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    Default ... and yet still about Deontay Wilder:

    ... After that one round farce of a fight last night against Scott, we still have NO IDEA of his long-term fighting ability, or his chin or his heart.

    If it was a fix, which I feel that it was, we were robbed of knowing if Wilder is still a worthy guy worth fighting at the top level and getting title chances.

    That fight showed us less of Wilder as did the fight with Sergei and all the others.

    We saw "some" things with Firtha, and a little glimpse of what he was when he faced Kelvin Price, but that's it....

    I would love to see a Mansour, Pulev, Chagaev, Fury, Chisora, Thompson, Haye and/or Ortiz/Perez/Solis fight for Wilder.

    Please line up Solis, Thompson, Chagaev or Pulev. These are guys still hungry to win....
    Bigger man George, bigger punch!

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    Default Re: ... and yet still about Deontay Wilder:

    Arreola will test him. Arreola will beat Stiverne and will pressure him and make him work. He's not going to take a dive.

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    Default Re: ... and yet still about Deontay Wilder:

    Is he not fighting the winner of Perez/Jennings? Thought I read somewhere that was the other eliminator.

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    Default Re: ... and yet still about Deontay Wilder:

    Quote Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe View Post
    Is he not fighting the winner of Perez/Jennings? Thought I read somewhere that was the other eliminator.
    Nope that was it last I heard. Unless they change minds after that farce. All he does now is sit in his highchair and wait..

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    Default Re: ... and yet still about Deontay Wilder:

    Just watched it on youtube.

    That is the most fixed looking stoppage I have ever seen!

    The left hook was an arm punch and Wilders right glove didnt even touch Scotts head! It didnt even force Scotts gloves to bang in to his head!

    What a fucking joke and how fucking embarrasing!

    Watch! It was orchestrated.

    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jws9K_RTCy4

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    Default Re: ... and yet still about Deontay Wilder:

    Quote Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe View Post
    Is he not fighting the winner of Perez/Jennings? Thought I read somewhere that was the other eliminator.
    Then wait.... and his next fight if either Perez or Jennings, odds are it's Jennings, WILL be the test of tests.

    I'll go with Jennings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ykdadamaja View Post
    ... After that one round farce of a fight last night against Scott, we still have NO IDEA of his long-term fighting ability, or his chin or his heart.

    If it was a fix, which I feel that it was, we were robbed of knowing if Wilder is still a worthy guy worth fighting at the top level and getting title chances.

    That fight showed us less of Wilder as did the fight with Sergei and all the others.

    We saw "some" things with Firtha, and a little glimpse of what he was when he faced Kelvin Price, but that's it....

    I would love to see a Mansour, Pulev, Chagaev, Fury, Chisora, Thompson, Haye and/or Ortiz/Perez/Solis fight for Wilder.

    Please line up Solis, Thompson, Chagaev or Pulev. These are guys still hungry to win....
    I don't see how that could be fixed. If it was fixed, it was the worst performance I ever saw.
    One thing was clear to me, Scott was not eager to engage.

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    Default Re: ... and yet still about Deontay Wilder:

    Scott was being very friendly to his best friend. One day Wilder will step up the competition.
    Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.

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    Default Re: ... and yet still about Deontay Wilder:

    Quote Originally Posted by beenKOed View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ykdadamaja View Post
    ... After that one round farce of a fight last night against Scott, we still have NO IDEA of his long-term fighting ability, or his chin or his heart.

    If it was a fix, which I feel that it was, we were robbed of knowing if Wilder is still a worthy guy worth fighting at the top level and getting title chances.

    That fight showed us less of Wilder as did the fight with Sergei and all the others.

    We saw "some" things with Firtha, and a little glimpse of what he was when he faced Kelvin Price, but that's it....

    I would love to see a Mansour, Pulev, Chagaev, Fury, Chisora, Thompson, Haye and/or Ortiz/Perez/Solis fight for Wilder.

    Please line up Solis, Thompson, Chagaev or Pulev. These are guys still hungry to win....
    I don't see how that could be fixed. If it was fixed, it was the worst performance I ever saw.
    One thing was clear to me, Scott was not eager to engage.
    Too eager not to engage....
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    Default Re: ... and yet still about Deontay Wilder:

    Quote Originally Posted by ykdadamaja View Post
    ... After that one round farce of a fight last night against Scott, we still have NO IDEA of his long-term fighting ability, or his chin or his heart.

    If it was a fix, which I feel that it was, we were robbed of knowing if Wilder is still a worthy guy worth fighting at the top level and getting title chances.

    That fight showed us less of Wilder as did the fight with Sergei and all the others.

    We saw "some" things with Firtha, and a little glimpse of what he was when he faced Kelvin Price, but that's it....

    I would love to see a Mansour, Pulev, Chagaev, Fury, Chisora, Thompson, Haye and/or Ortiz/Perez/Solis fight for Wilder.

    Please line up Solis, Thompson, Chagaev or Pulev. These are guys still hungry to win....
    That's the trouble with the division I guess, there are just about no solid, tested guys who will guarantee rounds against anyone anymore. I don't think a single person you just listed is on a higher level than Malik Scott, whose to say Wilder doesn't blast them all out and invite the same criticism.

    I feel Bryant Jennings, Arreola, Stiverne or Povetkin would be the best opponents for Wilder at this stage. The winner of Mansour/Cunningham or Fury/Chisora would also be great to see.

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    Default Re: ... and yet still about Deontay Wilder:

    Chris Arreola I would bet heavily on to KO Deontay Wilder.

    Natural fighter
    Good skills,
    Great stamina,
    Hard chin,
    Mentally tough,
    Hefty
    Fast
    Tall
    Big cracker punches (singly and in combination)

    Wilder can't match that!

    Arreola is a real fighter and boxer.

    Wilder is a good prospect but one that will ultimately fail against this calibre of opponent.
    "Enough with the games mate! Your messing with the Grand Master!"

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    I'm not a Wilder hater but until he has a real boxing match I can't for the life of me figure out why he is discussed so much on this boxing board.

    I could see discussing his amateur career but his pro career, there's nothing to discuss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    I'm not a Wilder hater but until he has a real boxing match I can't for the life of me figure out why he is discussed so much on this boxing board.

    I could see discussing his amateur career but his pro career, there's nothing to discuss.
    He is of interest because he is a mystery!

    A. Is he one of the best ever punchers? Without a chin or heart.

    B. Is he the biggest hype job in memory? With an above average punch.

    C. Is he the real deal, the one every boxing fan has been waiting for who follows the heavies? With all the heart and chin he will ever need.

    He's a heavyweight with a punch, he's 31-0 with 31 KOs and 18 KOs in the first round. How the hell could he not be of interest to a boxing fan?
    Come Mr Swanson, are you saying you don't want to see him in the ring with Wlad?
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    Quote Originally Posted by beenKOed View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    I'm not a Wilder hater but until he has a real boxing match I can't for the life of me figure out why he is discussed so much on this boxing board.

    I could see discussing his amateur career but his pro career, there's nothing to discuss.
    He is of interest because he is a mystery!

    A. Is he one of the best ever punchers? Without a chin or heart.

    B. Is he the biggest hype job in memory? With an above average punch.

    C. Is he the real deal, the one every boxing fan has been waiting for who follows the heavies? With all the heart and chin he will ever need.

    And each question needs its own thread? No reason to ever step up if coasting makes him so interesting. All I see is different questions nobody has the answer to but people keep asking.

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    Default Re: ... and yet still about Deontay Wilder:

    We might just prefer mysteries in this division because we're not satisfied with most of what we see already. Is there a Santa Claus and how do planes disappear are mysteries worth the time , with heavies fans want statements and answers.

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