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    Labour will pledge to abolish private schools if it wins the next election, after the party’s annual conference voted for a proposal to “integrate” them into the state sector.

    In a major policy shift, a motion approved by delegates at the gathering in Brighton said a government led by Jeremy Corbyn would “challenge the elite privilege of private schools” and claimed that “the ongoing existence of private schools is incompatible with Labour’s pledge to promote social justice”.

    It said the party would include in its next manifesto “a commitment to integrate all private schools into the state sector”.

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    It is a good idea in theory and aiming for an egalitarian society but it will not happen. Labour say they will do it but never get round to it if they get into government.
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    It would be an excellent thing but yes definitely unlikely to happen.

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    I disagree. If the parent has the means of improving their child then they have the right to do so. It is a different thing but out here there are many private academies and the difference between those who go to them and do not is often considerable. In a public school you have classes of 30, but in a private school between 6 and 12. This means a lot more ability to directly influence the class and make genuine observable improvements. The private school teachers, at least in my experience are often better and more efficient. If you can afford it or are willing to just spend less on other things then why should that opportunity be taken away?

    I think there is a place for private education and it is up to parents if they are willing to work hard and pay for it. It isn't the preserve of the super elite and if parents are heavily invested then school, parents and child alike are pushed to achieve.

    An average non boarder is 14,000 pounds a year in the UK. If you have 2 working parents with a reasonable level of work it isn't that out of range. Then even if you don't want the private school route you can always hire a private tutor on an hourly rate to catch up and get ahead.

    I think it is about choice more than anything. It isn't for the government to decide everything in one's life. It is up to the parents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    I disagree. If the parent has the means of improving their child then they have the right to do so. It is a different thing but out here there are many private academies and the difference between those who go to them and do not is often considerable. In a public school you have classes of 30, but in a private school between 6 and 12. This means a lot more ability to directly influence the class and make genuine observable improvements. The private school teachers, at least in my experience are often better and more efficient. If you can afford it or are willing to just spend less on other things then why should that opportunity be taken away?

    I think there is a place for private education and it is up to parents if they are willing to work hard and pay for it. It isn't the preserve of the super elite and if parents are heavily invested then school, parents and child alike are pushed to achieve.

    An average non boarder is 14,000 pounds a year in the UK. If you have 2 working parents with a reasonable level of work it isn't that out of range. Then even if you don't want the private school route you can always hire a private tutor on an hourly rate to catch up and get ahead.

    I think it is about choice more than anything. It isn't for the government to decide everything in one's life. It is up to the parents.
    If a parent wants to keep their children away from the bullshit public school system and they have the means why not. Or is this about making everyone equal. As teaching in public school becomes indoctrination no matter it is such a concern

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    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    I disagree. If the parent has the means of improving their child then they have the right to do so. It is a different thing but out here there are many private academies and the difference between those who go to them and do not is often considerable. In a public school you have classes of 30, but in a private school between 6 and 12. This means a lot more ability to directly influence the class and make genuine observable improvements. The private school teachers, at least in my experience are often better and more efficient. If you can afford it or are willing to just spend less on other things then why should that opportunity be taken away?

    I think there is a place for private education and it is up to parents if they are willing to work hard and pay for it. It isn't the preserve of the super elite and if parents are heavily invested then school, parents and child alike are pushed to achieve.

    An average non boarder is 14,000 pounds a year in the UK. If you have 2 working parents with a reasonable level of work it isn't that out of range. Then even if you don't want the private school route you can always hire a private tutor on an hourly rate to catch up and get ahead.

    I think it is about choice more than anything. It isn't for the government to decide everything in one's life. It is up to the parents.
    If a parent wants to keep their children away from the bullshit public school system and they have the means why not. Or is this about making everyone equal. As teaching in public school becomes indoctrination no matter it is such a concern
    I think what they are discovering is that children who have been to public school have been better taught and are thus generally at an advantage compared with the average state student. They have smaller class sizes, teachers who are less over burdened, and because of the investment the parents really care about the outcome. I have an old friend who teaches at a private school back home and he loves it there. The classes are small, he is relatively autonomous, and gets to do his thing in relative peace.

    In public schools the teacher drop out rate is tremendous. Rather than banning private schools where students and teachers are often quite comfortable, they should probably do something about public schools. Maybe Greta has a solution.Oh, she dropped out to save the world. Maybe someone else.
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