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    Default Re: Canelo now a 'Franchise Champion'

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Denilson-The-Comeback View Post
    So the WBC contacted team Canelo and said "Hey, Charlo has been the mandatory for quite some time. Any chance Canelo faces Charlo soon?"

    Team Canelo "Nope, no chance, we're going in another direction"

    WBC says "Damn, last time we tried to enforce a mandatory on Canelo that he didn't want to face, he threw a hissy fit, gave us back our belt and wouldn’t even entertain fighting for our piñata belt that we created for his fight with Chavez Jr. We don't really want to lose out on those pay days. Let's give him this pretend forever title just to keep him happy, award our mandatory challenger the actual title and everyone will be happy."

    The end.

    At this point, you need a flow chart to distinguish which belt ranks higher than the others out of World, Silver, Silver Interim, Pearl, Diamond, Franchise, and Emeritus. If this nonsense was to be investigated by congress it'll be a total shitstorm. Sulaiman is once again performing a public sloppy blowjob on Canelo and nobody does anything about it.

    The WBC is supposed to be the most prestigious title? Well this is proof that that is a complete lie.

    Although it will never happen someone should seize this opportunity to invest heavily in the WBSS. Make it as lucrative as possible for the top boxers to get involved and have a Muhammed Ali trophy for each weight class. This would guarantee consistent best vs best tournaments, say every two years, and promote the s**t out of the trophy to the point where everyone, including the casuals, see it as the one major title in the division.

    Alphabet title holders can take care of business between tournaments, and the natural evolution would see the alphabets becoming nothing more than a gateway or qualifier for the WBSS, with those not having a belt entering the tournament on merit from what they achieve in the "off season".

    The format is there already, someone with the funds and the balls should run with it, and give the alphabets a big f**k you on the way past.

    As I say it wont happen though.

    Have to hand it to the IBF.

    One champion per division. No interim titles. Well done.

    With the WBO creating a Global title, the WBA creating a Gold Champion, and now the WBC creating this, the IBF do it right.


    F*cking A!! Especially on the bolded part. (Except maybe I shouldn't say F*cking A, because that designation is already taken under my belt recommendations to the alphabet orgs).

    Seriously though, pump all the importance into the WBSS....... drain all the importance away from all these B.S. titles....... and take boxing back from the sleazy promoters and alphabet org heads and hand it back to the fans.

    Then and only then, boxing might improve..... and me and Ron can agree on one more thing.
    It would be the easiest way to get a real champion. The winner of the tournament becomes champion and you go from there. You don’t even need a belt. You are just considered the champion and the man at the weight class. When someone beats you, that person takes over. And then as denlison said, you make it semi frequently so that the champion can’t just hide out.

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    Default Re: Canelo now a 'Franchise Champion'

    Quote Originally Posted by powerpuncher View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Denilson-The-Comeback View Post
    So the WBC contacted team Canelo and said "Hey, Charlo has been the mandatory for quite some time. Any chance Canelo faces Charlo soon?"

    Team Canelo "Nope, no chance, we're going in another direction"

    WBC says "Damn, last time we tried to enforce a mandatory on Canelo that he didn't want to face, he threw a hissy fit, gave us back our belt and wouldn’t even entertain fighting for our piñata belt that we created for his fight with Chavez Jr. We don't really want to lose out on those pay days. Let's give him this pretend forever title just to keep him happy, award our mandatory challenger the actual title and everyone will be happy."

    The end.

    At this point, you need a flow chart to distinguish which belt ranks higher than the others out of World, Silver, Silver Interim, Pearl, Diamond, Franchise, and Emeritus. If this nonsense was to be investigated by congress it'll be a total shitstorm. Sulaiman is once again performing a public sloppy blowjob on Canelo and nobody does anything about it.

    The WBC is supposed to be the most prestigious title? Well this is proof that that is a complete lie.

    Although it will never happen someone should seize this opportunity to invest heavily in the WBSS. Make it as lucrative as possible for the top boxers to get involved and have a Muhammed Ali trophy for each weight class. This would guarantee consistent best vs best tournaments, say every two years, and promote the s**t out of the trophy to the point where everyone, including the casuals, see it as the one major title in the division.

    Alphabet title holders can take care of business between tournaments, and the natural evolution would see the alphabets becoming nothing more than a gateway or qualifier for the WBSS, with those not having a belt entering the tournament on merit from what they achieve in the "off season".

    The format is there already, someone with the funds and the balls should run with it, and give the alphabets a big f**k you on the way past.

    As I say it wont happen though.

    Have to hand it to the IBF.

    One champion per division. No interim titles. Well done.

    With the WBO creating a Global title, the WBA creating a Gold Champion, and now the WBC creating this, the IBF do it right.


    F*cking A!! Especially on the bolded part. (Except maybe I shouldn't say F*cking A, because that designation is already taken under my belt recommendations to the alphabet orgs).

    Seriously though, pump all the importance into the WBSS....... drain all the importance away from all these B.S. titles....... and take boxing back from the sleazy promoters and alphabet org heads and hand it back to the fans.

    Then and only then, boxing might improve..... and me and Ron can agree on one more thing.
    It would be the easiest way to get a real champion. The winner of the tournament becomes champion and you go from there. You don’t even need a belt. You are just considered the champion and the man at the weight class. When someone beats you, that person takes over. And then as denlison said, you make it semi frequently so that the champion can’t just hide out.

    Exactly. It's like having only one grocery store in the neighborhood, and they give you shitty service, high prices, and lousy food. Put another one next to it with great service, low prices, and good food...... and the stampede might cause some structural damage and leave the old grocery store with tumbleweeds and chirping crickets.

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    Default Re: Canelo now a 'Franchise Champion'

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    This is just getting beyond silly now . So basically take his -regular- strap, hand it off to Charlo and the two are not ordered to fight. The gist of it reads as follows, not really sure about the wbc having sole approval over every single fight..basically after retirement he remains champion forever . Sulaimán's does love him some sanctioning fees.

    1. The Franchise Champion will be designated as WBC Emeritus Champion once he retires from boxing.

    2. The Franchise Champion will proudly represent the WBC in every single fight as a reigning WBC champion, regardless of any specific conditions or titles being associated with all future fights. WBC rules and regulations will govern under the traditional conditions of boxing in the Franchise champion fights. WBC will approve through the franchise champion promoter every opponent scheduled to fight.

    3. Franchise Champion agrees to participate in a minimum of two social responsibility events every year, organized and in conjunction with the WBC.

    4. The WBC may recognize a WBC champion in the division or divisions where the Franchise champion currently competes.

    5. The WBC may award a Diamond Championship belt in those fights in which the Franchise Champion engages. If the Franchise Champion loses, the winner will receive the Diamond belt and may be considered as mandatory contender of the division.
    lol.... these sanctioning orgs are shameful. I thought the WBA was bad enough with the Regular v Super Champ,now this!
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    Default Re: Canelo now a 'Franchise Champion'

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by powerpuncher View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Denilson-The-Comeback View Post
    So the WBC contacted team Canelo and said "Hey, Charlo has been the mandatory for quite some time. Any chance Canelo faces Charlo soon?"

    Team Canelo "Nope, no chance, we're going in another direction"

    WBC says "Damn, last time we tried to enforce a mandatory on Canelo that he didn't want to face, he threw a hissy fit, gave us back our belt and wouldn’t even entertain fighting for our piñata belt that we created for his fight with Chavez Jr. We don't really want to lose out on those pay days. Let's give him this pretend forever title just to keep him happy, award our mandatory challenger the actual title and everyone will be happy."

    The end.

    At this point, you need a flow chart to distinguish which belt ranks higher than the others out of World, Silver, Silver Interim, Pearl, Diamond, Franchise, and Emeritus. If this nonsense was to be investigated by congress it'll be a total shitstorm. Sulaiman is once again performing a public sloppy blowjob on Canelo and nobody does anything about it.

    The WBC is supposed to be the most prestigious title? Well this is proof that that is a complete lie.

    Although it will never happen someone should seize this opportunity to invest heavily in the WBSS. Make it as lucrative as possible for the top boxers to get involved and have a Muhammed Ali trophy for each weight class. This would guarantee consistent best vs best tournaments, say every two years, and promote the s**t out of the trophy to the point where everyone, including the casuals, see it as the one major title in the division.

    Alphabet title holders can take care of business between tournaments, and the natural evolution would see the alphabets becoming nothing more than a gateway or qualifier for the WBSS, with those not having a belt entering the tournament on merit from what they achieve in the "off season".

    The format is there already, someone with the funds and the balls should run with it, and give the alphabets a big f**k you on the way past.

    As I say it wont happen though.

    Have to hand it to the IBF.

    One champion per division. No interim titles. Well done.

    With the WBO creating a Global title, the WBA creating a Gold Champion, and now the WBC creating this, the IBF do it right.


    F*cking A!! Especially on the bolded part. (Except maybe I shouldn't say F*cking A, because that designation is already taken under my belt recommendations to the alphabet orgs).

    Seriously though, pump all the importance into the WBSS....... drain all the importance away from all these B.S. titles....... and take boxing back from the sleazy promoters and alphabet org heads and hand it back to the fans.

    Then and only then, boxing might improve..... and me and Ron can agree on one more thing.
    It would be the easiest way to get a real champion. The winner of the tournament becomes champion and you go from there. You don’t even need a belt. You are just considered the champion and the man at the weight class. When someone beats you, that person takes over. And then as denlison said, you make it semi frequently so that the champion can’t just hide out.

    Exactly. It's like having only one grocery store in the neighborhood, and they give you shitty service, high prices, and lousy food. Put another one next to it with great service, low prices, and good food...... and the stampede might cause some structural damage and leave the old grocery store with tumbleweeds and chirping crickets.
    The wbc diamond shiny door-stop has already attached itself like a malignant mole to many of the wbss top fighters and guys being called some of the best in the world will always associate the belts. Schafer did well jumping off the Gbp and Oscar ship but with money problems already coming close to derailing some key wbss matches the temptation and sanctioning factor may be harder to resist.

    It's weird, I remember that brief period when we basically managed to backseat the crooked sanctioning bodies for the most part with the coming of 'The Ring' title belt. It was THE belt. Guys on Hbo and Espn were openly railing and dismissing the alphabet belts routinely to the point of not even recognizing and naming them on ring introductions. Short lived and very much missed.

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    Default Re: Canelo now a 'Franchise Champion'

    When I think of franchise I think of McDonalds or fake football teams who locate in areas where they can get the most money. To think that the WBC will bend over for Canelo is sickening.

    I do not remember them doing that for any other champion before to this extent that they make up a title so that he can defend it against anyone he wants and the WBC get their sanctioning fees.
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    Default Re: Canelo now a 'Franchise Champion'

    Sanctions have faded the value of the championship. If you want to maintain relevance, you need to review the entire sport. Forget the belt, just do a good fight

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