Thread: this is why pacquaio wants specifc test dates

http://www.doghouseboxing.com/DHB/Kim122509.html

great article from victor conte the former head of BALCO, iv mentioned EPO in a few of my posts and it seems he agrees that this a big possibility with pac and explains a little on how the tests can be decieved if the fighters knows when they are set for

Good article, although the link is down. Here's the article:
Conte Weighs In

Does boxing have their own banned substance list or do they just follow the World Anti-Doping Agency list? If it's the latter, doesn't that throw into question the results of all pro boxing matches in recent history?

Originally Posted by sky_set_fire

Does boxing have their own banned substance list or do they just follow the World Anti-Doping Agency list? If it's the latter, doesn't that throw into question the results of all pro boxing matches in recent history?

well i think its slightly different with different commisions and what not, i did read somewere that apparently it is very confusing as to what is legal and what isnt ,also there is no doubt stuff that was ok to use 10 years ago but now isnt

Very good job of Conte simplifying this. The problem is that most of boxing and other sports are very ignorant to how easy announced testing is to beat. And how worthless urine tests are. Even Timothy Bradley thinks the urine tests, which aren't even random at that, that boxing commission do are proving cleanliness of drugs. Considering what team Pac is saying and requesting with the tests it makes Pac sound like an educated steroid user.

Originally Posted by blegit

Very good job of Conte simplifying this. The problem is that most of boxing and other sports are very ignorant to how easy announced testing is to beat. And how worthless urine tests are. Even Timothy Bradley thinks the urine tests, which aren't even random at that, that boxing commission do are proving cleanliness of drugs. Considering what team Pac is saying and requesting with the tests it makes Pac sound like an educated steroid user.

the bradley thing makes me slightly suspiscious, i cant understand why one fighter would give the benefit of the doubt to another considering the nature of the sport,

bradley used to be an amatuer bodybuilder prior to becoming a pro boxer, surley he would be at least a little clued up on this

Blood test at random might mean they mmay take pac's blood 2 days before the actual weigh in weakening him somewhat. This allegations started when dopehead sr. started this and every jealous motherfucker rode the tide. Believe then, as it was easy for you people to believe in the lochness monster. Pac was tested with urine tests before, he was negative. So is a lot of great fighters out there. Why don't they test jmm too, coz he came from 122 before but ko'ed juan diaz at 135, something that suico or katsidis failed to do?

Originally Posted by mad_takamura

Blood test at random might mean they mmay take pac's blood 2 days before the actual weigh in weakening him somewhat. This allegations started when dopehead sr. started this and every jealous motherfucker rode the tide. Believe then, as it was easy for you people to believe in the lochness monster. Pac was tested with urine tests before, he was negative. So is a lot of great fighters out there. Why don't they test jmm too, coz he came from 122 before but ko'ed juan diaz at 135, something that suico or katsidis failed to do?

JMM is twice the fighter of either of those two.... also the weight isnt the issue, JMM slowed down as he has moved up in weight, pac doesnt seem to have done so

and a blood test 2 days before? they are not taking a gallon of blood, only a syringe full for a test... the human body is more than capable of replacing that within 24 hours

Originally Posted by hitmanhatton

Originally Posted by mad_takamura

Blood test at random might mean they mmay take pac's blood 2 days before the actual weigh in weakening him somewhat. This allegations started when dopehead sr. started this and every jealous motherfucker rode the tide. Believe then, as it was easy for you people to believe in the lochness monster. Pac was tested with urine tests before, he was negative. So is a lot of great fighters out there. Why don't they test jmm too, coz he came from 122 before but ko'ed juan diaz at 135, something that suico or katsidis failed to do?

JMM is twice the fighter of either of those two.... also the weight isnt the issue, JMM slowed down as he has moved up in weight, pac doesnt seem to have done so

and a blood test 2 days before? they are not taking a gallon of blood, only a syringe full for a test... the human body is more than capable of replacing that within 24 hours

Still could weaken you to the actual fight.

have you ever had a blood test? It's not an arm full.

Random should mean random.

if you were an aneamic child maybe, not a fit healthy grown adult

Originally Posted by mad_takamura

Originally Posted by hitmanhatton

Originally Posted by mad_takamura

Blood test at random might mean they mmay take pac's blood 2 days before the actual weigh in weakening him somewhat. This allegations started when dopehead sr. started this and every jealous motherfucker rode the tide. Believe then, as it was easy for you people to believe in the lochness monster. Pac was tested with urine tests before, he was negative. So is a lot of great fighters out there. Why don't they test jmm too, coz he came from 122 before but ko'ed juan diaz at 135, something that suico or katsidis failed to do?

JMM is twice the fighter of either of those two.... also the weight isnt the issue, JMM slowed down as he has moved up in weight, pac doesnt seem to have done so

and a blood test 2 days before? they are not taking a gallon of blood, only a syringe full for a test... the human body is more than capable of replacing that within 24 hours

Still could weaken you to the actual fight.

and women bleed every month, deal with it pac, quit bitching and dish up the red, you pussy

Originally Posted by hitmanhatton

if you were an aneamic child maybe, not a fit healthy grown adult

Not only a fit, healthy, grown man but an ELITE ATHLETE in peak physical condition... are people honestly telling me that even being genetically and physically superior to 99% of us out there and having his own team of dedicated nutritionists and sports scientists that he can't give a tiny ammount of blood and cope with it?

Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy

Originally Posted by mad_takamura

Originally Posted by hitmanhatton

JMM is twice the fighter of either of those two.... also the weight isnt the issue, JMM slowed down as he has moved up in weight, pac doesnt seem to have done so

and a blood test 2 days before? they are not taking a gallon of blood, only a syringe full for a test... the human body is more than capable of replacing that within 24 hours

Still could weaken you to the actual fight.

and women bleed every month, deal with it pac, quit bitching and dish up the red, you pussy

Is that why Pac is so aggressive and vicious?

Originally Posted by AdamGB

Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy

Originally Posted by mad_takamura

Still could weaken you to the actual fight.

and women bleed every month, deal with it pac, quit bitching and dish up the red, you pussy

Is that why Pac is so aggressive and vicious?

It would be an interesting turn in events now wouldn't it