Thread: Last win by any fighter better than this for Fury.

Im interested to know if any other fighter from any weight has had a better win than this since Douglas v Tyson where such a longstandng, dominant, P4P best, future great, unified champion has been beaten so emphatically in his own back yard.

This may qualify for a jog on a sentence.

Once the fog clears with some and they consider the question objectively, no matter how sloppy the fight was or how inactive the fighters were and given the chances Fury was given by 95% of the planet, the length of Wlads spot as commander and chief, the experience, comp level and so on LOL this has to rank right up there in greatest upsets of alltime imo and probably top 5 when considered rationally.

Fury won fair and square , and I may pick other fighters to defeat him ,however one thing I won't do again is take anything away from his achievement .
He deserves to earn big money however long his reign lasts , he hadn't fought anybody until last night and now he is the champ.
Can't think of a bigger win for a while.
Again well done Ross and well done to the new champ.

Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

Fury won fair and square , and I may pick other fighters to defeat him ,however one thing I won't do again is take anything away from his achievement .
He deserves to earn big money however long his reign lasts , he hadn't fought anybody until last night and now he is the champ.
Can't think of a bigger win for a while.
Again well done Ross and well done to the new champ.

Right Al, thankyou!

I wanst being a fan boy or anything like that. I could see his qualities and could see past his physique, talk and background.

Like I said, Liston v Clay!!

There is no win bigger than this at any weight since Douglas beat Tyson. Let that sink in.

The other heavyweight greats have no better win, Lewis, Holyfield. Nor do Mayweather and Pacquiao have a better win! Roy Jones, Oscar De La Hoya, none of them!

Tyson is getting better to!

Originally Posted by ross

Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

Fury won fair and square , and I may pick other fighters to defeat him ,however one thing I won't do again is take anything away from his achievement .
He deserves to earn big money however long his reign lasts , he hadn't fought anybody until last night and now he is the champ.
Can't think of a bigger win for a while.
Again well done Ross and well done to the new champ.

Right Al, thankyou!

I wanst being a fan boy or anything like that. I could see his qualities and could see past his physique, talk and background.

Like I said, Liston v Clay!!

There is no win bigger than this at any weight since Douglas beat Tyson. Let that sink in.

The other heavyweight greats have no better win, Lewis, Holyfield. Nor do Mayweather and Pacquiao have a better win! Roy Jones, Oscar De La Hoya, none of them!

Tyson is getting better to!

Like Al says, it was a massive achievement and he deserves to be where he is. Like Al, I may not choose him to beat every HW out there, but until somebody proves any different, he is the No.1 in the division.
However, the reason you're calling it a bigger victory than the Mayweather, DLH, etc.etc. is because all those proven greats were never as big an underdog because everybody knew they were top class. Tyson did fantastic last night, but there's a long way to go.
I've seen most of the fight now (too bored to watch it all tbh) and I thought it was a superb performance by Fury compared to the rest of his career, and it's not his fault that the first 9 rounds were like Grounhog day. I struggled to give Klitschko any rounds really, I just don't think he could work Fury out, really poor.
That is full credit to Fury.

Originally Posted by Primo Carnera

Originally Posted by ross

Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

Fury won fair and square , and I may pick other fighters to defeat him ,however one thing I won't do again is take anything away from his achievement .
He deserves to earn big money however long his reign lasts , he hadn't fought anybody until last night and now he is the champ.
Can't think of a bigger win for a while.
Again well done Ross and well done to the new champ.

Right Al, thankyou!

I wanst being a fan boy or anything like that. I could see his qualities and could see past his physique, talk and background.

Like I said, Liston v Clay!!

There is no win bigger than this at any weight since Douglas beat Tyson. Let that sink in.

The other heavyweight greats have no better win, Lewis, Holyfield. Nor do Mayweather and Pacquiao have a better win! Roy Jones, Oscar De La Hoya, none of them!

Tyson is getting better to!

Like Al says, it was a massive achievement and he deserves to be where he is. Like Al, I may not choose him to beat every HW out there, but until somebody proves any different, he is the No.1 in the division.
However, the reason you're calling it a bigger victory than the Mayweather, DLH, etc.etc. is because all those proven greats were never as big an underdog because everybody knew they were top class. Tyson did fantastic last night, but there's a long way to go.
I've seen most of the fight now (too bored to watch it all tbh) and I thought it was a superb performance by Fury compared to the rest of his career, and it's not his fault that the first 9 rounds were like Grounhog day. I struggled to give Klitschko any rounds really, I just don't think he could work Fury out, really poor.
That is full credit to Fury.

Got nothing to do with being an underdog.

Name me one win as good as this on anyone elses record since Douglas?

Who has beaten a unified fighter who had been so dominant for so long?

Originally Posted by ross

Originally Posted by Primo Carnera

Originally Posted by ross

Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

Fury won fair and square , and I may pick other fighters to defeat him ,however one thing I won't do again is take anything away from his achievement .
He deserves to earn big money however long his reign lasts , he hadn't fought anybody until last night and now he is the champ.
Can't think of a bigger win for a while.
Again well done Ross and well done to the new champ.

Right Al, thankyou!

I wanst being a fan boy or anything like that. I could see his qualities and could see past his physique, talk and background.

Like I said, Liston v Clay!!

There is no win bigger than this at any weight since Douglas beat Tyson. Let that sink in.

The other heavyweight greats have no better win, Lewis, Holyfield. Nor do Mayweather and Pacquiao have a better win! Roy Jones, Oscar De La Hoya, none of them!

Tyson is getting better to!

Like Al says, it was a massive achievement and he deserves to be where he is. Like Al, I may not choose him to beat every HW out there, but until somebody proves any different, he is the No.1 in the division.
However, the reason you're calling it a bigger victory than the Mayweather, DLH, etc.etc. is because all those proven greats were never as big an underdog because everybody knew they were top class. Tyson did fantastic last night, but there's a long way to go.
I've seen most of the fight now (too bored to watch it all tbh) and I thought it was a superb performance by Fury compared to the rest of his career, and it's not his fault that the first 9 rounds were like Grounhog day. I struggled to give Klitschko any rounds really, I just don't think he could work Fury out, really poor.
That is full credit to Fury.

Got nothing to do with being an underdog.

Name me one win as good as this on anyone elses record since Douglas?

Who has beaten a unified fighter who had been so dominant for so long?

Of course it's got something to do with being an underdog.otherwise why would you mention Douglas?
I mean, I could turn around and say "will Fury have a similar career to Douglas?"
In reality, Wlad is probably the only champ to lose his title after having held it for 11 years in recent times, so obviously it's about being long odds!
Was it a great performance-Yes
Was it better than Hatton's v Tzsyu?
Was it better than Honeyghan v Curry?
Was it better than Benn v McLennan?
So is it about Great Performance or is it about the odds?

Originally Posted by Primo Carnera

Originally Posted by ross

Originally Posted by Primo Carnera

Originally Posted by ross

Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

Fury won fair and square , and I may pick other fighters to defeat him ,however one thing I won't do again is take anything away from his achievement .
He deserves to earn big money however long his reign lasts , he hadn't fought anybody until last night and now he is the champ.
Can't think of a bigger win for a while.
Again well done Ross and well done to the new champ.

Right Al, thankyou!

I wanst being a fan boy or anything like that. I could see his qualities and could see past his physique, talk and background.

Like I said, Liston v Clay!!

There is no win bigger than this at any weight since Douglas beat Tyson. Let that sink in.

The other heavyweight greats have no better win, Lewis, Holyfield. Nor do Mayweather and Pacquiao have a better win! Roy Jones, Oscar De La Hoya, none of them!

Tyson is getting better to!

Like Al says, it was a massive achievement and he deserves to be where he is. Like Al, I may not choose him to beat every HW out there, but until somebody proves any different, he is the No.1 in the division.
However, the reason you're calling it a bigger victory than the Mayweather, DLH, etc.etc. is because all those proven greats were never as big an underdog because everybody knew they were top class. Tyson did fantastic last night, but there's a long way to go.
I've seen most of the fight now (too bored to watch it all tbh) and I thought it was a superb performance by Fury compared to the rest of his career, and it's not his fault that the first 9 rounds were like Grounhog day. I struggled to give Klitschko any rounds really, I just don't think he could work Fury out, really poor.
That is full credit to Fury.

Got nothing to do with being an underdog.

Name me one win as good as this on anyone elses record since Douglas?

Who has beaten a unified fighter who had been so dominant for so long?

Of course it's got something to do with being an underdog.otherwise why would you mention Douglas?
I mean, I could turn around and say "will Fury have a similar career to Douglas?"
In reality, Wlad is probably the only champ to lose his title after having held it for 11 years in recent times, so obviously it's about being long odds!
Was it a great performance-Yes
Was it better than Hatton's v Tzsyu?
Was it better than Honeyghan v Curry?
Was it better than Benn v McLennan?
So is it about Great Performance or is it about the odds?

To be fair it doesn't really matter , fury is hw champ and that's all that matters.

I would argue Hatton's win over Kostya was better. Why? Because like Wlad Kostya was the king of his division and P4P rated, however, the size of men around Hatton's weightclass makes it far stronger in depth than the heavyweight division.

Fury, as terrific a win as it was, beat Vitali's little brother. There would have been no Wlad 10 year "reign" if his big brother wasn't around to beat up the bully's for him.

To be fair to fury , one of the factors was he went into the champs back yard and won, Hatton didn't.

Fair point.

David Haye went into Mormeck's backyard to become the undisputed cruiser champ. So Fury has equalled that at least

Originally Posted by Fenster

Fair point.

David Haye went into Mormeck's backyard to become the undisputed cruiser champ. So Fury has equalled that at least

Indeed

Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

Originally Posted by Primo Carnera

Originally Posted by ross

Originally Posted by Primo Carnera

Originally Posted by ross

Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

Fury won fair and square , and I may pick other fighters to defeat him ,however one thing I won't do again is take anything away from his achievement .
He deserves to earn big money however long his reign lasts , he hadn't fought anybody until last night and now he is the champ.
Can't think of a bigger win for a while.
Again well done Ross and well done to the new champ.

Right Al, thankyou!

I wanst being a fan boy or anything like that. I could see his qualities and could see past his physique, talk and background.

Like I said, Liston v Clay!!

There is no win bigger than this at any weight since Douglas beat Tyson. Let that sink in.

The other heavyweight greats have no better win, Lewis, Holyfield. Nor do Mayweather and Pacquiao have a better win! Roy Jones, Oscar De La Hoya, none of them!

Tyson is getting better to!

Like Al says, it was a massive achievement and he deserves to be where he is. Like Al, I may not choose him to beat every HW out there, but until somebody proves any different, he is the No.1 in the division.
However, the reason you're calling it a bigger victory than the Mayweather, DLH, etc.etc. is because all those proven greats were never as big an underdog because everybody knew they were top class. Tyson did fantastic last night, but there's a long way to go.
I've seen most of the fight now (too bored to watch it all tbh) and I thought it was a superb performance by Fury compared to the rest of his career, and it's not his fault that the first 9 rounds were like Grounhog day. I struggled to give Klitschko any rounds really, I just don't think he could work Fury out, really poor.
That is full credit to Fury.

Got nothing to do with being an underdog.

Name me one win as good as this on anyone elses record since Douglas?

Who has beaten a unified fighter who had been so dominant for so long?

Of course it's got something to do with being an underdog.otherwise why would you mention Douglas?
I mean, I could turn around and say "will Fury have a similar career to Douglas?"
In reality, Wlad is probably the only champ to lose his title after having held it for 11 years in recent times, so obviously it's about being long odds!
Was it a great performance-Yes
Was it better than Hatton's v Tzsyu?
Was it better than Honeyghan v Curry?
Was it better than Benn v McLennan?
So is it about Great Performance or is it about the odds?

To be fair it doesn't really matter , fury is hw champ and that's all that matters.

No, quite right, but I'm just trying to answer the question raised.

Originally Posted by Primo Carnera

Originally Posted by ross

Originally Posted by Primo Carnera

Originally Posted by ross

Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

Fury won fair and square , and I may pick other fighters to defeat him ,however one thing I won't do again is take anything away from his achievement .
He deserves to earn big money however long his reign lasts , he hadn't fought anybody until last night and now he is the champ.
Can't think of a bigger win for a while.
Again well done Ross and well done to the new champ.

Right Al, thankyou!

I wanst being a fan boy or anything like that. I could see his qualities and could see past his physique, talk and background.

Like I said, Liston v Clay!!

There is no win bigger than this at any weight since Douglas beat Tyson. Let that sink in.

The other heavyweight greats have no better win, Lewis, Holyfield. Nor do Mayweather and Pacquiao have a better win! Roy Jones, Oscar De La Hoya, none of them!

Tyson is getting better to!

Like Al says, it was a massive achievement and he deserves to be where he is. Like Al, I may not choose him to beat every HW out there, but until somebody proves any different, he is the No.1 in the division.
However, the reason you're calling it a bigger victory than the Mayweather, DLH, etc.etc. is because all those proven greats were never as big an underdog because everybody knew they were top class. Tyson did fantastic last night, but there's a long way to go.
I've seen most of the fight now (too bored to watch it all tbh) and I thought it was a superb performance by Fury compared to the rest of his career, and it's not his fault that the first 9 rounds were like Grounhog day. I struggled to give Klitschko any rounds really, I just don't think he could work Fury out, really poor.
That is full credit to Fury.

Got nothing to do with being an underdog.

Name me one win as good as this on anyone elses record since Douglas?

Who has beaten a unified fighter who had been so dominant for so long?

Of course it's got something to do with being an underdog.otherwise why would you mention Douglas?
I mean, I could turn around and say "will Fury have a similar career to Douglas?"
In reality, Wlad is probably the only champ to lose his title after having held it for 11 years in recent times, so obviously it's about being long odds!
Was it a great performance-Yes
Was it better than Hatton's v Tzsyu?
Was it better than Honeyghan v Curry?
Was it better than Benn v McLennan?
So is it about Great Performance or is it about the odds?

Tszyu is the closest and maybe equal but Tszyu fought in London, not Oz or Russia. I did actually use this as an example of why you shouldnt all be writing Tyson off along with Clay v Liston.

McClellan was in his first fight at super middle against Benn and was never unified at middle.

Curry? I did say after Douglas v Tyson.

Haye is in a very interesting place.

He would never beat Wlad so now he has a better chance against Fury and wilder.

Haye has timed this perfectly.