Thread: Chavez Jr vs Cotto in the works?

More top rank stuff, i read this on fightnews

Top Rank is already planning the next move for Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. after his September 11th fight with Pavel Wolak. A world title shot against none other than Puerto Rican legend and current WBA super welterweight world champion Miguel Cotto looms on the horizon. That bout is penciled in for December 4th with Arlington, Texas and New York City being considered as possible fight locations.


I'm guessing Freddie will feel that since he beat Cotto before with Pacquiao that he'll be able to recreate that with Chavez.

Would be surprised if this happened, for now anyway. Pretty sure Roach said last month, after the Duddy fight, that he thinks JCC Jnr needs a couple more fights and more work in the gym before he is ready for a fighter of Miguel Cotto's calibre.

Would be an interesting match up, though.

i am absolutely convinced that chavez jr. beats cotto maybe by KO. why? cotto's punch resistance isn't the same after margarito got through with him. pacquiao proved this.

and no, margarito did not have loaded gloves vs. cotto because the nevada state athletic people have already said margarito was clean for that fight.

i also think chavez jr. is vastly improved and is just going to impose his will on cotto and make cotto back up the whole night. i seriously doubt cotto can hurt chavez jr. because jr. has a very good chin. as a pro, he's never even been hurt or wobbled.

like felix trinidad ruined fernando vargas, i believe the same is true that margarito ruined cotto!

Chavez was wobbled just the last time out by Duddy....and has been hurt various times before against the likes of Heinz and the rest of the tomato cans he's taken on, Cotto knocks him the fuck out in 5 lopsided rounds and then we see, Chavez vs Camacho Jr in 2011

i guess we'll have to see when the time comes!

This fight is very interesting to say the least. I'm going against the grain, I'm picking Chavez Jr. to beat Cotto.

Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

Chavez was wobbled just the last time out by Duddy....and has been hurt various times before against the likes of Heinz and the rest of the tomato cans he's taken on, Cotto knocks him the fuck out in 5 lopsided rounds and then we see, Chavez vs Camacho Jr in 2011

Yeah... there's a VAST difference between Cotto's and Chavez Jr's careers. One is a battle-tested veteran, with plenty of fights against elite opposition. The other has been coddled since Day One, getting fed a bunch of bums so as to not suffer that dreaded first "L". Yes, Cotto is more worn and older than Junior. But he's now got Emanuel Steward in his corner, correcting the few deficiencies Cotto had. AND... Cotto's heart has always been that of a warrior. I'd have to say he'll take Junior apart piece by coddled piece.

Can't wait.

forgot that emanuel steward was now the trainer of cotto's and that could play a big part in the fight. but how much more can an "old dog" like cotto learn? whereas chavez jr. is still young and could learn so much with someone like roach? just spectulating! in cotto's last fight, he showed he still had a vaunted offense but he has taken alot of punishment lately (foreman omitted) and he to me just seems to cut and bleed a little more nowadays.

the reason why i think chavez jr. might beat him is because here you have an example of a young lion going up to challenge an old grizzled lion. usually the young lion wins if the old one in damaged goods.

if chavez jr. does beat cotto i will not enjoy it as much cause like i've said, cotto is my current favorite puerto rican warrior. the man is humble and classy and an ultimate warrior.

I've never like junior, just hate the way he's been so protected through his career, kind decisions and weak opposition. Padded out record.

But he almost changed my opinion of him in his last fight.

If he does carry on improving though and if he puts some big name victims on his record, he could end up sneaking in as an ATG on record alone.

I think Cotto spanks him though, so I don't see this fight happening.

Miguel Cotto will destroy Chavez Jr, but i can't see this fight happening no way.

I thought Chavez jr was campaigning as a middleweight, If that's the case they (Toprank) should have just made Cotto-Margarito 2.

Something people seem to ignore about JCC Jr. is the fact that he was thrown in with the lions since day #1. JCC Jr has no typical 100+ amateur career, no Jr. Olympics experience, no Olympic experience, no golden glove experience, etc. Nothing. He laced the gloves on and thrown in the ring with professionals. JCC Jr. is pretty much an amateur with 41 fights getting in the ring with guys who have 2 or 3 times more experience than him. Still, people just don't seem to like him. If he didn't have the name "Julio Cesar Chavez Jr." maybe people would not see him as that bad. JCC Sr. went through a similar path and achieved admirable achievements and HOF status. Let's see how it goes with jr.

If, by any chance, he did beat Cotto, would people give him credit or think that Cotto was no good, damaged goods, too old, past his prime, etc?

Originally Posted by Chino

Something people seem to ignore about JCC Jr. is the fact that he was thrown in with the lions since day #1. JCC Jr has no typical 100+ amateur career, no Jr. Olympics experience, no Olympic experience, no golden glove experience, etc. Nothing. He laced the gloves on and thrown in the ring with professionals. JCC Jr. is pretty much an amateur with 41 fights getting in the ring with guys who have 2 or 3 times more experience than him. Still, people just don't seem to like him. If he didn't have the name "Julio Cesar Chavez Jr." maybe people would not see him as that bad. JCC Sr. went through a similar path and achieved admirable achievements and HOF status. Let's see how it goes with jr.

If, by any chance, he did beat Cotto, would people give him credit or think that Cotto was no good, damaged goods, too old, past his prime, etc?

difference is his dad was already stepping it up at this point, and once he stepped it up, he didn't jump back down (in quality of fighters he fought), Jr has yet to take a REAL challenge, and just cause he beat Duddy (who's a C level fighter, B at most) it doesn't mean he'll have any chance against a still world class Cotto