Thread: Pantera Miranda... What you think now?

OK... Now you know this is my boy and I've been talking him up for a long time. There have been a lot of doubters out there. Hasn't faced anyone good, not really that powerful, big holes in defense, gets winded in the late rounds, never really been tested...

Now that he did what NOBODY has ever done in 44 fights against Howard Eastman, including Hopkins, Joppy, and AA, what is the future for Miranda? He is very young and still improving with every fight.

I really don't see him having trouble with any of the top guys out there. He has proven he can take a hard punch and recover quick. His power is tremendous. The only thing I see that still needs work is his Defense. Much improved, but still I see some holes. I think with another camp or two with Jose Bonilla he will be unstoppable.

Plain & simple...good fighter, good power, needs to work on his defense.

Other than that...he's a good prospect. Still think that there are some unanswered questions...even after last night's fight. He got clocked a few times & didn't really work that out...but he did close the book on Eastman in the end...so what else can you say.

He's good...but that didn't sky rocket him into the stratosphere. Now...if he KO's Abraham then he's got my vote.

Miranda's conditioning and power are outstanding but his balance and footwork need improvement. Also, the accuracy of his punches was not that impressive against Eastman, especially in the 1st few rounds. His overall speed is good, and although his footwork is not exactly graceful, he moves well enough to get the job done. My sense is that he's an excellent fighter who will probably win a belt soon, but that he's not going to become an all-time great. He does not look like a great athlete when I compare him to other great middleweights of the past, such as Hagler, Hopkins, Sugar Ray Robinson and Carlos Monzon. If he does become a great fighter, heart will have a lot to do with it. Maybe he will have a career something like that of Kid Gavilan? I really don't know but that wouldn't be too bad!

Wacko! Man you are a tough sell!
Eastman has never seen the canvas from the likes of AA, Joppy, and Hopkins. Miranda was winning the fight, almost KO'd him in round 3 (if it wasn't for the low blow stoppage I think Eastman was done), and finished business in round 7.
Miranda did take a few hits (but don't most fighters in tough matchups?). I agree his defense needs some work, but how can you still call him a prospect? He is a top contender now. I am fairly confident that if AA comes to America to fight (as he said he would like to do) Miranda will continue his 'new' KO streak.
Gotta love the Reyes gloves!

Originally Posted by wacko3205

Plain & simple...good fighter, good power, needs to work on his defense.

Other than that...he's a good prospect. Still think that there are some unanswered questions...even after last night's fight. He got clocked a few times & didn't really work that out...but he did close the book on Eastman in the end...so what else can you say.

He's good...but that didn't sky rocket him into the stratosphere. Now...if he KO's Abraham then he's got my vote.

CC. I agree with ya Wacko. Immpresive performance that still left some questions unanswered. Defence seems to be his biggest weakness, and a guy like Abrahams would take advantage of that. About Howard Eastman... has almost everything you could want in a fighter but will to win and killer instinct. Hes like the Middleweight Dominick Guinn

Originally Posted by Pantera

Wacko! Man you are a tough sell!

Agreed...but I just calls em like I sees em babe. He's got about as many holes in his D as Jeff Lacy has.

Originally Posted by Pantera

Eastman has never seen the canvas from the likes of AA, Joppy, and Hopkins. Miranda was winning the fight, almost KO'd him in round 3 (if it wasn't for the low blow stoppage I think Eastman was done), and finished business in round 7.

Agreed. I was impressed...but I still aint sold.

Originally Posted by Pantera

Miranda did take a few hits (but don't most fighters in tough matchups?). I agree his defense needs some work, but how can you still call him a prospect? He is a top contender now. I am fairly confident that if AA comes to America to fight (as he said he would like to do) Miranda will continue his 'new' KO streak.
Gotta love the Reyes gloves!

He is a contender climbing to the top...& again...I was impressed...& I am happy for you...but he's a "wait & see'er" for Wacko.

your man done good.

OK... We'll wait and see.
CC for the round by round last night!

Bye Bye Eastman!!!!!!!!!!!



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Originally Posted by wacko3205

He's good...but that didn't sky rocket him into the stratosphere. Now...if he KO's Abraham then he's got my vote.

is this all because before the fight you saw Eastman beating Miranda

Before the fight i picked Eastman, taking nothing away from Miranda he looks a great prospect, who has the power to anyone around 160, but does anyone think time has caught up with Eastman, i didn't think he reacted well to the shots he was taking and at 35 maybe it's time to call it a day, does anyone know if he is going to retire?

Good work from Miranda, got buzzed a few times but Eastman, despite what the commentators said CAN punch. Howards been on the slide for a little while and generally lets himself down when it matters most, but stopping him is an achievement. Well done Pantera.

I think Miranda needs to keep his left hand up and not lead with his hook. I think a trainer like Buddy McGirt could really bring out the boxer in him instead of him going on talent.

Originally Posted by Pantera

OK... We'll wait and see.
CC for the round by round last night!

You are very much welcome...it's always the Wacka's pleasure.

Originally Posted by Starr

Originally Posted by wacko3205

He's good...but that didn't sky rocket him into the stratosphere. Now...if he KO's Abraham then he's got my vote.

is this all because before the fight you saw Eastman beating Miranda

Nope. This is all because of the same thing that I told you regarding Jeff Lacy before Calzaghe beat him...holes in his defense.

Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes

I think Miranda needs to keep his left hand up and not lead with his hook. I think a trainer like Buddy McGirt could really bring out the boxer in him instead of him going on talent.

Mcgirt pretty much ruined Gatti and do about the same to Miranda. He thinks he can make every slugger into a great boxer. He's a jackass. And Wacko, Eastman is better than anyone Taylor had ever faced leading up to his matchup with Hopkins, yet you had it a pick em fight just about. Yeah, I know Taylor is a better boxer, still, level of competition means a lot.