Thread: Has Wlad whipped more undefeated fighters than anyone?

Najee Shaheed (16-0-1)

Zoran Vujecic (14-0)

Eliseo Castillo (18-0-1)

Samuel Peter (24-0)

Calvin Brock (29-0)

Sultan Ibragimov (22-0-1)

Ruslan Chagaev (25-0-1)

Mariusz Wach (27-0)

Francesco Pianeta (28-0-1)

Alexander Povetkin (26-0)

Kubrat Pulev (20-0) (assuming he wins)


Not saying those guys are all world beaters, and not saying that being undefeated automatically makes you amazing or better than someone who has a loss, but that does seem like a lot of young, undefeated, hungry guys he's whipped.

Those are 11 opponents with a combined record of 246-0 hahah

As a heavyweight he's also fought a great number of southpaws as well

Pianetta
Thompson x 2
Chagaev
Ibragimov
Byrd x 2
Sanders

Off the top of my head

Dominant.

Originally Posted by SlimTrae

Dominant.

He has been and if he was not around those guys could have been champion, just think of the horror of that!

It must also be said that Wach tried to fight Wladimir with the aid of steroids AND a tampered glove!

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by SlimTrae

Dominant.

He has been and if he was not around those guys could have been champion, just think of the horror of that!

Now now, some of those guys were good fighters. Sam Peter was a good fighter, Povetkin is good, Chagaev was good.

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by SlimTrae

Dominant.

He has been and if he was not around those guys could have been champion, just think of the horror of that!

False logic

Plus if it weren't at least there would have been a championship fight worth watching

Originally Posted by slimtrae

dominant.

dominant

Originally Posted by SlimTrae

Originally Posted by slimtrae

dominant.

dominant

My bad...
EXTREMELY DOMINANT.

Originally Posted by Beanflicker

Najee Shaheed (16-0-1)

Zoran Vujecic (14-0)

Eliseo Castillo (18-0-1)

Samuel Peter (24-0)

Calvin Brock (29-0)

Sultan Ibragimov (22-0-1)

Ruslan Chagaev (25-0-1)

Mariusz Wach (27-0)

Francesco Pianeta (28-0-1)

Alexander Povetkin (26-0)

Kubrat Pulev (20-0) (assuming he wins)


Not saying those guys are all world beaters, and not saying that being undefeated automatically makes you amazing or better than someone who has a loss, but that does seem like a lot of young, undefeated, hungry guys he's whipped.

Wlad is heavyweight because there is no decent black heavies fighters around. He is not a bad white fighter by any means but if this was twenty five years ago. He would have been destroyed. In fact I think the likes of Frank Bruno would have beaten him

Originally Posted by denilson200

Originally Posted by Beanflicker

Najee Shaheed (16-0-1)

Zoran Vujecic (14-0)

Eliseo Castillo (18-0-1)

Samuel Peter (24-0)

Calvin Brock (29-0)

Sultan Ibragimov (22-0-1)

Ruslan Chagaev (25-0-1)

Mariusz Wach (27-0)

Francesco Pianeta (28-0-1)

Alexander Povetkin (26-0)

Kubrat Pulev (20-0) (assuming he wins)


Not saying those guys are all world beaters, and not saying that being undefeated automatically makes you amazing or better than someone who has a loss, but that does seem like a lot of young, undefeated, hungry guys he's whipped.

Wlad is heavyweight because there is no decent black heavies fighters around. He is not a bad white fighter by any means but if this was twenty five years ago. He would have been destroyed. In fact I think the likes of Frank Bruno would have beaten him

You really are a cunt , fuck you.

Originally Posted by Beanflicker

Najee Shaheed (16-0-1)

Zoran Vujecic (14-0)

Eliseo Castillo (18-0-1)

Samuel Peter (24-0)

Calvin Brock (29-0)

Sultan Ibragimov (22-0-1)

Ruslan Chagaev (25-0-1)

Mariusz Wach (27-0)

Francesco Pianeta (28-0-1)

Alexander Povetkin (26-0)

Kubrat Pulev (20-0) (assuming he wins)


Not saying those guys are all world beaters, and not saying that being undefeated automatically makes you amazing or better than someone who has a loss, but that does seem like a lot of young, undefeated, hungry guys he's whipped.

What a woefully misleading fact. Prime example of where stats can sometimes be used to "prove" something that doesn't really exist. The fact that Francesco Pianeta is on that list automatically diminishes whatever importance, if any, that statistic has.

Some of these guys undoubtedly escaped the dreaded "1" in the Loss column by fighting (to that point) bums who were worse than they were. Let's not forget the wide disparity in early records between different up-and-coming fighters. For every Lomachenko, who was thrown to the wolves immediately after turning pro..... you've got probably dozens of Chavez Jr.'s, who only stopped fighting cadavers until well into his pro career.

I am sure the reason dominant fighters such as Wlad/Mayweather/Ali/Hopkins stay at the top because they DONT fight. Throughout history how many sluggers reign champion for years (with a couple of exceptions)? They play a better game of chess and unfortunately for fans the outcome of most fights turn out to be a bore fest. That's just the way it is.

Originally Posted by TitoFan

What a woefully misleading fact. Prime example of where stats can sometimes be used to "prove" something that doesn't really exist. The fact that Francesco Pianeta is on that list automatically diminishes whatever importance, if any, that statistic has.

Some of these guys undoubtedly escaped the dreaded "1" in the Loss column by fighting (to that point) bums who were worse than they were. Let's not forget the wide disparity in early records between different up-and-coming fighters. For every Lomachenko, who was thrown to the wolves immediately after turning pro..... you've got probably dozens of Chavez Jr.'s, who only stopped fighting cadavers until well into his pro career.

How was it "woefully misleading" when I stated right underneath that having an undefeated record doesn't necessarily mean you were a great fighter, or even that you're better than someone who isn't undefeated?

It's just a statistic.