Thread: Was it OK for Cotto to "quit" in Cotto vs Margarito I?

Especially when you factor in that Margarito was busting him up with plastered handwraps.

It was an unfair fight. I would quit too if someone keep hitting me with cement blocks over and over again.

Fuck Margarito and all of his supporters.

Originally Posted by :::PSL:::

It was an unfair fight. I would quit too if someone keep hitting me with cement blocks over and over again.

Fuck Margarito and all of his supporters.

I hate this "macho" mentality that some boxing fans have. I mean Jesus H. Christ folks, boxing is a sport, not a fight to the death. So Cotto was supposed to have continued taking a beating with pastered wraps and risk getting brain damage? How fucking smart would that be..

I don't see anything wrong with Cotto quitting.

It wasn't like he quit as soon as it got rough. It went alot of hard rounds with Margarito and couldn't take no more.

Cotto has shown in fights before and after the Margarito fight that even when it gets tough for him that he can fight through it (eg. Pacquiao, Torres, Clottey).

Originally Posted by Mars_ax

Originally Posted by :::PSL:::

It was an unfair fight. I would quit too if someone keep hitting me with cement blocks over and over again.

Fuck Margarito and all of his supporters.

I hate this "macho" mentality that some boxing fans have. I mean Jesus H. Christ folks, boxing is a sport, not a fight to the death. So Cotto was supposed to have continued taking a beating with pastered wraps and risk getting brain damage? How fucking smart would that be..

I thought his corner threw in the towel. Oh well, I absolutely agree with the "macho" mentality that really is phony. Margarito and some may say they are willing to die in the ring but that is probably a bunch of crock. Anybody can say that they will die for this or that because they don't have to prove it. Just like everybody has a plan to kick the other guys a$$. When things go the wrong way the tune quickly changes as well. Besides, Margarito isn't exactly an honest guy. How many lies has he already told concerning just the plaster wraps So I'm sure he'd be willing to die in the ring is coming straight from the heart of an absolutely honest guy. And lets get straight to the point. What does dying in the ring do for you? If you die you lost anyway. So where does it get you?

The Nevada commission is a very experience commission. They cleared Margarito's wraps. So with it being a fair fight, Cotton quitting was a cowards move. I don't consider Cotto to be a coward. But he went out like one that night.

Its never ok to quit.
But considering the cheating scum he was up against..who knows.

I dunno - Quitting for me is something like what Ortiz did against Maidana, just gave up and shook his head saying "this isn't for me"..Same as Duran Leonard 2, although that was more like "fuck you Leonard, I'm not gonna let you embarrass me like this". Still quitting..

What Cotto did against Margarito was take all the shots that he could withstand and it appeared to me, couldn't give anymore and crumbled to his knee's.

I don't know if I'd call that quitting. He had nothing else left to give..why let this cheating prick (yes, I know..Cotto didn't know that at the time) keep getting free shots on his face when he can't even get his hands up or use his legs to move away? Why? To say you're the fucking man? His broken face already told the story of his bravery so although I can see the point if somebody said he quit, for me, he didn't quit.

I do wonder sometimes how people on this board who say he was a pussy for quitting would react feeling the exact way Cotto felt at that moment in time. I bet most would have "quit" a LOOOOONG time before..

I chose option 3. It's easier to judge when you are on the outside looking in but Cotto done took enough punishment by the time he quit on his knees.. It was unnecessary to continue at that point cuz he was done either way and there was no way he was gonna survive that round.

Cotto did the smart thing cuz he's still here today, bout to fight another day.

Cotto is wise but he never had that dog in him.. He's not made from the same cloth as guys like Marquez and Margarito for instance.

Absolutely. I wish more fighters would quit when they knew their situation was hopeless. Boxing fans have an absurd mentality where admitting defeat while still conscious = cowardice. It's ridiculous.

Originally Posted by Althugz

I dunno - Quitting for me is something like what Ortiz did against Maidana, just gave up and shook his head saying "this isn't for me"..Same as Duran Leonard 2, although that was more like "fuck you Leonard, I'm not gonna let you embarrass me like this". Still quitting..

What Cotto did against Margarito was take all the shots that he could withstand and it appeared to me, couldn't give anymore and crumbled to his knee's.

I don't know if I'd call that quitting. He had nothing else left to give..why let this cheating prick (yes, I know..Cotto didn't know that at the time) keep getting free shots on his face when he can't even get his hands up or use his legs to move away? Why? To say you're the fucking man? His broken face already told the story of his bravery so although I can see the point if somebody said he quit, for me, he didn't quit.

I do wonder sometimes how people on this board who say he was a pussy for quitting would react feeling the exact way Cotto felt at that moment in time. I bet most would have "quit" a LOOOOONG time before..

This.

Originally Posted by blegit

Originally Posted by Mars_ax

Originally Posted by :::PSL:::

It was an unfair fight. I would quit too if someone keep hitting me with cement blocks over and over again.

Fuck Margarito and all of his supporters.

I hate this "macho" mentality that some boxing fans have. I mean Jesus H. Christ folks, boxing is a sport, not a fight to the death. So Cotto was supposed to have continued taking a beating with pastered wraps and risk getting brain damage? How fucking smart would that be..

I thought his corner threw in the towel. Oh well, I absolutely agree with the "macho" mentality that really is phony. Margarito and some may say they are willing to die in the ring but that is probably a bunch of crock. Anybody can say that they will die for this or that because they don't have to prove it. Just like everybody has a plan to kick the other guys a$$. When things go the wrong way the tune quickly changes as well. Besides, Margarito isn't exactly an honest guy. How many lies has he already told concerning just the plaster wraps So I'm sure he'd be willing to die in the ring is coming straight from the heart of an absolutely honest guy. And lets get straight to the point. What does dying in the ring do for you? If you die you lost anyway. So where does it get you?

If I remember right, Miguel took a knee, and then the corner threw in the towel, but it really doesn't make any difference. You owe it to your fans and yourself to do the best you can, and put on a good show, but that doesn't include sacrificing your health and well being.

I never thought Cotto didn't do the right thing, even before it was known that Margarito might have used plastered wraps.

Originally Posted by Violent Demise

The Nevada commission is a very experience commission. They cleared Margarito's wraps. So with it being a fair fight, Cotton quitting was a cowards move. I don't consider Cotto to be a coward. But he went out like one that night.

There's no "they." One guy was there. Do you know who it was, or how experienced he was? Do experienced commissioners never miss things? The NYSAC is pretty experienced, too. Didn't help Billy Collins.

I didn't see it as him quitting. At the time I just thought he had been beaten by some truly hurtfull shots, now looking back with the knowledge we have of Margarito cheating I have to say it looks more and more like he cheated against Cotto. I fully expect Cotto to get revenge this time around, and hopefully he will give Margarito a beating on the same level that Pacquiao did.

I never thought Miguel Cotto quit that fight.

Maybe the Puerto Rican caved in to the physical limitations that he had, but it was quite understandable, for if in fact the suspected loaded gloves, the glove of choice for Tony Margarito was illegal... then Miguel indeed was, a victim of an inhuman battering!

The repulsive thing, given that, if there actually was premeditation, was the manner by which the camp who administered the brutality was celebrating! Unconscionable!