding.

Two things after witnessing this live.

1. Froch is going to get knocked out by Mikkel Kessler, and possibly even Arthur Abraham.

2. Dirrell, if he clicks the switch on in his brain much earlier than round 9, atleast 4, from here on in could really pose a threat to absolutely anyone at SMW. His timing, accuracy and speed were fantastic, just no where near enough of it.