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    Oh 1920s Republicans? But what of the whole "Muh parties switched" and "Muh southern strategy"? It's certainly 1 or the other Mr. Wanna blame Republicans for everything. You will have to be patient Kirkland. I know that you want to just dismiss everything but wait and see. The ball is right now rolling towards Stzrok who will testify. Rod Rosenstein will recuse himself or be impeached. And then they will delve into the next matters. During this time the mullahs in Iran will struggle with controlling the population and there may even be a regime change in the coming months. Wait and watch it's really all that you can do it's all any of us can do.
    There's far less chance of any kind of regime change in Iran after Trump has reimposed sanctions and ripped up the nuclear deal. Politicians and pundits on the Iranian version of Fox News are now saying see, we were right, there's no way to deal with the Americans. The regime now has something to blame for the economy not improving, any politician advocating neing more pro-western has a much tougher job making that argument with the Iranian people. And of course this Iran thing is part of the Q Anon nonsense, isn't it? Liberal westerners and the Iranian regime are working together to do something or other, right? Maybe John McCain will speak out in favour of Iranian reformers and that will spark a revolution over there. That is if he's allowed to under the terms of his deal with prosecutors. He's wearing an ankle monitor so they can keep an eye on him without locking him up, isn't that right? Even though he's been found guilty of whatever it is. And Huma too! And Chelsea! All wearing ankle monitors and somehow not locked up yet. And look at this fucknut. He wants to see the "real" IG report too. The one that Trump already has that will blow the lid off this whole conspiracy but so far he hasn't mad eit public yet. https://edition.cnn.com/2018/06/15/u...dam/index.html You said that the mainstream media would start covering qanon, well there's some coverage. And I know why you didn't want to read an article written by somebody called Rothschild. Because the Rothschild banking family are a huge part of this conspiracy. I should have known. And obviously anybody with the surname Rothschild is related to them. What do you think Strozk is going to say when he testifies? And what is Rosenstein hiding exactly? You know he's a Trump appointee, right? Trump appointed him deputy AG? And what are these "next matters" Lyle?
    iran doesn’t give a fuck about good relations with US. One of the schticks they use to stay in power is to incite the people to protest the US and make anti west statements. Obama tried dealing with them,I supported that I think it makes to make talks when what’s been going on has accomplished nothing it makes sense to smooth things over with countries where conflict exist but I did like the dealToo many holes and too many restriction Iran has against letting inspectors see shit. Plus the C-4 full off cash was a bit strange
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    Where is the outrage at Trump leaving the human rights council? Seeking to promote the laughable idea that it is anti-Israel?

    Where is your outrage at kids being locked up in cages by a so called civilized country?

    Where the fuck is your outrage at Trump boasting about only 64 people having lost their lives to the hurricane in Puerto Rico when the actual number is in excess of 4000 more than the number killed in 9/11.

    What a load of tribal bullshit.
    The UN is a piece of shit, the UN HRC is an even bigger piece of shit.

    As of 2018, Israel has been condemned in 78 resolutions by the UN Human Rights Council since its creation in 2006—the Council has resolved more resolutions condemning Israel than the rest of the world combined....how's that for "Laughably anti-Israel" ? Meanwhile the UN HRC's statement on Sudan, a country with MANY human rights abuses as documented by the Council's working groups, it has expressed "deep concern".....ah but no resolutions though


    LMAO, you mean the trafficked kids and "children" ILLEGALLY entering the United States...THOSE kids....well they haven't been kept in cages since the Obama Administration. And again President Trump didn't write the law, he didn't make the law, he didn't vote on the law, he's enforcing the law as is his duty as President. It's CONGRESS who writes the laws and President Trump has called on them to act, and a House bill has been floated that would fix the problem but DEMOCRAT Chuck Schumer isn't finished using this crisis yet so he opposes fixing the situation. Abraham Lincoln said "The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly" and that is exactly what Trump is doing, but again it's not HIS place as President to write the laws, that is the job of CONGRESS. Anything done with an Executive Order can be UNdone with an Executive Order which is why Obama's legacy has withered away so quickly.


    While the 64 number might not be true, the 4,000 number is kinda in doubt as well. It's an ESTIMATE.


    Anything else you want to bitch about?
    The child separation thing isn't the law, it's a Trump administration policy announced publicly by Sessions a couple of months ago. Trump can end the problem with a phone call as a whole bunch of senior Republicans have now come out and admitted. This is what happens when you get your news from crazy places. Watch:

    https://twitter.com/megwagner/status...8%2Findex.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    HERE ARE THE PHOTOS OF OBAMA’S ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT DETENTION FACILITIES THE MEDIA WON’T SHOW YOU
    http://dailycaller.com/2018/06/19/ph...ion-facilities
    The media and political class become more and more outraged over the Trump administration’s decision to detain and prosecute immigrants illegally crossing the border.

    Lost in the debate is any acknowledgment that President Obama’s administration also used detention facilities.

    Current U.S. immigration laws, when enforced, have the consequence of temporarily separating adults who arrive with children into separate detention facilities in order to prosecute the adults.

    The policy of prosecuting immigrants for crossing the border illegally has been in place for multiple administrations. The Obama administration prosecuted half a million illegal immigrants and similarly separated families in the process. So did the Bush administration.



    Why are children separated from their "parents" you might ask...funny story

    JANET RENO, ATTORNEY GENERAL, et al., PETITIONERS v. JENNY LISETTE FLORES et al.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reno_v._Flores
    Reno v. Flores, 507 U.S. 292 (1993) was a Supreme Court of the United States case in which the Court held that the Immigration and Naturalization Service’s regulations regarding the release of alien unaccompanied minors did not violate the Due Process Clause of the United States Constitution.

    In 1997, the parties agreed to a consent decree in which the litigation would end once the government implemented certain standards for the detention, treatment, and release of unaccompanied alien minors. As of June 2018, the litigation is ongoing.



    President Trump will be signing an Executive Order to try and fix the immediate situation but CONGRESS must pass laws to permanently fix that issue....and NO we're not taking anyone and everyone who can drag their carcass across the fucking border.
    Trump's no backing down/look tough pathology is going to bite him in the arse here. He's trying to bullshit his way out of this and put the eventual blame for the policy on some judge but voters aren't going to fall for it. Apart from the ones you can fool all of the time.............

    The President says he’s signing an executive order to end family separations. The actual aim seems to be to pick a fight with the courts and allow separations to continue while blaming judges. According to The New York Times, the President will sign an executive order allowing children to be detained indefinitely with their parents. The problem is that that violates a 1997 consent decree saying that you can’t detain/imprison children for more than 20 days (technically what’s currently happening isn’t detention). It straight up violates that order. So what will almost inevitably happen is that a court will step in, say you can’t do that and then Trump will announce that the judge is forcing him to keep separating families.

    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/trumps-ploy

    He's either going to have to publicly back down on this or own the policy on an ongoing basis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Oh 1920s Republicans? But what of the whole "Muh parties switched" and "Muh southern strategy"? It's certainly 1 or the other Mr. Wanna blame Republicans for everything. You will have to be patient Kirkland. I know that you want to just dismiss everything but wait and see. The ball is right now rolling towards Stzrok who will testify. Rod Rosenstein will recuse himself or be impeached. And then they will delve into the next matters. During this time the mullahs in Iran will struggle with controlling the population and there may even be a regime change in the coming months. Wait and watch it's really all that you can do it's all any of us can do.
    There's far less chance of any kind of regime change in Iran after Trump has reimposed sanctions and ripped up the nuclear deal. Politicians and pundits on the Iranian version of Fox News are now saying see, we were right, there's no way to deal with the Americans. The regime now has something to blame for the economy not improving, any politician advocating neing more pro-western has a much tougher job making that argument with the Iranian people. And of course this Iran thing is part of the Q Anon nonsense, isn't it? Liberal westerners and the Iranian regime are working together to do something or other, right? Maybe John McCain will speak out in favour of Iranian reformers and that will spark a revolution over there. That is if he's allowed to under the terms of his deal with prosecutors. He's wearing an ankle monitor so they can keep an eye on him without locking him up, isn't that right? Even though he's been found guilty of whatever it is. And Huma too! And Chelsea! All wearing ankle monitors and somehow not locked up yet. And look at this fucknut. He wants to see the "real" IG report too. The one that Trump already has that will blow the lid off this whole conspiracy but so far he hasn't mad eit public yet. https://edition.cnn.com/2018/06/15/u...dam/index.html You said that the mainstream media would start covering qanon, well there's some coverage. And I know why you didn't want to read an article written by somebody called Rothschild. Because the Rothschild banking family are a huge part of this conspiracy. I should have known. And obviously anybody with the surname Rothschild is related to them. What do you think Strozk is going to say when he testifies? And what is Rosenstein hiding exactly? You know he's a Trump appointee, right? Trump appointed him deputy AG? And what are these "next matters" Lyle?
    iran doesn’t give a fuck about good relations with US. One of the schticks they use to stay in power is to incite the people to protest the US and make anti west statements. Obama tried dealing with them,I supported that I think it makes to make talks when what’s been going on has accomplished nothing it makes sense to smooth things over with countries where conflict exist but I did like the dealToo many holes and too many restriction Iran has against letting inspectors see shit
    Total access to all Iranian nuclear sites? Inspectors permanently on the ground? Iran don't care about good relations with America? Certainly the hardliners don't but the reformists did this deal. Now ripping it up has empowered the hardliners again and sidelined the reformists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    HERE ARE THE PHOTOS OF OBAMA’S ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT DETENTION FACILITIES THE MEDIA WON’T SHOW YOU
    http://dailycaller.com/2018/06/19/ph...ion-facilities
    The media and political class become more and more outraged over the Trump administration’s decision to detain and prosecute immigrants illegally crossing the border.

    Lost in the debate is any acknowledgment that President Obama’s administration also used detention facilities.

    Current U.S. immigration laws, when enforced, have the consequence of temporarily separating adults who arrive with children into separate detention facilities in order to prosecute the adults.

    The policy of prosecuting immigrants for crossing the border illegally has been in place for multiple administrations. The Obama administration prosecuted half a million illegal immigrants and similarly separated families in the process. So did the Bush administration.



    Why are children separated from their "parents" you might ask...funny story

    JANET RENO, ATTORNEY GENERAL, et al., PETITIONERS v. JENNY LISETTE FLORES et al.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reno_v._Flores
    Reno v. Flores, 507 U.S. 292 (1993) was a Supreme Court of the United States case in which the Court held that the Immigration and Naturalization Service’s regulations regarding the release of alien unaccompanied minors did not violate the Due Process Clause of the United States Constitution.

    In 1997, the parties agreed to a consent decree in which the litigation would end once the government implemented certain standards for the detention, treatment, and release of unaccompanied alien minors. As of June 2018, the litigation is ongoing.



    President Trump will be signing an Executive Order to try and fix the immediate situation but CONGRESS must pass laws to permanently fix that issue....and NO we're not taking anyone and everyone who can drag their carcass across the fucking border.
    Trump's no backing down/look tough pathology is going to bite him in the arse here. He's trying to bullshit his way out of this and put the eventual blame for the policy on some judge but voters aren't going to fall for it. Apart from the ones you can fool all of the time.............

    The President says he’s signing an executive order to end family separations. The actual aim seems to be to pick a fight with the courts and allow separations to continue while blaming judges. According to The New York Times, the President will sign an executive order allowing children to be detained indefinitely with their parents. The problem is that that violates a 1997 consent decree saying that you can’t detain/imprison children for more than 20 days (technically what’s currently happening isn’t detention). It straight up violates that order. So what will almost inevitably happen is that a court will step in, say you can’t do that and then Trump will announce that the judge is forcing him to keep separating families.

    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/trumps-ploy

    He's either going to have to publicly back down on this or own the policy on an ongoing basis.
    Kirk ur full of shit. This shit has been going on for awhile, no one gave a shit now it’s a big media issue. The parents are criminals. There in lay the problem. It’s shiitybto break up families but it’s been goin on. If trump has to cave on this one he will make a deal on something else. It’s great for politicians to stand up and say don’t seperats families. It’s a safe issue, but if they say it about own country it’s portrayed as racist

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Oh 1920s Republicans? But what of the whole "Muh parties switched" and "Muh southern strategy"? It's certainly 1 or the other Mr. Wanna blame Republicans for everything. You will have to be patient Kirkland. I know that you want to just dismiss everything but wait and see. The ball is right now rolling towards Stzrok who will testify. Rod Rosenstein will recuse himself or be impeached. And then they will delve into the next matters. During this time the mullahs in Iran will struggle with controlling the population and there may even be a regime change in the coming months. Wait and watch it's really all that you can do it's all any of us can do.
    There's far less chance of any kind of regime change in Iran after Trump has reimposed sanctions and ripped up the nuclear deal. Politicians and pundits on the Iranian version of Fox News are now saying see, we were right, there's no way to deal with the Americans. The regime now has something to blame for the economy not improving, any politician advocating neing more pro-western has a much tougher job making that argument with the Iranian people. And of course this Iran thing is part of the Q Anon nonsense, isn't it? Liberal westerners and the Iranian regime are working together to do something or other, right? Maybe John McCain will speak out in favour of Iranian reformers and that will spark a revolution over there. That is if he's allowed to under the terms of his deal with prosecutors. He's wearing an ankle monitor so they can keep an eye on him without locking him up, isn't that right? Even though he's been found guilty of whatever it is. And Huma too! And Chelsea! All wearing ankle monitors and somehow not locked up yet. And look at this fucknut. He wants to see the "real" IG report too. The one that Trump already has that will blow the lid off this whole conspiracy but so far he hasn't mad eit public yet. https://edition.cnn.com/2018/06/15/u...dam/index.html You said that the mainstream media would start covering qanon, well there's some coverage. And I know why you didn't want to read an article written by somebody called Rothschild. Because the Rothschild banking family are a huge part of this conspiracy. I should have known. And obviously anybody with the surname Rothschild is related to them. What do you think Strozk is going to say when he testifies? And what is Rosenstein hiding exactly? You know he's a Trump appointee, right? Trump appointed him deputy AG? And what are these "next matters" Lyle?
    iran doesn’t give a fuck about good relations with US. One of the schticks they use to stay in power is to incite the people to protest the US and make anti west statements. Obama tried dealing with them,I supported that I think it makes to make talks when what’s been going on has accomplished nothing it makes sense to smooth things over with countries where conflict exist but I did like the dealToo many holes and too many restriction Iran has against letting inspectors see shit
    Total access to all Iranian nuclear sites? Inspectors permanently on the ground? Iran don't care about good relations with America? Certainly the hardliners don't but the reformists did this deal. Now ripping it up has empowered the hardliners again and sidelined the reformists.
    It was a shit deal no total acces that is wrong. Trump campaigned on it and he followed through, good to see

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    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    HERE ARE THE PHOTOS OF OBAMA’S ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT DETENTION FACILITIES THE MEDIA WON’T SHOW YOU
    http://dailycaller.com/2018/06/19/ph...ion-facilities
    The media and political class become more and more outraged over the Trump administration’s decision to detain and prosecute immigrants illegally crossing the border.

    Lost in the debate is any acknowledgment that President Obama’s administration also used detention facilities.

    Current U.S. immigration laws, when enforced, have the consequence of temporarily separating adults who arrive with children into separate detention facilities in order to prosecute the adults.

    The policy of prosecuting immigrants for crossing the border illegally has been in place for multiple administrations. The Obama administration prosecuted half a million illegal immigrants and similarly separated families in the process. So did the Bush administration.



    Why are children separated from their "parents" you might ask...funny story

    JANET RENO, ATTORNEY GENERAL, et al., PETITIONERS v. JENNY LISETTE FLORES et al.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reno_v._Flores
    Reno v. Flores, 507 U.S. 292 (1993) was a Supreme Court of the United States case in which the Court held that the Immigration and Naturalization Service’s regulations regarding the release of alien unaccompanied minors did not violate the Due Process Clause of the United States Constitution.

    In 1997, the parties agreed to a consent decree in which the litigation would end once the government implemented certain standards for the detention, treatment, and release of unaccompanied alien minors. As of June 2018, the litigation is ongoing.



    President Trump will be signing an Executive Order to try and fix the immediate situation but CONGRESS must pass laws to permanently fix that issue....and NO we're not taking anyone and everyone who can drag their carcass across the fucking border.
    Trump's no backing down/look tough pathology is going to bite him in the arse here. He's trying to bullshit his way out of this and put the eventual blame for the policy on some judge but voters aren't going to fall for it. Apart from the ones you can fool all of the time.............

    The President says he’s signing an executive order to end family separations. The actual aim seems to be to pick a fight with the courts and allow separations to continue while blaming judges. According to The New York Times, the President will sign an executive order allowing children to be detained indefinitely with their parents. The problem is that that violates a 1997 consent decree saying that you can’t detain/imprison children for more than 20 days (technically what’s currently happening isn’t detention). It straight up violates that order. So what will almost inevitably happen is that a court will step in, say you can’t do that and then Trump will announce that the judge is forcing him to keep separating families.

    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/trumps-ploy

    He's either going to have to publicly back down on this or own the policy on an ongoing basis.
    Kirk ur full of shit. This shit has been going on for awhile, no one gave a shit now it’s a big media issue. The parents are criminals. There in lay the problem. It’s shiitybto break up families but it’s been goin on. If trump has to cave on this one he will make a deal on something else. It’s great for politicians to stand up and say don’t seperats families. It’s a safe issue, but if they say it about own country it’s portrayed as racist
    It's been going on for a couple of months and liberals have been giving a shit all of that time. It's only just become a major issue due to all of the work by liberal groups to publicise it. I've been reading about it for weeks now and I don't read much about that kind of thing.

    You've got to admit there's a thoughline connecting all the worst moments and policies of this administration; Charlottesville, the travel ban, Puerto Rico, family separation and so on. You don't have to admit it. It's all a massive coincidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
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    Oh 1920s Republicans? But what of the whole "Muh parties switched" and "Muh southern strategy"? It's certainly 1 or the other Mr. Wanna blame Republicans for everything. You will have to be patient Kirkland. I know that you want to just dismiss everything but wait and see. The ball is right now rolling towards Stzrok who will testify. Rod Rosenstein will recuse himself or be impeached. And then they will delve into the next matters. During this time the mullahs in Iran will struggle with controlling the population and there may even be a regime change in the coming months. Wait and watch it's really all that you can do it's all any of us can do.
    There's far less chance of any kind of regime change in Iran after Trump has reimposed sanctions and ripped up the nuclear deal. Politicians and pundits on the Iranian version of Fox News are now saying see, we were right, there's no way to deal with the Americans. The regime now has something to blame for the economy not improving, any politician advocating neing more pro-western has a much tougher job making that argument with the Iranian people. And of course this Iran thing is part of the Q Anon nonsense, isn't it? Liberal westerners and the Iranian regime are working together to do something or other, right? Maybe John McCain will speak out in favour of Iranian reformers and that will spark a revolution over there. That is if he's allowed to under the terms of his deal with prosecutors. He's wearing an ankle monitor so they can keep an eye on him without locking him up, isn't that right? Even though he's been found guilty of whatever it is. And Huma too! And Chelsea! All wearing ankle monitors and somehow not locked up yet. And look at this fucknut. He wants to see the "real" IG report too. The one that Trump already has that will blow the lid off this whole conspiracy but so far he hasn't mad eit public yet. https://edition.cnn.com/2018/06/15/u...dam/index.html You said that the mainstream media would start covering qanon, well there's some coverage. And I know why you didn't want to read an article written by somebody called Rothschild. Because the Rothschild banking family are a huge part of this conspiracy. I should have known. And obviously anybody with the surname Rothschild is related to them. What do you think Strozk is going to say when he testifies? And what is Rosenstein hiding exactly? You know he's a Trump appointee, right? Trump appointed him deputy AG? And what are these "next matters" Lyle?
    iran doesn’t give a fuck about good relations with US. One of the schticks they use to stay in power is to incite the people to protest the US and make anti west statements. Obama tried dealing with them,I supported that I think it makes to make talks when what’s been going on has accomplished nothing it makes sense to smooth things over with countries where conflict exist but I did like the dealToo many holes and too many restriction Iran has against letting inspectors see shit
    Total access to all Iranian nuclear sites? Inspectors permanently on the ground? Iran don't care about good relations with America? Certainly the hardliners don't but the reformists did this deal. Now ripping it up has empowered the hardliners again and sidelined the reformists.
    It was a shit deal no total acces that is wrong. Trump campaigned on it and he followed through, good to see
    He's great at ripping deals up and undoing things but so far he hasn't actually done anything substantial. But he's now having to deal in real time with the consequences of his decisions. For thirty years he's been telling people what a great job he'd do if he was prez.

    He could make all kinds of promises without having to back them up. He's promised universal healthcare that would be much better and cheaper than anything else on offer, eliminate the national debt, create massive economic growth and so on. Now he's got to deliver on those promises. He's inherited an economy heading towards the end of the longest expansion in history and he's getting al the credit for it but if/when it goes south the cushion that's allowing him to skate over everything else he's done isn't going to be there.

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    I see no reason the market can’t continue like this for a number of years. Will a recession come sure it has to its the law. You can read plenty economist who say the end is near and just as many who present numbers saying it’s in the bottom of the ninth but we are going to have extra innings or continue this way. We are in correction territory but we do have several sectors doing well with a lot of investments in business not just buy backs as u claim. Reinvest will outpace buy backs. I think that is your issue, you look at only one source or point of view and take it as fact. There are plenty of ecomics u can grab that are fishy but that is how countries work these days. Obama increased the debt by over 9 trillion dollars. I don’t think the debt even matters anymore. A number will be picked that is acceptable and the cost of the country will just include that. 20 trillion ain’t gonna be paid back and it will grow I’d like to point out all the other shit u are wrong with but I don’t have time


    The Obama administration actually expanded the system of detaining families – typically mothers and their minor children – after a huge surge of Central Americans along the U.S.-Mexican border in 2014. The policy resulted in many minors being detained in various locations, in much-criticized conditions, either with their families or by themselves, if they had crossed the border alone.

    Videos and photos at the time showed children in tears, many of them still wearing dirty clothes, in detention facilities where they were kept with their families. The conditions -- which ranged from six adults and children sleeping crammed on two mattresses laid out on concrete floors, to sick minors not receiving medical care -- were documented in many news accounts and reports by human rights groups.

    At the time, Obama administration officials argued they had no choice but to implement policies intended to deter families from entering the U.S. illegally. Trump administration officials have made similar arguments.

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    There's far less chance of any kind of regime change in Iran after Trump has reimposed sanctions and ripped up the nuclear deal. Politicians and pundits on the Iranian version of Fox News are now saying see, we were right, there's no way to deal with the Americans. The regime now has something to blame for the economy not improving, any politician advocating neing more pro-western has a much tougher job making that argument with the Iranian people. And of course this Iran thing is part of the Q Anon nonsense, isn't it? Liberal westerners and the Iranian regime are working together to do something or other, right? Maybe John McCain will speak out in favour of Iranian reformers and that will spark a revolution over there. That is if he's allowed to under the terms of his deal with prosecutors. He's wearing an ankle monitor so they can keep an eye on him without locking him up, isn't that right? Even though he's been found guilty of whatever it is. And Huma too! And Chelsea! All wearing ankle monitors and somehow not locked up yet. And look at this fucknut. He wants to see the "real" IG report too. The one that Trump already has that will blow the lid off this whole conspiracy but so far he hasn't mad eit public yet. https://edition.cnn.com/2018/06/15/u...dam/index.html You said that the mainstream media would start covering qanon, well there's some coverage. And I know why you didn't want to read an article written by somebody called Rothschild. Because the Rothschild banking family are a huge part of this conspiracy. I should have known. And obviously anybody with the surname Rothschild is related to them. What do you think Strozk is going to say when he testifies? And what is Rosenstein hiding exactly? You know he's a Trump appointee, right? Trump appointed him deputy AG? And what are these "next matters" Lyle?
    Well if YOU say Iran's regime will stay then I mean OBVIOUSLY it'll stay and for exactly the reasons you said...because you are never wrong. I mean what I see is women standing up to being forced to wear the hijab and I see a lot of support around those women, the PEOPLE of Iran are pissed off, they actually like the West and they are really missing the Shah right now...#Pahlavi on twitter see for yourself

    The Iran Deal was a shitty deal made by weak leaders.

    I guess we'll just wait and see what happens to McCain and Huma...not sure Chelsea has been discussed at all.

    President Trump has the:
    1. Original IG unredacted report
    2. Modified IG unredacted report [RR version]
    3. Modified IG redacted report [RR version]
    4. IG summary notes re: obstruction(s) to obtain select info (classified)

    #3 was the IG report that was released 6/14/2018...we've already had doubts cast over how good that report is and slowly but surely we'll be seeing the other reports which will indeed uncover wrongdoing by Rod Rosenstein because Rod Rosenstein was involved in criminal activities and then he tried to cover that up....not going to be good for him going forward.

    Sealed indictments...sealed, unreleased, criminals in the crosshairs aren't arrested yet got it?

    H.R. McMaster was also a Trump appointee but he was a part of the swamp, again you're looking at this through the lens of "Republican = Good for Trump and Democrat = Bad for Trump" that's not necessarily the case here. Bad actors are bad actors Republican, Democrat, whatever.

    The Rothschilds certainly are a big part of the "conspiracy", you can pretty much tie them to every single modern day war the world over. Regardless of whether or not that reporter is related to THE family his piece was a whole lot of nothing.

    Rosenstein is hiding the fact that he helped get the FISA warrants. Trump appointed Rosenstein yes, way to pay attention. Trump also fired Comey and who said Trump would be well within his right to to fire Comey ROD ROSENSTEIN and that's why Trump wasn't getting popped for firing Comey who is now shown to be completely and utterly biased and inept.
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    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    I see no reason the market can’t continue like this for a number of years. Will a recession come sure it has to its the law. You can read plenty economist who say the end is near and just as many who present numbers saying it’s in the bottom of the ninth but we are going to have extra innings or continue this way. We are in correction territory but we do have several sectors doing well with a lot of investments in business not just buy backs as u claim. Reinvest will outpace buy backs. I think that is your issue, you look at only one source or point of view and take it as fact. There are plenty of ecomics u can grab that are fishy but that is how countries work these days. Obama increased the debt by over 9 trillion dollars. I don’t think the debt even matters anymore. A number will be picked that is acceptable and the cost of the country will just include that. 20 trillion ain’t gonna be paid back and it will grow I’d like to point out all the other shit u are wrong with but I don’t have time


    The Obama administration actually expanded the system of detaining families – typically mothers and their minor children – after a huge surge of Central Americans along the U.S.-Mexican border in 2014. The policy resulted in many minors being detained in various locations, in much-criticized conditions, either with their families or by themselves, if they had crossed the border alone.

    Videos and photos at the time showed children in tears, many of them still wearing dirty clothes, in detention facilities where they were kept with their families. The conditions -- which ranged from six adults and children sleeping crammed on two mattresses laid out on concrete floors, to sick minors not receiving medical care -- were documented in many news accounts and reports by human rights groups.

    At the time, Obama administration officials argued they had no choice but to implement policies intended to deter families from entering the U.S. illegally. Trump administration officials have made similar arguments.

    The stock market is not the economy. The economy may well keep on ticking for a few more years. It may not. Right now, the last quaret anyway, business investment is entirely flat. Meanwhile stock buybacks are breaking all records, almost 90% of the corporate tax cuts are being funneled into buying back stock which makes shareholders happy as their stock goes up in value and enriches executives as they get massive bonuses for the stock going up in value. I'm not looking at one number or one anything, I read economic data from the major economies seven hours a day five days a week and I read five times faster than you do. That's like you reading for 175 hours a week and 24 x 7 is 168.

    You can point out the other stuff I'm wrong about anytime. If you can make some kind of coherent statement about debt instead of whatever the hell that is then I'll reply to it.

    And yes Obama did boot a lot of immigrants out. He kicked people out of the country at a much higher rate than Trump has. But he didn't separate families while doing so. That's the thing that is causing problems for Trump and that's why he's now desperately trying to find a way out of the situation he's put himself in without having looked like he backed down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    I see no reason the market can’t continue like this for a number of years. Will a recession come sure it has to its the law. You can read plenty economist who say the end is near and just as many who present numbers saying it’s in the bottom of the ninth but we are going to have extra innings or continue this way. We are in correction territory but we do have several sectors doing well with a lot of investments in business not just buy backs as u claim. Reinvest will outpace buy backs. I think that is your issue, you look at only one source or point of view and take it as fact. There are plenty of ecomics u can grab that are fishy but that is how countries work these days. Obama increased the debt by over 9 trillion dollars. I don’t think the debt even matters anymore. A number will be picked that is acceptable and the cost of the country will just include that. 20 trillion ain’t gonna be paid back and it will grow I’d like to point out all the other shit u are wrong with but I don’t have time


    The Obama administration actually expanded the system of detaining families – typically mothers and their minor children – after a huge surge of Central Americans along the U.S.-Mexican border in 2014. The policy resulted in many minors being detained in various locations, in much-criticized conditions, either with their families or by themselves, if they had crossed the border alone.

    Videos and photos at the time showed children in tears, many of them still wearing dirty clothes, in detention facilities where they were kept with their families. The conditions -- which ranged from six adults and children sleeping crammed on two mattresses laid out on concrete floors, to sick minors not receiving medical care -- were documented in many news accounts and reports by human rights groups.

    At the time, Obama administration officials argued they had no choice but to implement policies intended to deter families from entering the U.S. illegally. Trump administration officials have made similar arguments.

    The stock market is not the economy. The economy may well keep on ticking for a few more years. It may not. Right now, the last quaret anyway, business investment is entirely flat. Meanwhile stock buybacks are breaking all records, almost 90% of the corporate tax cuts are being funneled into buying back stock which makes shareholders happy as their stock goes up in value and enriches executives as they get massive bonuses for the stock going up in value. I'm not looking at one number or one anything, I read economic data from the major economies seven hours a day five days a week and I read five times faster than you do. That's like you reading for 175 hours a week and 24 x 7 is 168.

    You can point out the other stuff I'm wrong about anytime. If you can make some kind of coherent statement about debt instead of whatever the hell that is then I'll reply to it.

    And yes Obama did boot a lot of immigrants out. He kicked people out of the country at a much higher rate than Trump has. But he didn't separate families while doing so. That's the thing that is causing problems for Trump and that's why he's now desperately trying to find a way out of the situation he's put himself in without having looked like he backed down.
    Your numbers are wrong on buybacks sir

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    There's far less chance of any kind of regime change in Iran after Trump has reimposed sanctions and ripped up the nuclear deal. Politicians and pundits on the Iranian version of Fox News are now saying see, we were right, there's no way to deal with the Americans. The regime now has something to blame for the economy not improving, any politician advocating neing more pro-western has a much tougher job making that argument with the Iranian people. And of course this Iran thing is part of the Q Anon nonsense, isn't it? Liberal westerners and the Iranian regime are working together to do something or other, right? Maybe John McCain will speak out in favour of Iranian reformers and that will spark a revolution over there. That is if he's allowed to under the terms of his deal with prosecutors. He's wearing an ankle monitor so they can keep an eye on him without locking him up, isn't that right? Even though he's been found guilty of whatever it is. And Huma too! And Chelsea! All wearing ankle monitors and somehow not locked up yet. And look at this fucknut. He wants to see the "real" IG report too. The one that Trump already has that will blow the lid off this whole conspiracy but so far he hasn't mad eit public yet. https://edition.cnn.com/2018/06/15/u...dam/index.html You said that the mainstream media would start covering qanon, well there's some coverage. And I know why you didn't want to read an article written by somebody called Rothschild. Because the Rothschild banking family are a huge part of this conspiracy. I should have known. And obviously anybody with the surname Rothschild is related to them. What do you think Strozk is going to say when he testifies? And what is Rosenstein hiding exactly? You know he's a Trump appointee, right? Trump appointed him deputy AG? And what are these "next matters" Lyle?
    Well if YOU say Iran's regime will stay then I mean OBVIOUSLY it'll stay and for exactly the reasons you said...because you are never wrong. I mean what I see is women standing up to being forced to wear the hijab and I see a lot of support around those women, the PEOPLE of Iran are pissed off, they actually like the West and they are really missing the Shah right now...#Pahlavi on twitter see for yourself

    The Iran Deal was a shitty deal made by weak leaders.

    I guess we'll just wait and see what happens to McCain and Huma...not sure Chelsea has been discussed at all.

    President Trump has the:
    1. Original IG unredacted report
    2. Modified IG unredacted report [RR version]
    3. Modified IG redacted report [RR version]
    4. IG summary notes re: obstruction(s) to obtain select info (classified)

    #3 was the IG report that was released 6/14/2018...we've already had doubts cast over how good that report is and slowly but surely we'll be seeing the other reports which will indeed uncover wrongdoing by Rod Rosenstein because Rod Rosenstein was involved in criminal activities and then he tried to cover that up....not going to be good for him going forward.

    Sealed indictments...sealed, unreleased, criminals in the crosshairs aren't arrested yet got it?

    H.R. McMaster was also a Trump appointee but he was a part of the swamp, again you're looking at this through the lens of "Republican = Good for Trump and Democrat = Bad for Trump" that's not necessarily the case here. Bad actors are bad actors Republican, Democrat, whatever.

    The Rothschilds certainly are a big part of the "conspiracy", you can pretty much tie them to every single modern day war the world over. Regardless of whether or not that reporter is related to THE family his piece was a whole lot of nothing.

    Rosenstein is hiding the fact that he helped get the FISA warrants. Trump appointed Rosenstein yes, way to pay attention. Trump also fired Comey and who said Trump would be well within his right to to fire Comey ROD ROSENSTEIN and that's why Trump wasn't getting popped for firing Comey who is now shown to be completely and utterly biased and inept.
    If the Iran deal was a shitty deal made by weak leaders then XI (Chinese leader), Putin, Merkel, the British pm and French pm at the time must all be weak leaders who make shitty deals.

    How did Rosenstein redact or alter a report he had nothing to do with?

    What crimes has he committed?

    Other than some fucker on 4 chan what evidence is there to suggest there is more than one IG report?

    How are the Rothschilds responsible for all these wars?

    What FISA warrants plural? Rosenstein signed off on the applicatio for one FISA warrant to monitor somebody who had left the Trump campaign months previously. The warrant was renewed meaning that the authorities had uncovered evidence relating to criminal investigations -- no evidence produced, no renewal. So the original warrant application was entirely legitimate and the warrant produced new evidence for a criminal case. How does any of this make Rosenstein a bad guy? You're going to have to explain this, I'm fucked if I'm going to try and negotiate 4 chan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    I see no reason the market can’t continue like this for a number of years. Will a recession come sure it has to its the law. You can read plenty economist who say the end is near and just as many who present numbers saying it’s in the bottom of the ninth but we are going to have extra innings or continue this way. We are in correction territory but we do have several sectors doing well with a lot of investments in business not just buy backs as u claim. Reinvest will outpace buy backs. I think that is your issue, you look at only one source or point of view and take it as fact. There are plenty of ecomics u can grab that are fishy but that is how countries work these days. Obama increased the debt by over 9 trillion dollars. I don’t think the debt even matters anymore. A number will be picked that is acceptable and the cost of the country will just include that. 20 trillion ain’t gonna be paid back and it will grow I’d like to point out all the other shit u are wrong with but I don’t have time


    The Obama administration actually expanded the system of detaining families – typically mothers and their minor children – after a huge surge of Central Americans along the U.S.-Mexican border in 2014. The policy resulted in many minors being detained in various locations, in much-criticized conditions, either with their families or by themselves, if they had crossed the border alone.

    Videos and photos at the time showed children in tears, many of them still wearing dirty clothes, in detention facilities where they were kept with their families. The conditions -- which ranged from six adults and children sleeping crammed on two mattresses laid out on concrete floors, to sick minors not receiving medical care -- were documented in many news accounts and reports by human rights groups.

    At the time, Obama administration officials argued they had no choice but to implement policies intended to deter families from entering the U.S. illegally. Trump administration officials have made similar arguments.

    The stock market is not the economy. The economy may well keep on ticking for a few more years. It may not. Right now, the last quaret anyway, business investment is entirely flat. Meanwhile stock buybacks are breaking all records, almost 90% of the corporate tax cuts are being funneled into buying back stock which makes shareholders happy as their stock goes up in value and enriches executives as they get massive bonuses for the stock going up in value. I'm not looking at one number or one anything, I read economic data from the major economies seven hours a day five days a week and I read five times faster than you do. That's like you reading for 175 hours a week and 24 x 7 is 168.

    You can point out the other stuff I'm wrong about anytime. If you can make some kind of coherent statement about debt instead of whatever the hell that is then I'll reply to it.

    And yes Obama did boot a lot of immigrants out. He kicked people out of the country at a much higher rate than Trump has. But he didn't separate families while doing so. That's the thing that is causing problems for Trump and that's why he's now desperately trying to find a way out of the situation he's put himself in without having looked like he backed down.
    Your numbers are wrong on buybacks sir
    No.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    There's far less chance of any kind of regime change in Iran after Trump has reimposed sanctions and ripped up the nuclear deal. Politicians and pundits on the Iranian version of Fox News are now saying see, we were right, there's no way to deal with the Americans. The regime now has something to blame for the economy not improving, any politician advocating neing more pro-western has a much tougher job making that argument with the Iranian people. And of course this Iran thing is part of the Q Anon nonsense, isn't it? Liberal westerners and the Iranian regime are working together to do something or other, right? Maybe John McCain will speak out in favour of Iranian reformers and that will spark a revolution over there. That is if he's allowed to under the terms of his deal with prosecutors. He's wearing an ankle monitor so they can keep an eye on him without locking him up, isn't that right? Even though he's been found guilty of whatever it is. And Huma too! And Chelsea! All wearing ankle monitors and somehow not locked up yet. And look at this fucknut. He wants to see the "real" IG report too. The one that Trump already has that will blow the lid off this whole conspiracy but so far he hasn't mad eit public yet. https://edition.cnn.com/2018/06/15/u...dam/index.html You said that the mainstream media would start covering qanon, well there's some coverage. And I know why you didn't want to read an article written by somebody called Rothschild. Because the Rothschild banking family are a huge part of this conspiracy. I should have known. And obviously anybody with the surname Rothschild is related to them. What do you think Strozk is going to say when he testifies? And what is Rosenstein hiding exactly? You know he's a Trump appointee, right? Trump appointed him deputy AG? And what are these "next matters" Lyle?
    Well if YOU say Iran's regime will stay then I mean OBVIOUSLY it'll stay and for exactly the reasons you said...because you are never wrong. I mean what I see is women standing up to being forced to wear the hijab and I see a lot of support around those women, the PEOPLE of Iran are pissed off, they actually like the West and they are really missing the Shah right now...#Pahlavi on twitter see for yourself

    The Iran Deal was a shitty deal made by weak leaders.

    I guess we'll just wait and see what happens to McCain and Huma...not sure Chelsea has been discussed at all.

    President Trump has the:
    1. Original IG unredacted report
    2. Modified IG unredacted report [RR version]
    3. Modified IG redacted report [RR version]
    4. IG summary notes re: obstruction(s) to obtain select info (classified)

    #3 was the IG report that was released 6/14/2018...we've already had doubts cast over how good that report is and slowly but surely we'll be seeing the other reports which will indeed uncover wrongdoing by Rod Rosenstein because Rod Rosenstein was involved in criminal activities and then he tried to cover that up....not going to be good for him going forward.

    Sealed indictments...sealed, unreleased, criminals in the crosshairs aren't arrested yet got it?

    H.R. McMaster was also a Trump appointee but he was a part of the swamp, again you're looking at this through the lens of "Republican = Good for Trump and Democrat = Bad for Trump" that's not necessarily the case here. Bad actors are bad actors Republican, Democrat, whatever.

    The Rothschilds certainly are a big part of the "conspiracy", you can pretty much tie them to every single modern day war the world over. Regardless of whether or not that reporter is related to THE family his piece was a whole lot of nothing.

    Rosenstein is hiding the fact that he helped get the FISA warrants. Trump appointed Rosenstein yes, way to pay attention. Trump also fired Comey and who said Trump would be well within his right to to fire Comey ROD ROSENSTEIN and that's why Trump wasn't getting popped for firing Comey who is now shown to be completely and utterly biased and inept.
    And the Iranian people are missing the Shah in the same way the Iraqi people are missing Saddam. A bunch of Iranian exiles living in LA posting on twitter is not representative of Iran. You realise the Shah killed or tortured basically one member of every Iranian family over his reign, right? That America propped him up the whole time and put him in power in the first place?

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