Thread: Kirkland's Chin.

How bad is it?

So bad that Lampley's blowing of Canelo from his ringside seat would have wobbled him if that first left hook from Canelo hadn't.

It's not great, but I think a lot of it is HOW he gets hit.

Because of his brawling, reckless style he usually gets caught flush on the chin with his hands down, he's usually charging into the punch, and he never sees the punches coming because he's usually in the process of firing his own punch. That kind of style is really dangerous, both for you and your opponent.

Originally Posted by Beanflicker

It's not great, but I think a lot of it is HOW he gets hit.

Because of his brawling, reckless style he usually gets caught flush on the chin with his hands down, he's usually charging into the punch, and he never sees the punches coming because he's usually in the process of firing his own punch. That kind of style is really dangerous, both for you and your opponent.

Agree with that.

I think it's weak. Consider this: Canelo couldn't floor Lara, who got dropped twice by Angulo.

He floored Trout, but he turned out to have a weak chin.

Defense doesn't cover the fact that Kirkland was dropped twice, and brutally KO'd. If you have a weak chin, great defense can help, but you'll still have a weak chin.

I don't think you can call his chin weak, he took a lot of bombs that would have stopped most fighters and stayed on his feet before finally get KO'd.

Canelo can punch. He's not necessarily a GGG but he has legit KO power in both hands. Lara and Trout are slick southpaw movers, he never landed the kind of shots on them that he did on Kirkland.

Wow. If you ask me the guys got a great chin. 9 out of ten people would have been planked in the first round.

This is how good Kirkland's chin is:

Originally Posted by IamInuit

Wow. If you ask me the guys got a great chin. 9 out of ten people would have been planked in the first round.

I was thinking his chin is going to be questionable until he starts thinking seriously about defense. Apparently the best defense is not a great offense.

He was lucky Canelo missed so often with those right uppercuts....oooh you knew something was going to land eventually and then it was lights out.


But if Kirkland fought SMART everyone would be calling him a pussy

Originally Posted by Beanflicker

It's not great, but I think a lot of it is HOW he gets hit.

Because of his brawling, reckless style he usually gets caught flush on the chin with his hands down, he's usually charging into the punch, and he never sees the punches coming because he's usually in the process of firing his own punch. That kind of style is really dangerous, both for you and your opponent.

Like shaping up to be a super welter version of Letterlough (R.I.P)

I make no pretenses when I say this, Kirkland could have nullified the affects of punches by being aware of the fact that his balance was pissed poor. His legs were too wide in pursuit and they were too close together in close. Ishida is not he strongest fighter in the division but he manhandled Kirkland and pushed him away with his forearm. There is one more thing, he went backwards too much, straight back and when the end came he seemed from my angle to appear like he was waiting to get hit. It's like he was a kid that got lost at a county fair. Canelo must have been holding him up or wanted o accumulate rounds because if you look at the end of the fight Kirkland is just standing there with a low guard as though this was the end.

Originally Posted by IamInuit

Wow. If you ask me the guys got a great chin. 9 out of ten people would have been planked in the first round.

Very surprised he made it out of the first round.
Round two he seemed to have taken the shots better.
I remember Tito use to survive early knockdown then took shots better as the round wore on.
Same with Kirkland- adding on what you guys have suggested that adds to his woes, with which I agree.

Angulo and especially Joel Julio landed way friggin harder than Ishida, but trainer Ann & Pops had Kirkland in the "wolfe" zone.

He walked through fire in both fights like one of those zombies in the movies that feel no pain.
And rapper fifty cent has the nerve to say: next fight he is going back to Ann.
What for? Too late IMO, that was a damaging KO.

Kirkland is all offense, standing in front of his opponent and trading punches or walking straight in throwing mostly power shots. Hell that's not boxing, that style is called bar room brawling.
He has to start trying to let some of those punches get past him! Lol
It doesn't matter who trains him, they have to work on his defense, in my opinion.
Listening to him talk, I'm starting to think not everything gets through to him.