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    Default Why couldn't Marciano beat Holyfield/Tua/Tyson/Foreman/Lewis/Holmes?

    Size?

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    Default Re: Why couldn't Marciano beat Holyfield/Tua/Tyson/Foreman/Lewis/Holmes?

    Because he would have been too old to fight them

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    Default Re: Why couldn't Marciano beat Holyfield/Tua/Tyson/Foreman/Lewis/Holmes?

    He was dead when these fighters where active.
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    Default Re: Why couldn't Marciano beat Holyfield/Tua/Tyson/Foreman/Lewis/Holmes?

    Too small. If Rocky was fighting in the 90s, he probably would have been at 175, maybe even 168. Would anyone here pick Kovalev to beat Klitschko? Different era. Yesterdays HW's are the LHWs/SMWs of today.
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    Default Re: Why couldn't Marciano beat Holyfield/Tua/Tyson/Foreman/Lewis/Holmes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Too small. If Rocky was fighting in the 90s, he probably would have been at 175, maybe even 168. Would anyone here pick Kovalev to beat Klitschko? Different era. Yesterdays HW's are the LHWs/SMWs of today.
    You said it all, Tyson and Tua were close to his height but Tyson fought at 40 lbs heavier and Tua fought at 60 lbs heavier, is there any doubt they both had a bigger punch.

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    Default Re: Why couldn't Marciano beat Holyfield/Tua/Tyson/Foreman/Lewis/Holmes?

    Yup, he weighed 190 pounds in the ring. Take anyone else that size, and I wouldn't give them a prayer against those guys either. Marciano vs Evander Holyfield at Cruiser would have been a hell of a fight, I just don't see how he could have lived with Evan Fields at HW though.

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    Default Re: Why couldn't Marciano beat Holyfield/Tua/Tyson/Foreman/Lewis/Holmes?

    Rocky Marciano

    Would have competed at Cruiserweight.

    How about matching up all the Cruiserweight Champions with Rocky, and throw in
    * Floyd Patterson
    * Jerry Quarry
    * Jimmy Ellis
    * Bob Foster
    * Michael Spinks
    * Ingemar Johansson

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    Default Re: Why couldn't Marciano beat Holyfield/Tua/Tyson/Foreman/Lewis/Holmes?

    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    Yup, he weighed 190 pounds in the ring. Take anyone else that size, and I wouldn't give them a prayer against those guys either. Marciano vs Evander Holyfield at Cruiser would have been a hell of a fight, I just don't see how he could have lived with Evan Fields at HW though.
    For sure. When Marciano weighed in at 183-188, he came into the ring at 183-188. There was no cutting weight for Rocky.

    To put it into perspective, when Kovalev and Pascal fought at 175, Kovalev came into the ring at 189 and Pascal at 185.

    When Badou Jack fought Sierra at LHW, Jack came in at 183 while Sierra came in at 200.

    When Lucian Bute fought Edison Miranda at 168, Bute came into the ring at 182 and Miranda at 185.

    Cruiserweights come to the ring at 215 or more so even then Rocky would be severely outsized. I mean I can't even imagine him in with a 6'3'', 78" reach David Haye.
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    Default Re: Why couldn't Marciano beat Holyfield/Tua/Tyson/Foreman/Lewis/Holmes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Too small. If Rocky was fighting in the 90s, he probably would have been at 175, maybe even 168. Would anyone here pick Kovalev to beat Klitschko? Different era. Yesterdays HW's are the LHWs/SMWs of today.
    Bump.

    I've always contended he would have fought at CW today, but this post adds a different perspective. If he walks around in the 180s, I definitely could see him cutting weight to 175, come in the ring 183-188.
    Opens a whole new way of comparing Rocky with today's fighters.

    WOW! Rocky @ 175 vs Roy Jones Jr., Antonio Tarver. No way would he try to cut down to 168. I think NSBTBell stated he was caught a few times sneaking snacks. Guilty of bananas under the pillow I think? LOL!


    Dream Fight Marciano vs Billy Conn!
    I think he beats every single LHW today be it Bivol, Beterbiev, Pascal, Kov, Jack, Smith.
    Way much better at leveraging shots, generating maximum power. But his stamina would be credited for his KOS over his power.
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    Default Re: Why couldn't Marciano beat Holyfield/Tua/Tyson/Foreman/Lewis/Holmes?

    Quote Originally Posted by SlimTrae View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Too small. If Rocky was fighting in the 90s, he probably would have been at 175, maybe even 168. Would anyone here pick Kovalev to beat Klitschko? Different era. Yesterdays HW's are the LHWs/SMWs of today.
    Bump.

    I've always contended he would have fought at CW today, but this post adds a different perspective. If he walks around in the 180s, I definitely could see him cutting weight to 175, come in the ring 183-188.
    Opens a whole new way of comparing Rocky with today's fighters.

    WOW! Rocky @ 175 vs Roy Jones Jr., Antonio Tarver. No way would he try to cut down to 168. I think NSBTBell stated he was caught a few times sneaking snacks. Guilty of bananas under the pillow I think? LOL!


    Dream Fight Marciano vs Billy Conn!
    I think he beats every single LHW today be it Bivol, Beterbiev, Pascal, Kov, Jack, Smith.
    Way much better at leveraging shots, generating maximum power. But his stamina would be credited for his KOS over his power.
    Michael the jinx Spinx would beat Rocky.
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    Default Re: Why couldn't Marciano beat Holyfield/Tua/Tyson/Foreman/Lewis/Holmes?

    Could Rocky match the intensity of Tua vs The President?

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    Default Re: Why couldn't Marciano beat Holyfield/Tua/Tyson/Foreman/Lewis/Holmes?

    Yes he could throw 1000 punches and that's intensity

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    Default Re: Why couldn't Marciano beat Holyfield/Tua/Tyson/Foreman/Lewis/Holmes?

    marciano was a big strong man. he threw a lot of punches and he knew how to throw punches. that beats lots of guys.

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    Default Re: Why couldn't Marciano beat Holyfield/Tua/Tyson/Foreman/Lewis/Holmes?

    Forgive me if I'm wrong, but did Rocky ever fight anyone under 40 for a world title?

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    Default Re: Why couldn't Marciano beat Holyfield/Tua/Tyson/Foreman/Lewis/Holmes?

    Quote Originally Posted by nuggetdotcom View Post
    Forgive me if I'm wrong, but did Rocky ever fight anyone under 40 for a world title?
    If you mean defending his title then yes, all were under 40 from Walcott to Moore. Some were under 30 years of age.
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