Thread: Blood test weaken you!?!

This argument particularly irritates me. Let me put this argument to rest!!! Loosing 4mls of blood a few days before a fight does not weaken you! Normal everyday people are regularly donating (something I would encourage more people to do by the way) pints of blood and having no lifestyle change.
Do you have any idea how much fluid you loose training. What happens if a few days before the fight you get a bloody nose sparring? do you call the fight off?
Manny has often been profusely bleeding DURING the fight and that hasn't seemed to affect his performance!
My background is that I'm working as an Emergency Doctor, next year I will be working in Intensive Care and training to do Emergency Retrievals, and then start a career in Trauma Surgery.
If a 90 year old frail lady came into my ED, bleeding out from a big wound and was going into shock from blood loss, and my intern turned round and told me that they didn't take regular bloods because they didn't want to weaken her further, they wouldn't be my intern for long!

It's all been said before. Plenty of athletes take these tests and are fine come competition time. Also, not to mention, your opponent is undergoing the EXACT same testing procedures. Just take the damn tests Manny.

Originally Posted by TheBranMan

It's all been said before. Plenty of athletes take these tests and are fine come competition time. Also, not to mention, your opponent is undergoing the EXACT same testing procedures. Just take the damn tests Manny.

manny said he will so stop the hating now branman. I hope Gayweather accepts Pac's deal today so everything will be settled and everybody can talk about how Gayweather will win over Pac and proven wrong again after the fight.

Originally Posted by brucelee

Originally Posted by TheBranMan

It's all been said before. Plenty of athletes take these tests and are fine come competition time. Also, not to mention, your opponent is undergoing the EXACT same testing procedures. Just take the damn tests Manny.

manny said he will so stop the hating now branman. I hope Gayweather accepts Pac's deal today so everything will be settled and everybody can talk about how Gayweather will win over Pac and proven wrong again after the fight.

Hey, I've said all along that I have nothing against Manny. I have no bias and I'm not black or filo. Any disgruntled opinions I have on the guy are not unfounded (I'm not sure I can say the same about your constant d**k-ridin).

Do you have an article to back up your statement about Manny accepting?

Originally Posted by TheBranMan

Originally Posted by brucelee

Originally Posted by TheBranMan

It's all been said before. Plenty of athletes take these tests and are fine come competition time. Also, not to mention, your opponent is undergoing the EXACT same testing procedures. Just take the damn tests Manny.

manny said he will so stop the hating now branman. I hope Gayweather accepts Pac's deal today so everything will be settled and everybody can talk about how Gayweather will win over Pac and proven wrong again after the fight.

Hey, I've said all along that I have nothing against Manny. I have no bias and I'm not black or filo. Any disgruntled opinions I have on the guy are not unfounded (I'm not sure I can say the same about your constant d**k-ridin).

Do you have an article to back up your statement about Manny accepting?

Exactly what I was going to ask for. The latest I read was both sides will be going into mediation on tuesday. There was no mention of Pacquiao accepting the random blood tests & urine tests that Mayweather was requesting. If he did, why would they even be going into mediation?

Originally Posted by knodaledge

Originally Posted by TheBranMan

Originally Posted by brucelee

manny said he will so stop the hating now branman. I hope Gayweather accepts Pac's deal today so everything will be settled and everybody can talk about how Gayweather will win over Pac and proven wrong again after the fight.

Hey, I've said all along that I have nothing against Manny. I have no bias and I'm not black or filo. Any disgruntled opinions I have on the guy are not unfounded (I'm not sure I can say the same about your constant d**k-ridin).

Do you have an article to back up your statement about Manny accepting?

Exactly what I was going to ask for. The latest I read was both sides will be going into mediation on tuesday. There was no mention of Pacquiao accepting the random blood tests & urine tests that Mayweather was requesting. If he did, why would they even be going into mediation?

mayweather hasn't signed the contract yet and he may not sign because of the case filed against them. there's so many things that need mediation. blood testing in my personal opinion does not need mediation. pac only need to say yes and that's it. Mayweather, on the other hand, may not sign the contract no matter how profitable it is. He ducked Margarito for $8 million and he's also planning of doing it against the Pac.

Originally Posted by brucelee

Originally Posted by knodaledge

Originally Posted by TheBranMan

Hey, I've said all along that I have nothing against Manny. I have no bias and I'm not black or filo. Any disgruntled opinions I have on the guy are not unfounded (I'm not sure I can say the same about your constant d**k-ridin).

Do you have an article to back up your statement about Manny accepting?

Exactly what I was going to ask for. The latest I read was both sides will be going into mediation on tuesday. There was no mention of Pacquiao accepting the random blood tests & urine tests that Mayweather was requesting. If he did, why would they even be going into mediation?

mayweather hasn't signed the contract yet and he may not sign because of the case filed against them. there's so many things that need mediation. blood testing in my personal opinion does not need mediation. pac only need to say yes and that's it. Mayweather, on the other hand, may not sign the contract no matter how profitable it is. He ducked Margarito for $8 million and he's also planning of doing it against the Pac.

That's not why they're going into mediation.

Top Rank and Golden Boy have agreed on all points on the Pacquiao-Mayweather fight except for one: The protocol for drug testing.
Even though the Nevada State Athletic Commission, which would oversee the bout at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, doesn't require blood testing, Mayweather has insisted on random blood testing. Both sides have already agreed to unlimited random urine testing.


Mediator to weigh Manny Pacquiao, Floyd Mayweather Jr. beef - ESPN

All that needs to be worked out is the testing issue. Of course Mayweather isn't going to sign a contract that doesn't require the testing he's pushing for or at least a mediated compromise that they're working towards on tuesday.

"Top Rank and Golden Boy have agreed on all points on the Pacquiao-Mayweather fight except for one: The protocol for drug testing.
Even though the Nevada State Athletic Commission, which would oversee the bout at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, doesn't require blood testing, Mayweather has insisted on random blood testing. Both sides have already agreed to unlimited random urine testing."

So Manny HAS NOT agreed to random blood testing eh? Guess it's another make-believe fact from the imagination of one of his d**k-riding fans. Of course he's going to agree to random urine testing.. what would his excuse be? 'Taking a piss weakens me?'

Originally Posted by brucelee

Originally Posted by knodaledge

Originally Posted by TheBranMan

Hey, I've said all along that I have nothing against Manny. I have no bias and I'm not black or filo. Any disgruntled opinions I have on the guy are not unfounded (I'm not sure I can say the same about your constant d**k-ridin).

Do you have an article to back up your statement about Manny accepting?

Exactly what I was going to ask for. The latest I read was both sides will be going into mediation on tuesday. There was no mention of Pacquiao accepting the random blood tests & urine tests that Mayweather was requesting. If he did, why would they even be going into mediation?

mayweather hasn't signed the contract yet and he may not sign because of the case filed against them. there's so many things that need mediation. blood testing in my personal opinion does not need mediation. pac only need to say yes and that's it. Mayweather, on the other hand, may not sign the contract no matter how profitable it is. He ducked Margarito for $8 million and he's also planning of doing it against the Pac.

No ones hating on Pac, you are a biased self pontificating presumptuous laughingstock...

I cant stand you nuthuggers and your douchebaggery.. Manny Pussiuao could be a serial killing pedophile and you minions would defend him.

HEY PAY ATTENTION TO THE ONLY FACTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This fight is not happening for one reason and one reason only.. Manny Pussiuao is refusing fair and thorough blood tests, he gaffed at a 40 million dollar payday just to piss away money in a lawsuit he will not win... Puss fears Mayweather and is afraid to fight him, or he is hiding something....

I believe with out some kind of HGH that little worm couldnt make a trim athletic 140-147 and thats the other reason he's running behind Roaches and arums skirt.... Mayweather will beat the shiit out out of him with or without Roids, Puss should just take the tests stay off the juice and get his ass annihilated for a cool 40 million... Besides, no shame in losing to the best boxer in the world

I wonder if all those 16 year old girls in gymnastics in the Olympics are talking about mental weakness? Nope.............

Originally Posted by JT Rock

Originally Posted by brucelee

Originally Posted by knodaledge

Exactly what I was going to ask for. The latest I read was both sides will be going into mediation on tuesday. There was no mention of Pacquiao accepting the random blood tests & urine tests that Mayweather was requesting. If he did, why would they even be going into mediation?

mayweather hasn't signed the contract yet and he may not sign because of the case filed against them. there's so many things that need mediation. blood testing in my personal opinion does not need mediation. pac only need to say yes and that's it. Mayweather, on the other hand, may not sign the contract no matter how profitable it is. He ducked Margarito for $8 million and he's also planning of doing it against the Pac.

No ones hating on Pac, you are a biased self pontificating presumptuous laughingstock...

I cant stand you nuthuggers and your douchebaggery.. Manny Pussiuao could be a serial killing pedophile and you minions would defend him.

HEY PAY ATTENTION TO THE ONLY FACTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This fight is not happening for one reason and one reason only.. Manny Pussiuao is refusing fair and thorough blood tests, he gaffed at a 40 million dollar payday just to piss away money in a lawsuit he will not win... Puss fears Mayweather and is afraid to fight him, or he is hiding something....

I believe with out some kind of HGH that little worm couldnt make a trim athletic 140-147 and thats the other reason he's running behind Roaches and arums skirt.... Mayweather will beat the shiit out out of him with or without Roids, Puss should just take the tests stay off the juice and get his ass annihilated for a cool 40 million... Besides, no shame in losing to the best boxer in the world

What if PAcquaio agrees to the random drug testing? I've heard him from the tv news that he will accept random BLOOD TEST as long as it's not too near the fight so I'm pretty much sure that in the end, he will eventually concede.

I wonder what you will be saying then JT Rock when Gayweather makes another excuse?

It's clear here who are doing the nuthugging JT Rock.

I'm a hugger ( i admit it) but don't forget that you yourself is a Gayweather nuthugger.

One cliche I've learned in one of my law subjects: You can't come to the court when your hands are also dirty.


And please don't you ever tell me that no one's hating PAC.

You're a hater and you can't deny that. I've been here for too long to know who's unbiased and who's not.

Originally Posted by brucelee

Originally Posted by JT Rock

Originally Posted by brucelee

mayweather hasn't signed the contract yet and he may not sign because of the case filed against them. there's so many things that need mediation. blood testing in my personal opinion does not need mediation. pac only need to say yes and that's it. Mayweather, on the other hand, may not sign the contract no matter how profitable it is. He ducked Margarito for $8 million and he's also planning of doing it against the Pac.

No ones hating on Pac, you are a biased self pontificating presumptuous laughingstock...

I cant stand you nuthuggers and your douchebaggery.. Manny Pussiuao could be a serial killing pedophile and you minions would defend him.

HEY PAY ATTENTION TO THE ONLY FACTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This fight is not happening for one reason and one reason only.. Manny Pussiuao is refusing fair and thorough blood tests, he gaffed at a 40 million dollar payday just to piss away money in a lawsuit he will not win... Puss fears Mayweather and is afraid to fight him, or he is hiding something....

I believe with out some kind of HGH that little worm couldnt make a trim athletic 140-147 and thats the other reason he's running behind Roaches and arums skirt.... Mayweather will beat the shiit out out of him with or without Roids, Puss should just take the tests stay off the juice and get his ass annihilated for a cool 40 million... Besides, no shame in losing to the best boxer in the world

What if PAcquaio agrees to the random drug testing? I've heard him from the tv news that he will accept random BLOOD TEST as long as it's not too near the fight so I'm pretty much sure that in the end, he will eventually concede.

I wonder what you will be saying then JT Rock when Gayweather makes another excuse?

It's clear here who are doing the nuthugging JT Rock.

I'm a hugger ( i admit it) but don't forget that you yourself is a Gayweather nuthugger.

One cliche I've learned in one of my law subjects: You can't come to the court when your hands are also dirty.


And please don't you ever tell me that no one's hating PAC.

You're a hater and you can't deny that. I've been here for too long to know who's unbiased and who's not.

Pacquiao doesn't want random tests 2 weeks prior to the fight... 2 DAMN WEEKS!!! 2 Weeks, it's eternity to cheat and to prepare a cycle. If he's clean (which I hope he is), he'll need to accept that otherwise the suspicions on his care are funded. I am ok with no blood tests the day of the fight if he's too superstitious, ok for the day before, but 2 weeks before? That's insanely exaggerated and with reason.

Originally Posted by Nameless

Originally Posted by brucelee

Originally Posted by JT Rock

No ones hating on Pac, you are a biased self pontificating presumptuous laughingstock...

I cant stand you nuthuggers and your douchebaggery.. Manny Pussiuao could be a serial killing pedophile and you minions would defend him.

HEY PAY ATTENTION TO THE ONLY FACTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This fight is not happening for one reason and one reason only.. Manny Pussiuao is refusing fair and thorough blood tests, he gaffed at a 40 million dollar payday just to piss away money in a lawsuit he will not win... Puss fears Mayweather and is afraid to fight him, or he is hiding something....

I believe with out some kind of HGH that little worm couldnt make a trim athletic 140-147 and thats the other reason he's running behind Roaches and arums skirt.... Mayweather will beat the shiit out out of him with or without Roids, Puss should just take the tests stay off the juice and get his ass annihilated for a cool 40 million... Besides, no shame in losing to the best boxer in the world

What if PAcquaio agrees to the random drug testing? I've heard him from the tv news that he will accept random BLOOD TEST as long as it's not too near the fight so I'm pretty much sure that in the end, he will eventually concede.

I wonder what you will be saying then JT Rock when Gayweather makes another excuse?

It's clear here who are doing the nuthugging JT Rock.

I'm a hugger ( i admit it) but don't forget that you yourself is a Gayweather nuthugger.

One cliche I've learned in one of my law subjects: You can't come to the court when your hands are also dirty.


And please don't you ever tell me that no one's hating PAC.

You're a hater and you can't deny that. I've been here for too long to know who's unbiased and who's not.

Pacquiao doesn't want random tests 2 weeks prior to the fight... 2 DAMN WEEKS!!! 2 Weeks, it's eternity to cheat and to prepare a cycle. If he's clean (which I hope he does), he'll need to accept that otherwise the suspicions on his care are funded. I am ok with no blood tests the day of the fight if he's too superstitious, ok for the day before, but 2 weeks before? That's insanely exaggerated and with reason.

I don't know about PEDS but with the way you talk about cycles, you must be a PEDs expert. And for you to say that 2 weeks is an eternity to cheat, you must really be an authority on PEDs. I just hope that TEAM PAcquaio hire you for your knowledge on PEDs.

AS a matter of fact, Team pacquaio must hire all the PEDs expert in this forum. It seems that we have an abundant supply of PEDs expert nowadays.

Originally Posted by brucelee

Originally Posted by Nameless

Originally Posted by brucelee

What if PAcquaio agrees to the random drug testing? I've heard him from the tv news that he will accept random BLOOD TEST as long as it's not too near the fight so I'm pretty much sure that in the end, he will eventually concede.

I wonder what you will be saying then JT Rock when Gayweather makes another excuse?

It's clear here who are doing the nuthugging JT Rock.

I'm a hugger ( i admit it) but don't forget that you yourself is a Gayweather nuthugger.

One cliche I've learned in one of my law subjects: You can't come to the court when your hands are also dirty.


And please don't you ever tell me that no one's hating PAC.

You're a hater and you can't deny that. I've been here for too long to know who's unbiased and who's not.

Pacquiao doesn't want random tests 2 weeks prior to the fight... 2 DAMN WEEKS!!! 2 Weeks, it's eternity to cheat and to prepare a cycle. If he's clean (which I hope he does), he'll need to accept that otherwise the suspicions on his care are funded. I am ok with no blood tests the day of the fight if he's too superstitious, ok for the day before, but 2 weeks before? That's insanely exaggerated and with reason.

I don't know about PEDS but with the way you talk about cycles, you must be a PEDs expert. And for you to say that 2 weeks is an eternity to cheat, you must really be an authority on PEDs. I just hope that TEAM PAcquaio hire you for your knowledge on PEDs.

AS a matter of fact, Team pacquaio must hire all the PEDs expert in this forum. It seems that we have an abundant supply of PEDs expert nowadays.

Give a GOOD reason Pacquiao can't take the blood test please.

And yes there are members of this forum that have done thorough research. I understand Pacquiao is a nice guy, but there is not a GOOD reason for him not to take the test.

Originally Posted by brucelee

Originally Posted by JT Rock

Originally Posted by brucelee

mayweather hasn't signed the contract yet and he may not sign because of the case filed against them. there's so many things that need mediation. blood testing in my personal opinion does not need mediation. pac only need to say yes and that's it. Mayweather, on the other hand, may not sign the contract no matter how profitable it is. He ducked Margarito for $8 million and he's also planning of doing it against the Pac.

No ones hating on Pac, you are a biased self pontificating presumptuous laughingstock...

I cant stand you nuthuggers and your douchebaggery.. Manny Pussiuao could be a serial killing pedophile and you minions would defend him.

HEY PAY ATTENTION TO THE ONLY FACTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This fight is not happening for one reason and one reason only.. Manny Pussiuao is refusing fair and thorough blood tests, he gaffed at a 40 million dollar payday just to piss away money in a lawsuit he will not win... Puss fears Mayweather and is afraid to fight him, or he is hiding something....

I believe with out some kind of HGH that little worm couldnt make a trim athletic 140-147 and thats the other reason he's running behind Roaches and arums skirt.... Mayweather will beat the shiit out out of him with or without Roids, Puss should just take the tests stay off the juice and get his ass annihilated for a cool 40 million... Besides, no shame in losing to the best boxer in the world

What if PAcquaio agrees to the random drug testing? I've heard him from the tv news that he will accept random BLOOD TEST as long as it's not too near the fight so I'm pretty much sure that in the end, he will eventually concede.

I wonder what you will be saying then JT Rock when Gayweather makes another excuse?

It's clear here who are doing the nuthugging JT Rock.

I'm a hugger ( i admit it) but don't forget that you yourself is a Gayweather nuthugger.

One cliche I've learned in one of my law subjects: You can't come to the court when your hands are also dirty.


And please don't you ever tell me that no one's hating PAC.

You're a hater and you can't deny that. I've been here for too long to know who's unbiased and who's not.

Sorry Bruce, but can u tell me why he can't have blood test close to the fight, except for the fact that he doesn't want them.
All the experts are arguing and the fans don't know what is going on. Surely the best way for him to clear up this mess is to say he will take any test that Mayweather is taking.
The point of being random is that they can take it anytime and not give you a set safe period before the fight.
If he is clean it won't make a difference, and there is no doctor or scientist that is going to say that the blood test will effect his performance.