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    Question Advice for 1st amatuer fight?

    Alright im having my first amatuer fight feb 18th, (15 days from today) ive only been training about 2 months for it, because i know the guy im fighting is not that good, im actually pretty confident im going to win, his standup is really sloppy. its a mma amatuer fight, but ive been traing my takedown defense more for this, ill copy the link into this thread when i get home, but he throws a lot of haymakers/hooks, and since its mma i dont want to be ducking because he has good kicks, or he could knee me,
    what would you do as a boxer in the standup to a guy who throws a bunch of sloppy hooks/haymakers and few jabs, i think my reach is a little longer then his, so my original plan was to be quick on my feet, work the jabs for a while, and mostly be doing 1-2 stick and move combinations, and if i get the opportunity jab him in the solar plex so he cant breathe for a moment and try to make my move to finish it. does this sound like a good plan? for the standup
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    is the link of who im fighting.. the jalam guy
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    He likes to pull his head back. Jab him a couple of times, dont try and hit him with it, just try and get him to pull his head back. Then on about the 3rd jab, fake it and throw a long left hook and catch him on the chin. YOU CAN DO IT! Just promise me you'll try it at least once. Then get a video and give us an update.

    Or you can just take him to the ground and wear him out. Save your energy while making him work to escape. It looks like his cardio is pretty bad. If you get him like he was in the video while having some gas to finish him, you too can have your very own TKO victory! Good luck! Go get em son!

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    alright i promise ill try it :P and ill share the link after it gets put on youtube
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    Default Re: Advice for 1st amatuer fight?

    Boy, I'm just a boxing expert. If I were to fight in MMA, I'd get my ass handed to me by any decent wrestler.

    But good luck, man. You've done a good job of trying to figure out how you want to fight. I hope you do well. Get it on camera so that we can see it.

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    When you catch him with a left like that, follow him fast by drawing your rear leg up to your front leg and flying knee off the front leg as he squares up, he wont get up. He will be looking to keep his head away from more fists with distance and leaning back is a mistake as is going straight back.

    He is so open to straight front kicks right between the elbows all the time. If you can bang fast with your legs and send a foot into his mid riff as he runs forwards he is gone. He is open for business and he hasnt a cool head so time him coming,or kick up from under your block, if you hide a front kick coming from under your lead arm he wont even see what happened.

    Practice what youre good at ,dont over think it and you'll make the spaces to work in.

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    I thought somebody might say it, but they're not, so I'll say it. When I hear something like "ive only been training about 2 months for it, because i know the guy im fighting is not that good" I get worried about a fighter's career. Disrespecting your opponent and thinking that your opponent isn't that good and that he can't hurt you and therefore you don't have to train hard is not the recipe of a champion. If you lose this fight you'll be telling yourself and others the excuse "I should have won because he's no good but I only trained 2 months for it".

    You saw this guy fight two months ago - you don't know what he's learned or how much better shape he's in now. You're fighting a different guy on the 18th. Assume he learned his lesson from that fight and has worked his ass off the past two months; you better train your ass off, too, if you want to win decisively. The less punishment a fighter takes, the longer his career lasts and the better he does. The better he does and the longer his career lasts, the more money he makes. You'll also be that much better trained for your next fight.

    Respect all your opponents and train like there's no tomorrow and you're fighting the next world champion and teach that guy an even harder lesson! You're not going out there to just win. You're going out there to make him re-think his career and decide he's had enough of fighting. Good luck, son! Don't forget to post a video for us!

    Incidentally I see you're in the Salem area. I know an ex-pro boxer who trains boxing on the cheap out of his gym in Albany (it's more of a hobby for extra cash). If I recall it's something like $40/month to use his gym and it's open Tuesday-Thursday 4:15-7 or something like that. PM me if you're interested in some contact info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyShocker View Post
    I thought somebody might say it, but they're not, so I'll say it. When I hear something like "ive only been training about 2 months for it, because i know the guy im fighting is not that good" I get worried about a fighter's career. Disrespecting your opponent and thinking that your opponent isn't that good and that he can't hurt you and therefore you don't have to train hard is not the recipe of a champion. If you lose this fight you'll be telling yourself and others the excuse "I should have won because he's no good but I only trained 2 months for it".

    You saw this guy fight two months ago - you don't know what he's learned or how much better shape he's in now. You're fighting a different guy on the 18th. Assume he learned his lesson from that fight and has worked his ass off the past two months; you better train your ass off, too, if you want to win decisively. The less punishment a fighter takes, the longer his career lasts and the better he does. The better he does and the longer his career lasts, the more money he makes. You'll also be that much better trained for your next fight.

    Respect all your opponents and train like there's no tomorrow and you're fighting the next world champion and teach that guy an even harder lesson! You're not going out there to just win. You're going out there to make him re-think his career and decide he's had enough of fighting. Good luck, son! Don't forget to post a video for us!

    Incidentally I see you're in the Salem area. I know an ex-pro boxer who trains boxing on the cheap out of his gym in Albany (it's more of a hobby for extra cash). If I recall it's something like $40/month to use his gym and it's open Tuesday-Thursday 4:15-7 or something like that. PM me if you're interested in some contact info.
    Excellent so true,to underestimate anyone is disaster waiting. Great to be confident and study the others abilities.

    I took your first two sentences separately though (you been training for two months.) Then I read , Because you know the guy your fighting isnt that good you have some confidence.

    Jimmy shocker is right either way. Don't underestimate anyone you never know what they now have or what they will bring to it. Over confidence can undermine the same too. Be in balance in and out of the ring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyShocker View Post
    I thought somebody might say it, but they're not, so I'll say it. When I hear something like "ive only been training about 2 months for it, because i know the guy im fighting is not that good" I get worried about a fighter's career. Disrespecting your opponent and thinking that your opponent isn't that good and that he can't hurt you and therefore you don't have to train hard is not the recipe of a champion. If you lose this fight you'll be telling yourself and others the excuse "I should have won because he's no good but I only trained 2 months for it".

    You saw this guy fight two months ago - you don't know what he's learned or how much better shape he's in now. You're fighting a different guy on the 18th. Assume he learned his lesson from that fight and has worked his ass off the past two months; you better train your ass off, too, if you want to win decisively. The less punishment a fighter takes, the longer his career lasts and the better he does. The better he does and the longer his career lasts, the more money he makes. You'll also be that much better trained for your next fight.

    Respect all your opponents and train like there's no tomorrow and you're fighting the next world champion and teach that guy an even harder lesson! You're not going out there to just win. You're going out there to make him re-think his career and decide he's had enough of fighting. Good luck, son! Don't forget to post a video for us!

    Incidentally I see you're in the Salem area. I know an ex-pro boxer who trains boxing on the cheap out of his gym in Albany (it's more of a hobby for extra cash). If I recall it's something like $40/month to use his gym and it's open Tuesday-Thursday 4:15-7 or something like that. PM me if you're interested in some contact info.
    Yeah but, hes been training for like 3-6 months b4 that fight. so im just assuming he wont be that much better, im not trying to disrespect him, im just saying i think if we stood up i have the bigger chance of winning, and im going this weekend to train with a few fighters and a state wrestler i know for my ground game( Not trying to learn anything new i already know the basic chokes and locks, but how to scramble to my feet)
    thanks for the advice though guys, hes actually a kinda old friend we havent talked really since we set the fight up but we'll probably talk again after, and jw what are some good counters to an all out just rush? keep my cool and stick to the plan or try to pull something off...? What would you do if someone rushed you pretty much, because i dont have that planned out yet and im guessing he's going to rush in as soon as the bell rings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandman1995 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyShocker View Post
    I thought somebody might say it, but they're not, so I'll say it. When I hear something like "ive only been training about 2 months for it, because i know the guy im fighting is not that good" I get worried about a fighter's career. Disrespecting your opponent and thinking that your opponent isn't that good and that he can't hurt you and therefore you don't have to train hard is not the recipe of a champion. If you lose this fight you'll be telling yourself and others the excuse "I should have won because he's no good but I only trained 2 months for it".

    You saw this guy fight two months ago - you don't know what he's learned or how much better shape he's in now. You're fighting a different guy on the 18th. Assume he learned his lesson from that fight and has worked his ass off the past two months; you better train your ass off, too, if you want to win decisively. The less punishment a fighter takes, the longer his career lasts and the better he does. The better he does and the longer his career lasts, the more money he makes. You'll also be that much better trained for your next fight.

    Respect all your opponents and train like there's no tomorrow and you're fighting the next world champion and teach that guy an even harder lesson! You're not going out there to just win. You're going out there to make him re-think his career and decide he's had enough of fighting. Good luck, son! Don't forget to post a video for us!

    Incidentally I see you're in the Salem area. I know an ex-pro boxer who trains boxing on the cheap out of his gym in Albany (it's more of a hobby for extra cash). If I recall it's something like $40/month to use his gym and it's open Tuesday-Thursday 4:15-7 or something like that. PM me if you're interested in some contact info.
    Yeah but, hes been training for like 3-6 months b4 that fight. so im just assuming he wont be that much better, im not trying to disrespect him, im just saying i think if we stood up i have the bigger chance of winning, and im going this weekend to train with a few fighters and a state wrestler i know for my ground game( Not trying to learn anything new i already know the basic chokes and locks, but how to scramble to my feet)
    thanks for the advice though guys, hes actually a kinda old friend we havent talked really since we set the fight up but we'll probably talk again after, and jw what are some good counters to an all out just rush? keep my cool and stick to the plan or try to pull something off...? What would you do if someone rushed you pretty much, because i dont have that planned out yet and im guessing he's going to rush in as soon as the bell rings.
    Straight front kick.What could you possibly catch someone charging in with thats better? On distance it out reaches everything he can come in with (except his own lead foot in your chest) and it gives you the time and set up to really move on him in the next distance in, while he is reacting. Practice a fast snapping front kick at chin level and landing in balance stepping in from where you kicked and move forward as you punch right on landing. I bet all his plans about knocking you out with his fists or coming in swing for the fences later when he is tired will all fall on the floor once that lead foot connects.
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    Alright. so when he rushes in at me do a front kick? i cant really kick with my left leg so id probably do it with my right, as long as i could do it fast enough its only 11 days away so im trying to prepare
    But the thing is i dont wanna get too many concepts in my mind and be thinking about all the different things you guys tell me to do, but i dont know if ill remember to do them when im actually in there, like the double jab feint third left hook i might not remember, and i dont really know how to feint a jab anyways, im not really there yet, ive already decided after this fight im going straight into boxing matches, and train for golden gloves, and try to get the northwest diamond belt for my weight class (Amatuer) thats my future goal, even if it takes me 3 years.
    so i dont wanna get all these extra concepts in my mind and try one of them, and then end up doing it sloppy, or too slow and give him the advantage by overthinking this.. i guess is what im tryin to say haha all tips appreciated though

    "Practice what youre good at ,dont over think it and you'll make the spaces to work in"
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    I personally cant think of anything that would deal with that better is all its reasonably basic.

    If you can snap a kick up under someones jaw from below their arms while their mind is on attacking you with their arms they wont see you setting it up.

    Ok, you got no left kick?

    So he comes in elbows apart swing ,jabbing whatever; you pull your left foot back behind your right foot into switch stance (gives you room to move and gives you the timing to catch him) time it even with a shuffle step fist whatever it takes, then launch your right foot straight up between his arms, come down on him punching or grapple and take him to the ground whatever.

    Beat distance with distancing and reach; this is MMA the closest thing to free fighting, you got alot of tools and a lot of distances to work with, much more than boxing.

    Same in the streets, if some fools got his fists clenched Im outreaching him with my feet first if possible then at the next distance outreaching him with my fingertips directed at the correct targets. Its basics in getting the upper hand over people who prefer to fight in one preferred distance. Use your feet to set it all up.

    Same works the other way too, called 'passing under the hilt', you move in further past their extended fist distance and go into elbows and knee range attack before you take them to ground closer into their balance.

    Practice your timing with a sparring partner or a mate.
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    Alright. ill start trying to do that in my shadowboxing, thanks for all the advice guys. Just 11 days :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandman1995 View Post
    Alright. ill start trying to do that in my shadowboxing, thanks for all the advice guys. Just 11 days :P
    Dont bust your toes on his chin if you cant pull your toes back and hit him with the ball or heel, go for his solar plexus if you are not a well stretched leg fighter.

    Also before you fight stretch out your muscles lightly and warm them up with fast revolves on the joints,then some fast moves, then shake yourself out and get loose hold your warmth in as you walk in with a jacket, never start cold.
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    Alright will do, and the video will be posted prolly a day or 2 after the fight, and better video quality in 2 weeks, when the actual mma people post it
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