Thread: Chad Dawson teaming up with Emmanuel Steward

Looks like Chad wants to be more offensive minded, and decided to go with Steward as his new trainer. Wonder if he's gonna have a tune up fight with Steward or go right to the rematch with pascal??

Chad Dawson hooks up with Hall of Fame trainer Emanuel Steward - ESPN

I think this is a good move by Dawson.

It never hurts to go and learn new things with different trainers, hopefully he will proceed to get better.

Originally Posted by MMASUX

Looks like Chad wants to be more offensive minded, and decided to go with Steward as his new trainer. Wonder if he's gonna have a tune up fight with Steward or go right to the rematch with pascal??

Chad Dawson hooks up with Hall of Fame trainer Emanuel Steward - ESPN

You mean, learn how to hold and lean on fighters Look for that in Cotto v Mayorga

Yeah I suspect your about rightRoss, Steward is obviously a great trainer but he doesn't do the fans any favours for the most part.. Chad really needs to up his conditioning more than anything...He didn't have enough gas to match Pascals output, who himself was completely outworked by Hopkins and showed poor stamina to say the least. I do think Dawson is more than capable of winning the rematch though if he just works more, he had Pascal in trouble in the last round and he should know that he can get it done earlier, he is the better fighter.

Originally Posted by ross

Originally Posted by MMASUX

Looks like Chad wants to be more offensive minded, and decided to go with Steward as his new trainer. Wonder if he's gonna have a tune up fight with Steward or go right to the rematch with pascal??

Chad Dawson hooks up with Hall of Fame trainer Emanuel Steward - ESPN

You mean, learn how to hold and lean on fighters Look for that in Cotto v Mayorga

It's going to be nice when Mayorga gets his ass whupped by Miguel Cotto...I'll take pleasure in watching that just because of fans like you.

As for Dawson it's a wise choice on paper but the guy has to adapt to the style and that can take several fights to accomplish, but since Chad isn't coming off a devistating loss he should be psychologically prepared in less time. The main problem I had with Chad using John Scully, Dan Birmingham, Floyd Mayweather Sr., and Eddie Mustafa Muhammad is that all of those guys tried to have Chad (at 6'2/6'3) fight in close and that more than likely smothered any power he might have. With tall lanky fighters distance is a KEY, you need distance to put speed, leverage, and full power on a punch. Not everyone thrives under Manny's training, Jermain Taylor didn't do any better under Manny than he did under Pat Burns...though some might say he beat Pavlik in the rematch.

Dawson does have pretty fast hands, I do wonder why or if Freddy Roach was approached.

In all, it's an interesting pairing and it makes sense on paper, I'll be interested to see how Chad adapts, though I do predict if he does as Manny tells him his power will improve.

Originally Posted by El Kabong

It's going to be nice when Mayorga gets his ass whupped by Miguel Cotto...I'll take pleasure in watching that just because of fans like you.

Oh...don't be like that

Has Dawson had that many trainers already?

If he has, that tells me he's just a lazy fighter. Steward, Roach, anyone! They are not going to be able to implant a killer instinct in him. He just plods along.

I'd much rather watch a Ricardo Mayorga that leaves everything in the ring after taking and throwing everything he has regardless of what condition he's in.

i said it right after their first fight, and felt it even more after the Hopkins fight, Dawson stops Pascal in the rematch, as for ross,wtf does Mayorga have to do with Chad Dawson hiring Steward as his trainer?!?, lay off the crack buddy

I agree with Ross, Mayorga will ktfo of Dawson.

Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

i said it right after their first fight, and felt it even more after the Hopkins fight, Dawson stops Pascal in the rematch, as for ross,wtf does Mayorga have to do with Chad Dawson hiring Steward as his trainer?!?, lay off the crack buddy

Well, I'll let you in to a little secret

Steward is training Cotto. So watch for Cotto to hold a lot, instead of taking knees

Originally Posted by El Kabong

Originally Posted by ross

Originally Posted by MMASUX

Looks like Chad wants to be more offensive minded, and decided to go with Steward as his new trainer. Wonder if he's gonna have a tune up fight with Steward or go right to the rematch with pascal??

Chad Dawson hooks up with Hall of Fame trainer Emanuel Steward - ESPN

You mean, learn how to hold and lean on fighters Look for that in Cotto v Mayorga

It's going to be nice when Mayorga gets his ass whupped by Miguel Cotto...I'll take pleasure in watching that just because of fans like you.

As for Dawson it's a wise choice on paper but the guy has to adapt to the style and that can take several fights to accomplish, but since Chad isn't coming off a devistating loss he should be psychologically prepared in less time. The main problem I had with Chad using John Scully, Dan Birmingham, Floyd Mayweather Sr., and Eddie Mustafa Muhammad is that all of those guys tried to have Chad (at 6'2/6'3) fight in close and that more than likely smothered any power he might have. With tall lanky fighters distance is a KEY, you need distance to put speed, leverage, and full power on a punch. Not everyone thrives under Manny's training, Jermain Taylor didn't do any better under Manny than he did under Pat Burns...though some might say he beat Pavlik in the rematch.

Dawson does have pretty fast hands, I do wonder why or if Freddy Roach was approached.

In all, it's an interesting pairing and it makes sense on paper, I'll be interested to see how Chad adapts, though I do predict if he does as Manny tells him his power will improve.

Fuck Steward.

He's an opportunist who uses his gig at HBO to market himself to young fighters, steal them away from their trainers, have limited brief success with them (Cintron, Taylor), make money off them, then dump them and move on to the next guy.

And WHO thinks Taylor beat Pavlik in the rematch

I hope Mayorga beats Cotto just because of fans like you Lyle.

Happy New Year buddy.

Originally Posted by MMASUX

Looks like Chad wants to be more offensive minded, and decided to go with Steward as his new trainer. Wonder if he's gonna have a tune up fight with Steward or go right to the rematch with pascal??

Chad Dawson hooks up with Hall of Fame trainer Emanuel Steward - ESPN

He'd stop Steward imo.

Originally Posted by MMASUX

Looks like Chad wants to be more offensive minded, and decided to go with Steward as his new trainer. Wonder if he's gonna have a tune up fight with Steward or go right to the rematch with pascal??

Chad Dawson hooks up with Hall of Fame trainer Emanuel Steward - ESPN

I've never forgiven Steward for his work with Jermain Taylor. People can say what they want about Taylor's carreer and the different reasons for it spiraling down so quickly, but the facts are that when Jermain switched trainers from Pat Burns to Steward he took a huge nose dive Very quickly. When Taylor was under Pat Burns he stuck to what he did best and that was a laser jab. He beat longtime defending champ Hopkins twice with that jab. And then the switch to Steward. I've never understood why you would switch trainers right after you won the Middle weight tiltle? I know Steward is a HOF trainer but I also think he's overated. Its almost like he tries to make every one of his fighters be Tommy Hearns. Hearns was a KO artist, an offensive jaugernaut that could knock you out with both hands. Taylor was a Jab one-two guy and to each fighter his own. You have to play off someones strength not try to totally reinvint Taylor to be a reincarnate of Hearns and your past glory days. Taylor's physical conditioning went to complete and utter crap, he stopped using his jab, and his defense suffered all the while he traded it for a little more flashy combinations and more dynamic punching. I don't like the trade off. Not that Chad Dawson is Jermain Taylor or anything I just dont think Emanuel Steward is always the perfect fit. Just my opinion.

Originally Posted by levi#1BoxingFan

Originally Posted by MMASUX

Looks like Chad wants to be more offensive minded, and decided to go with Steward as his new trainer. Wonder if he's gonna have a tune up fight with Steward or go right to the rematch with pascal??

Chad Dawson hooks up with Hall of Fame trainer Emanuel Steward - ESPN

I've never forgiven Steward for his work with Jermain Taylor. People can say what they want about Taylor's carreer and the different reasons for it spiraling down so quickly, but the facts are that when Jermain switched trainers from Pat Burns to Steward he took a huge nose dive Very quickly. When Taylor was under Pat Burns he stuck to what he did best and that was a laser jab. He beat longtime defending champ Hopkins twice with that jab. And then the switch to Steward. I've never understood why you would switch trainers right after you won the Middle weight tiltle? I know Steward is a HOF trainer but I also think he's overated. Its almost like he tries to make every one of his fighters be Tommy Hearns. Hearns was a KO artist, an offensive jaugernaut that could knock you out with both hands. Taylor was a Jab one-two guy and to each fighter his own. You have to play off someones strength not try to totally reinvint Taylor to be a reincarnate of Hearns and your past glory days. Taylor's physical conditioning went to complete and utter crap, he stopped using his jab, and his defense suffered all the while he traded it for a little more flashy combinations and more dynamic punching. I don't like the trade off. Not that Chad Dawson is Jermain Taylor or anything I just dont think Emanuel Steward is always the perfect fit. Just my opinion.

funny how you forgot to mention Taylor's self noted lack of dedication while he was with Steward, same goes with Cintron

Chad has skills, no doubt about that. I spoke to a fighter that was in his camp before the Pascal fight and he said the camp was a joke, couldn't wait to leave. Dawson's intensity is an issue. He could have wiped the floor with Pascal but he wasn't willing to go to war. I think a trainer that could help him is Joe Goosen; give him a Corrales like inside game.

Not that I'm a particular fan of maxboxing forums because they are very cliquey but I had a nose recently and their members opinions on Dawson going with Steward is a lot different to the majority on here. Most of them don't think it will help Dawsons output or to be more aggressive either.