Thread: Who wins the super middle tourny?

Who wins the super middle tourny? I think Kessler has a good shot at it. Im not overly impressed with any of the fighters in the tourny though. I wish Kessler and Ward werent fighting in the first round. I think those two are the best of the field in my opinion. Abraham is not very good. He is awkward, and looks like he should be in UFC instead of a boxing ring. We all know froch is a joke and lost the first fight. Taylor likely wont even remain in the tourny. Dirrell is a little too inexperienced. He is fast and gifted but just doesnt have the ring experience to win it. He has a lot to learn even though he probably won every round and was robbed vs Froch.

Thoughts?

I think Kessler is the best of the bunch. For me each of the fighters has good qualities, but Kessler is the all round package. Kessler at his best beats any of the other guys.

Originally Posted by miles

I think Kessler is the best of the bunch. For me each of the fighters has good qualities, but Kessler is the all round package. Kessler at his best beats any of the other guys.

Seconded.

Hmm... Abraham is looking good. I still pick Dirrell.

I'm with Big Luke. I think Ward and Kessler are the best two.

Originally Posted by BigLuke

Who wins the super middle tourny? I think Kessler has a good shot at it. Im not overly impressed with any of the fighters in the tourny though. I wish Kessler and Ward werent fighting in the first round. I think those two are the best of the field in my opinion. Abraham is not very good. He is awkward, and looks like he should be in UFC instead of a boxing ring. We all know froch is a joke and lost the first fight. Taylor likely wont even remain in the tourny. Dirrell is a little too inexperienced. He is fast and gifted but just doesnt have the ring experience to win it. He has a lot to learn even though he probably won every round and was robbed vs Froch.

Thoughts?

What makes you say that? I've been impressed with Abraham for some time now.

before it started i pick AA , i stick with my choice

Before the tourney started I was picking Ward. We'll have to see how he copes with Kessler, sure won't be easy an easy fight for Andre, but I was also really impressed with Artur Abraham.

I really underated him, his performance against Jermain was so commanding. He beat him without even breaking a sweat. He's got power, composure, a solid defence, and accurate, well timed punches.

He's going to be very hard to beat in this competition. Interested to see how he handles Dirrell, I expect him to dominate him completely and make him look like a boy.

One thing is for sure, Dirrell will have to come much better against AA than he did against Froch. So it may have been a blessing in disguise that he went through this with Froch. I am going to go with Ward for the sake of picking a winner of the tourney but I think Kessler and AA are the only other ones who can take this.

I'm not entirely sure how they're going to decide the semi's; will it be #1 ranked in the first round table versus #4, or a new draw?

But I wouldn't be suprised if they "fix" it so that there is at least a chance of an American fighter in the final: This doesn't bother me that much as it is a "soft fix" and they are the ones paying for it.

So, I expect Abrahams to face Kessler in one of the semis and Ward to face either Dirrell or Froch (I still think Froch will only pick up two points, but I can only see Dirrell getting two also; does this mean Froch qualifies because he beat Dirrell?)

Now, Ward v Froch should be a good fight with Ward being a strong favourite, mainly due to the fact that Froch will probably be coming in off two defeats: So Andre advances.

Kessler v Abrahams will probably go one of two ways; Kessler be decision or Abrahams by KO. I pick Kessler but Abrahams has a huge chance; and a decision in his favour is not out of the question either.

Ward will be fresher going into the final as he will have had the easiest passage but he still loses comfortably.

I'm sticking with Kessler.

Originally Posted by GuyIncognito76

I'm not entirely sure how they're going to decide the semi's; will it be #1 ranked in the first round table versus #4, or a new draw?

But I wouldn't be suprised if they "fix" it so that there is at least a chance of an American fighter in the final: This doesn't bother me that much as it is a "soft fix" and they are the ones paying for it.

So, I expect Abrahams to face Kessler in one of the semis and Ward to face either Dirrell or Froch (I still think Froch will only pick up two points, but I can only see Dirrell getting two also; does this mean Froch qualifies because he beat Dirrell?)

Now, Ward v Froch should be a good fight with Ward being a strong favourite, mainly due to the fact that Froch will probably be coming in off two defeats: So Andre advances.

Kessler v Abrahams will probably go one of two ways; Kessler be decision or Abrahams by KO. I pick Kessler but Abrahams has a huge chance; and a decision in his favour is not out of the question either.

Ward will be fresher going into the final as he will have had the easiest passage but he still loses comfortably.

I'm sticking with Kessler.

They have said the top ranked fighter will fight the fourth place and the 2nd and 3rd each other.

Extra points scored for knockout will count I imagine.

What I'm interested in is if the 1st fighter gets home advantage against the 4th and the 2nd against the 3rd. Seems fair, but of course that word is not known in boxing.

Originally Posted by Bilbo

They have said the top ranked fighter will fight the fourth place and the 2nd and 3rd each other.

Extra points scored for knockout will count I imagine.

What I'm interested in is if the 1st fighter gets home advantage against the 4th and the 2nd against the 3rd. Seems fair, but of course that word is not known in boxing.

Ah! I would suspect Ward will fight at home even if he should finish fourth.

Originally Posted by blegit

I'm with Big Luke. I think Ward and Kessler are the best two.

I'm down with that too. I think ward will give kessler all he can handle with these too guys being the best. I see kessler beating everybody now. I thought hekd be tested by the power of froch as he'll probably stand and fight him. Now I see froch gettin knocked out. Only thing against ward is he lacks power.

Originally Posted by themacmagician

Only thing against ward is he lacks power.

Calzaghe lacked power and overcame Kessler. Kessler is now more mature and Ward is neither as good nor as experinced as Joe. Having said that I'm looking forward to their fight next month!

I'm going for AA. He looks to have more power with the step up in weight. He didn't even get into second gear against JT. He'll give anyone problems. Plus hometown decisions might help against trickier opponents.