Thread: Written Off !!!!!!!!!!

Boxing fan's are a funny bunch, one lose and and your history,! yes we are a funny lot
but we forget, here is a example of a World Champion before he won his World title
he had lost 6 fights, his record consisted of won (49) (KO30) lost 14 (4) +drawn 2.
Now you would say, he was pretty crap but the guy was a Rock, this guy was very entertaining
not the best technical boxer in the World, but gave his all, WHO WAS HE.!

Originally Posted by Dia bando

Boxing fan's are a funny bunch, one lose and and your history,! yes we are a funny lot
but we forget, here is a example of a World Champion before he won his World title
he had lost 6 fights, his record consisted of won (49) (KO30) lost 14 (4) +drawn 2.
Now you would say, he was pretty crap but the guy was a Rock, this guy was very entertaining
not the best technical boxer in the World, but gave his all, WHO WAS HE.!

There is a clue in there to who this fighters is.!

Denis Andries.

Dennis Andries

Originally Posted by Dia bando

Boxing fan's are a funny bunch, one lose and and your history,! yes we are a funny lot
but we forget, here is a example of a World Champion before he won his World title
he had lost 6 fights, his record consisted of won (49) (KO30) lost 14 (4) +drawn 2.
Now you would say, he was pretty crap but the guy was a Rock, this guy was very entertaining
not the best technical boxer in the World, but gave his all, WHO WAS HE.!

Definitely in my top 5 personal pet peeves.

Yes you are right Dennis The Rock Andries, he lost 6 fights before becoming Champion, had 3
epic fights with Jeff Harding, and one with Tommy Hearns.
After losing to Hearns, he became a Kronk fighter it goes to prove your may be down and out
but this guy was far from finished.
Dennis was not technically a gifted boxer, but he gave his body and soul people would look
at his record and think he was rubbish far from it.

Originally Posted by Dia bando

Boxing fan's are a funny bunch, one lose and and your history,! yes we are a funny lot
but we forget, here is a example of a World Champion before he won his World title
he had lost 6 fights, his record consisted of won (49) (KO30) lost 14 (4) +drawn 2.
Now you would say, he was pretty crap but the guy was a Rock, this guy was very entertaining
not the best technical boxer in the World, but gave his all, WHO WAS HE.!

Charlie Zelenoff?

I can imagine a guy can learn more about himself from a hard fought loss than a assured and assumex win in some cases and he wasn't lossing to chumps. Guys like Andries were banking experience the whole time. Bobby Czyz and Arum thought he would just move outta the way for them. Loved the trilogy with Harding, that belongs in a best of all time category. Just wars!

Jhonny Gonzalez. 19 boxing "experts" were asked, 19 picked Mares, 0 for J-Gonz.

Originally Posted by toe2toe

Jhonny Gonzalez. 19 boxing "experts" were asked, 19 picked Mares, 0 for J-Gonz.

Is that actually confirmed? Goes to show, this is boxing. There was no reason at all to pick Gonzales, but most of those 19 guys probably knew he had some chance, and what do ya know Surprised the hell out of me, Mares has had a couple of gruelling fights and I'd never seen him seriously hurt before last night. Anyone, absolutely anyone can get caught against a puncher like Jhonny at that weight class. Would love to see a rematch.

Dennis Andries is a example of a fighter that you would have written off, but he went on to become
WBC light heavy weight Champ.
Very much goes to show, sometimes records do not tell the truth us boxing fan's are writing fighters off
after one lose.!

Looking back in time not many fighters, were undefeated but they became Champions,! are
we now writing fighters off after one lose yes we are,!
Modern boxers, don't seem to serve a long apprenticeship you can be a World Champion after
10 or so fights, it seems we don't tolerate a fighter losing 2 or 3 fights.
Lets go back in time, most fighters had between 30 or 40 plus fights before having a chance of
a title fight, we must remember some of theses fighters had lost, but they became Champions, the modern boxing fans are a hard to please bunch, you would have to agree are we not.

Do most fans really write fighters off after one loss? Of course there are idiots that gloat at the failure of certain fighters but most sensible fans understand anyone can lose on any given night, which is what makes boxing so exciting.

I was 11 when Andries fought Hearns. I watched the fight with my dad. I remember beforehand my dad telling me Andries is as hard as nails. Then I watched him get knocked down ten million times and didn't understand why he was so tough. Obviously later I would realise he was hard as nails because he kept getting back up.

By the way (Dia), don't worry mate, I'm sure Frank will have a good plan to give Nathan Cleverly another "world" title.

Originally Posted by Fenster

Do most fans really write fighters off after one loss? Of course there are idiots that gloat at the failure of certain fighters but most sensible fans understand anyone can lose on any given night, which is what makes boxing so exciting.

I was 11 when Andries fought Hearns. I watched the fight with my dad. I remember beforehand my dad telling me Andries is as hard as nails. Then I watched him get knocked down ten million times and didn't understand why he was so tough. Obviously later I would realise he was hard as nails because he kept getting back up.

By the way (Dia), don't worry mate, I'm sure Frank will have a good plan to give Nathan Cleverly another "world" title.

Yes I am in agreement with, look at Kiko he won Frampton must be kicking himself, well if
Cleverly comes back,we all gloat bud it's what boxing fans do.