Thread: Well done Cotto for learning English so well!

This is something that I observe quite closely in fighters who pursue their career overseas. I look at someone like Manny and you can see that his English is at the same basic level it always seems to have been. Cotto on the other hand was someone who clearly didn't know very much beyond 'Hello' and 'Thank you' in his fight promotions and yet is now able to converse and put together fairly well constructed sentences and express himself with a great degree of clarity. You can see the progression over a few years and it always pleases me to see fighters make these kinds of linguistic progressions. On the other hand you get fighters like Mayorga who have never given a hoot about the whole process and that is fair enough too. However, I like to see a fighter make an attempt to become more mainstream by broadening their linguistic palate to some degree.

Cotto speaks better English than Roger Mayweather which says a lot. So, well done Cotto!

Originally Posted by Gandalf

This is something that I observe quite closely in fighters who pursue their career overseas. I look at someone like Manny and you can see that his English is at the same basic level it always seems to have been. Cotto on the other hand was someone who clearly didn't know very much beyond 'Hello' and 'Thank you' in his fight promotions and yet is now able to converse and put together fairly well constructed sentences and express himself with a great degree of clarity. You can see the progression over a few years and it always pleases me to see fighters make these kinds of linguistic progressions. On the other hand you get fighters like Mayorga who have never given a hoot about the whole process and that is fair enough too. However, I like to see a fighter make an attempt to become more mainstream by broadening their linguistic palate to some degree.

Cotto speaks better English than Roger Mayweather which says a lot. So, well done Cotto!

Roger's muther-fucking vocabulary isn't real muther-fucking extensive, but the muther-fucker do speak afro-english mo-fukin' fluently.

Cotto did a good job learning english, I respect him for that, that's one of the reasons i'm a fan.

Especially considering how difficult it is to learn a second language as an adult. The time to learn other languages is when you're a child. Once you're an adult, the difficulty increases exponentially. So yeah... Cotto should be very proud of that accomplishment. Us fans certainly are.

To be fair to Roger....he ain't got no mo'fukkin teeth



y'all don't know shit about speaking english


Cotto does speak very good English. I understand him better than some American fighters...which is kinda sad.

Originally Posted by Gandalf

This is something that I observe quite closely in fighters who pursue their career overseas. I look at someone like Manny and you can see that his English is at the same basic level it always seems to have been. Cotto on the other hand was someone who clearly didn't know very much beyond 'Hello' and 'Thank you' in his fight promotions and yet is now able to converse and put together fairly well constructed sentences and express himself with a great degree of clarity. You can see the progression over a few years and it always pleases me to see fighters make these kinds of linguistic progressions. On the other hand you get fighters like Mayorga who have never given a hoot about the whole process and that is fair enough too. However, I like to see a fighter make an attempt to become more mainstream by broadening their linguistic palate to some degree.

Cotto speaks better English than Roger Mayweather which says a lot. So, well done Cotto!

If I'm not mistaken Puerto Ricans by default are American citizens. So shouldn't an American citizen be fluent in the English language?

Originally Posted by generalbulldog

Originally Posted by Gandalf

This is something that I observe quite closely in fighters who pursue their career overseas. I look at someone like Manny and you can see that his English is at the same basic level it always seems to have been. Cotto on the other hand was someone who clearly didn't know very much beyond 'Hello' and 'Thank you' in his fight promotions and yet is now able to converse and put together fairly well constructed sentences and express himself with a great degree of clarity. You can see the progression over a few years and it always pleases me to see fighters make these kinds of linguistic progressions. On the other hand you get fighters like Mayorga who have never given a hoot about the whole process and that is fair enough too. However, I like to see a fighter make an attempt to become more mainstream by broadening their linguistic palate to some degree.

Cotto speaks better English than Roger Mayweather which says a lot. So, well done Cotto!

If I'm not mistaken Puerto Ricans by default are American citizens. So shouldn't an American citizen be fluent in the English language?

Not really. With the amount of immigration to the states a large proportion of American's are now functionally illiterate. You have Korea town areas where English is broken at best and then a lot of Mexican immigrants who can barely string collective words together. That's a lot of people who can't really speak English.

Cotto is doing well, I give full props to the man. His English is much better than my Korean. Though I am sure he has received plenty of instruction from his large friend. I wish I had a fat Korean friend who I could share a bed with.

Originally Posted by generalbulldog

Originally Posted by Gandalf

This is something that I observe quite closely in fighters who pursue their career overseas. I look at someone like Manny and you can see that his English is at the same basic level it always seems to have been. Cotto on the other hand was someone who clearly didn't know very much beyond 'Hello' and 'Thank you' in his fight promotions and yet is now able to converse and put together fairly well constructed sentences and express himself with a great degree of clarity. You can see the progression over a few years and it always pleases me to see fighters make these kinds of linguistic progressions. On the other hand you get fighters like Mayorga who have never given a hoot about the whole process and that is fair enough too. However, I like to see a fighter make an attempt to become more mainstream by broadening their linguistic palate to some degree.

Cotto speaks better English than Roger Mayweather which says a lot. So, well done Cotto!

If I'm not mistaken Puerto Ricans by default are American citizens. So shouldn't an American citizen be fluent in the English language?

umm all Canadians are Canadian citizens yet the whole population of Quebec doesn't speak english, we're a commonwealth same as Guam, and again I'm sure that they don't speak if fluently either, Cotto learned english using Rosetta Stone, and has said on numerous occasions that he did it so that he would never have to rely on a translator to speak for him only to go on and misinterpret what he's really trying to say

I give Cotto tons of credit. A working mans fighter who puts family value 1st. Real Classy guy

Cotto is a class act..always has been.

Although give Pac some credit..his English has improved a little. Nowhere near as much as Miguels but it's better than it was. Plus, he's a boxer not a language teacher..so he's just "doing his job"

Originally Posted by generalbulldog

Originally Posted by Gandalf

This is something that I observe quite closely in fighters who pursue their career overseas. I look at someone like Manny and you can see that his English is at the same basic level it always seems to have been. Cotto on the other hand was someone who clearly didn't know very much beyond 'Hello' and 'Thank you' in his fight promotions and yet is now able to converse and put together fairly well constructed sentences and express himself with a great degree of clarity. You can see the progression over a few years and it always pleases me to see fighters make these kinds of linguistic progressions. On the other hand you get fighters like Mayorga who have never given a hoot about the whole process and that is fair enough too. However, I like to see a fighter make an attempt to become more mainstream by broadening their linguistic palate to some degree.

Cotto speaks better English than Roger Mayweather which says a lot. So, well done Cotto!

If I'm not mistaken Puerto Ricans by default are American citizens. So shouldn't an American citizen be fluent in the English language?

The issue of U.S. citizenship has nothing to do with the native language of Puerto Rico, which happens to be Spanish. Spanish has been spoken here since the island was first colonized by Spain. Given our current ties to the U.S. and our citizen status, yes... there are many Puerto Ricans who can speak and write English fluently, and English is taught in all schools.

Tito never learnt to his eternal shame.

See, I've got nothing against immigrants who come to America and don't learn to speak English. Because to be fair, I'm not going to even attempt to learn another language. So I don't blame them.

But Cotto has a lot of my respect. The dude is a pure professional. He learned to speak English better than most Americans just so that he could have good interviews and represent himself. Cotto doesn't mess around.

I don't know if there is a single boxer alive at the moment that I give more respect to than I do Cotto. The guy should be the overall representation of what boxers are when they do the right things with their careers and do the sport right. Screw Floyd.

Originally Posted by Master

Tito never learnt to his eternal shame.

LOL

On a side note I think Cotto speaks better English than Sam Peter ever did.

Originally Posted by generalbulldog

Originally Posted by Gandalf

This is something that I observe quite closely in fighters who pursue their career overseas. I look at someone like Manny and you can see that his English is at the same basic level it always seems to have been. Cotto on the other hand was someone who clearly didn't know very much beyond 'Hello' and 'Thank you' in his fight promotions and yet is now able to converse and put together fairly well constructed sentences and express himself with a great degree of clarity. You can see the progression over a few years and it always pleases me to see fighters make these kinds of linguistic progressions. On the other hand you get fighters like Mayorga who have never given a hoot about the whole process and that is fair enough too. However, I like to see a fighter make an attempt to become more mainstream by broadening their linguistic palate to some degree.

Cotto speaks better English than Roger Mayweather which says a lot. So, well done Cotto!

If I'm not mistaken Puerto Ricans by default are American citizens. So shouldn't an American citizen be fluent in the English language?

Why? English is not the official language of America.

Originally Posted by Master

Tito never learnt to his eternal shame.

His Spanish is sometimes hard to understand too. But we love the guy. Tito will never be replaced.