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    Default Re: Should Boris Resign?

    Here on the UK Four nurses and an ambulance man have died in the last hour ffs.

    And also this:
    Copied from a friend

    UK people ....Please don't blame each other for the number of people affected by Covid 19 and the numbers who will die.........

    I know we are all moaning about crowded open areas but we have all been told we are allowed to go and exercise once a day. The park by me is busy all day long but when you have the whole population off work then that is a lot of people out at one time.

    As this crisis deepens and the death toll mounts, a narrative is going to emerge that will be very seductive to many of us. It will all be the fault of “the people.”

    The people who failed to practice social distancing.
    The people who hoarded.
    The people who didn’t listen to the government.
    The people who didn’t listen to the science.
    The people. Those selfish people. Look at them in their parks.

    The government will start trotting this out. Right wing media will push it hard. Police forces have already begun assigning blame to “the people”.

    Many of us will feel the tug of this seductive reasoning. Our brains will be tempted to lash out at “the people.” When we do, we must remember some things:

    - The government had 3 months to prepare. This was a train coming down the tracks.
    - At first we were told the plan was herd immunity. Then it wasn’t.
    - As the first few people started to die, Boris Johnson boasting of shaking the hands of hospitalised coronavirus patients. This was a week before the lockdown.
    - Why weren’t we in lockdown like other European countries, some asked. Trust us, they said.
    - Then we got the lockdown order. What did they say? The initial government advice was only “essential workers could travel to work”. A day later this was changed to “essential travel for work.” See the difference? There are screenshots of this.

    They cut the number of tubes and trains to work so people had to crowd together. They allowed some greedy businesses to insist workers came in to work or loose their jobs. There should have been a blanket clear rule about essential workers. Clear messages. Strict rules would have helped.

    - They told us to practice social distancing as MPs crowded around each other in the House of Commons.
    - They said only the old and immuno-comprised were at risk. Then healthy twenty-somethings started dying.
    - They said the NHS could cope, then they started building field hospitals in stadiums.
    - They said the NHS had the protective equipment it needed, then we logged on to social media.
    - They said we were in it together, then they got tested before the frontline workers.
    - They said there was no such thing as society and it was survival of the fittest, then said we needed to show solidarity.
    - They clapped when they voted against a pay-rise for NHS nurses in 2017, then they clapped for the NHS.

    Why aren't they giving protective gear to nurses and doctors now?

    - They spent a decade telling us cuts were needed to save the economy, then they said the only way to save the economy was to spend trillions.

    - They got us to vote for Brexit by rubbishing “experts,” then told us to trust experts.
    - They told us retail workers were low skilled, then said they were key workers.
    - They said homelessness was sad but inevitable, then they order it ended overnight.

    So yes, “the people” ended up a little fucking confused.

    Because our so-called leaders have utterly failed to lead.

    They don't know what they stand for; they couldn’t believe the world could change so quickly; they resisted “alarmism” when the only proper response was to be alarmed; they had no idea how to use the power of the state, having spent a decade dismantling it; they were arrogant and complacent, wallowing in privilege. The fundamental duty of government is to keep us safe. That’s what we pay them to do. They have failed.

    As the death toll mounts, remember that our leaders are to blame, not “the people,” and we must resist the temptation to blame each other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    Here on the UK Four nurses and an ambulance man have died in the last hour ffs.

    And also this:
    Copied from a friend

    UK people ....Please don't blame each other for the number of people affected by Covid 19 and the numbers who will die.........

    I know we are all moaning about crowded open areas but we have all been told we are allowed to go and exercise once a day. The park by me is busy all day long but when you have the whole population off work then that is a lot of people out at one time.

    As this crisis deepens and the death toll mounts, a narrative is going to emerge that will be very seductive to many of us. It will all be the fault of “the people.”

    The people who failed to practice social distancing.
    The people who hoarded.
    The people who didn’t listen to the government.
    The people who didn’t listen to the science.
    The people. Those selfish people. Look at them in their parks.

    The government will start trotting this out. Right wing media will push it hard. Police forces have already begun assigning blame to “the people”.

    Many of us will feel the tug of this seductive reasoning. Our brains will be tempted to lash out at “the people.” When we do, we must remember some things:

    - The government had 3 months to prepare. This was a train coming down the tracks.
    - At first we were told the plan was herd immunity. Then it wasn’t.
    - As the first few people started to die, Boris Johnson boasting of shaking the hands of hospitalised coronavirus patients. This was a week before the lockdown.
    - Why weren’t we in lockdown like other European countries, some asked. Trust us, they said.
    - Then we got the lockdown order. What did they say? The initial government advice was only “essential workers could travel to work”. A day later this was changed to “essential travel for work.” See the difference? There are screenshots of this.

    They cut the number of tubes and trains to work so people had to crowd together. They allowed some greedy businesses to insist workers came in to work or loose their jobs. There should have been a blanket clear rule about essential workers. Clear messages. Strict rules would have helped.

    - They told us to practice social distancing as MPs crowded around each other in the House of Commons.
    - They said only the old and immuno-comprised were at risk. Then healthy twenty-somethings started dying.
    - They said the NHS could cope, then they started building field hospitals in stadiums.
    - They said the NHS had the protective equipment it needed, then we logged on to social media.
    - They said we were in it together, then they got tested before the frontline workers.
    - They said there was no such thing as society and it was survival of the fittest, then said we needed to show solidarity.
    - They clapped when they voted against a pay-rise for NHS nurses in 2017, then they clapped for the NHS.

    Why aren't they giving protective gear to nurses and doctors now?

    - They spent a decade telling us cuts were needed to save the economy, then they said the only way to save the economy was to spend trillions.

    - They got us to vote for Brexit by rubbishing “experts,” then told us to trust experts.
    - They told us retail workers were low skilled, then said they were key workers.
    - They said homelessness was sad but inevitable, then they order it ended overnight.

    So yes, “the people” ended up a little fucking confused.

    Because our so-called leaders have utterly failed to lead.

    They don't know what they stand for; they couldn’t believe the world could change so quickly; they resisted “alarmism” when the only proper response was to be alarmed; they had no idea how to use the power of the state, having spent a decade dismantling it; they were arrogant and complacent, wallowing in privilege. The fundamental duty of government is to keep us safe. That’s what we pay them to do. They have failed.

    As the death toll mounts, remember that our leaders are to blame, not “the people,” and we must resist the temptation to blame each other.
    I agree Beanz the economy means more than peoples lives it seems the government were slow in lockdown my wife and daughter only had PPE last week in the hospital.
    The people in care homes are sacrifices it seems workers no PPE and the residents a terrible state of affairs.

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    Default Re: Should Boris Resign?

    Just when you think it could not get any worse Priti Patel the fucking empathy vacuum who is about as thick as a submarine door instead of apologising for the lack of PPE provision says

    "I'm sorry if people feel like there have been failings"

    You what?

    Basically she is saying. "No i will not apologise and you have got it wrong to think we need to apologise"


    They the Government are elected to do things like acquire sufficient tests, ventilators and PPE kitsand yet they do not give a shit about failing to do so.
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    Default Re: Should Boris Resign?

    This is an example of how much the government is lying to you. They don't care about saving lives and they sure as hell don't give a shit about supporting British business unless you are a Tory party lapdog. Thread here -

    https://twitter.com/Flakmagnet1/stat...51482968219649
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    Ah let's take a gander at this "FlakMagnet #FBPE #Rejoin & Remain Indoors"....hmmm says in his bio "British European". Looks like an interesting fellow
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Ah let's take a gander at this "FlakMagnet #FBPE #Rejoin & Remain Indoors"....hmmm says in his bio "British European". Looks like an interesting fellow

    Well he is sure as hell not a fucking insurance telesales trustafarian in America, that much is clear. Nothing happening on the Trump front, or have you not finished licking his boots today?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Ah let's take a gander at this "FlakMagnet #FBPE #Rejoin & Remain Indoors"....hmmm says in his bio "British European". Looks like an interesting fellow
    Well he is sure as hell not a fucking insurance telesales trustafarian in America, that much is clear. Nothing happening on the Trump front, or have you not finished licking his boots today?
    Trump is doing fine, he roasted the media with their own words the other day.


    You think I do "telesales" HA! Yes the trustafarian who does telesales because obviously those go together .


    Trump is going to win in a landslide. Joe Biden is a nobody, even worse he's a nobody with dementia and Trump is going to drag him come November, but that is IF Biden remains the candidate....big IF.
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Ah let's take a gander at this "FlakMagnet #FBPE #Rejoin & Remain Indoors"....hmmm says in his bio "British European". Looks like an interesting fellow
    Well he is sure as hell not a fucking insurance telesales trustafarian in America, that much is clear. Nothing happening on the Trump front, or have you not finished licking his boots today?
    Trump is doing fine, he roasted the media with their own words the other day.


    You think I do "telesales" HA! Yes the trustafarian who does telesales because obviously those go together .


    Trump is going to win in a landslide. Joe Biden is a nobody, even worse he's a nobody with dementia and Trump is going to drag him come November, but that is IF Biden remains the candidate....big IF.

    You said you sell insurance. Do you? I can imagine anything more than telesales being a bit of a struggle for you to be honest.


    So how on earth is that a key job? and why do you have to travel in 2020 to an office to do it?


    Go and post in the Trump thread with all your delusional nonsense if you have the bottle. There is plenty to talk about where he is concerned and yet as usual you hide when he is being exposed as nothing more than a realty TV star and a compulsive liar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    You said you sell insurance. Do you? I can imagine anything more than telesales being a bit of a struggle for you to be honest.


    So how on earth is that a key job? and why do you have to travel in 2020 to an office to do it?


    Go and post in the Trump thread with all your delusional nonsense if you have the bottle. There is plenty to talk about where he is concerned and yet as usual you hide when he is being exposed as nothing more than a realty TV star and a compulsive liar.
    That's what I do. Well I guess you'll have to work on your imagination because you're off by more than a bit.

    Hey man the government said it's "essential" argue with them.

    OK so you ask me to post about him and then respond with "Not here!!!!" OK....I mean I think he's doing fine, he's doing daily pressers, the media is flummoxed as to how to deal with him because his pressers are bringing in big time views and if the media aren't playing middle man and spinning the stories then they don't control the narrative, HE does and again he's doing rather well. I'll go in the Trump thread and have a look see....(where I'm sure to not be attacked for "OMG you post all the time!" )
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    You said you sell insurance. Do you? I can imagine anything more than telesales being a bit of a struggle for you to be honest.


    So how on earth is that a key job? and why do you have to travel in 2020 to an office to do it?


    Go and post in the Trump thread with all your delusional nonsense if you have the bottle. There is plenty to talk about where he is concerned and yet as usual you hide when he is being exposed as nothing more than a realty TV star and a compulsive liar.
    That's what I do. Well I guess you'll have to work on your imagination because you're off by more than a bit.

    Hey man the government said it's "essential" argue with them.

    OK so you ask me to post about him and then respond with "Not here!!!!" OK....I mean I think he's doing fine, he's doing daily pressers, the media is flummoxed as to how to deal with him because his pressers are bringing in big time views and if the media aren't playing middle man and spinning the stories then they don't control the narrative, HE does and again he's doing rather well. I'll go in the Trump thread and have a look see....(where I'm sure to not be attacked for "OMG you post all the time!" )

    You are the one telling us you sold insurance. Nobody forced you to tell us a lie if that is what it is.

    You seem to want to know every single detail of my life and yet you can't even tell us what you job is?

    Nobody else here as a problem telling us how they earn a living. Why the big secret?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    You are the one telling us you sold insurance. Nobody forced you to tell us a lie if that is what it is.

    You seem to want to know every single detail of my life and yet you can't even tell us what you job is?

    Nobody else here as a problem telling us how they earn a living. Why the big secret?
    Question: You said you sell insurance. Do you?

    Answer: That's what I do.

    Now when you get into saying I'm in "telesales" is where you're wrong. Do I call people? Sometimes, but not as much as they call me. Do I work at some sort of phonebank/cubicle farm office? HELL NO.


    Anything else?
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    You are the one telling us you sold insurance. Nobody forced you to tell us a lie if that is what it is.

    You seem to want to know every single detail of my life and yet you can't even tell us what you job is?

    Nobody else here as a problem telling us how they earn a living. Why the big secret?
    Question: You said you sell insurance. Do you?

    Answer: That's what I do.

    Now when you get into saying I'm in "telesales" is where you're wrong. Do I call people? Sometimes, but not as much as they call me. Do I work at some sort of phonebank/cubicle farm office? HELL NO.


    Anything else?
    So you sell Health Insurance. No biggie. Thought you could have done that from home.



    Explains why you hate the NHS so much though
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    Fucking hell, before this current situation, I didn’t know much about newsreaders and reporters, but these daily bulletins are making me realise just how many wankers there are in the media.
    The award for Prize prick of the century goes to this cunt Robert Peston. What a fucking wanker he is.
    Every time it’s his turn to ask a question , he tries to grill the government like he’s some sort of superstar.
    He’s an arrogant cunt and pretty much a stranger to the truth.
    He’s grilling the health secretary about when the lockdown will end , talking to him like he’s a 5 year old.
    He says we’re past our peak , when the facts show we’re not and he says that other countries are looking at ending the lockdown, which is also a lie.
    In recent days France and Italy have extended the lockdown , and they are further into this shit than we are.
    If you look at the graphs , the UK is mirroring Italy when it comes to new cases and death rates and 10 to 14 days behind. Yet they’ve extended lockdown till May 3rd. And trust me, their lockdown is far far stricter than what we have here.
    That should be enough to stop pricks like Peston asking meaningless vacuous questions, let alone the fact that over 3,500 people have been fined for breaching lockdown rules.
    Basically he should look at the info in front of him and stop stirring the shit up for the sake of it!
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    Default Re: Should Boris Resign?

    Death and taxes are starting to wonder what they have to do around here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    So you sell Health Insurance. No biggie. Thought you could have done that from home.



    Explains why you hate the NHS so much though
    Who said anything about health insurance?
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