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View Poll Results: Who wins? Deontay Wilder vs Tyson Fury II 2020年2月22日

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    Default Re: Who wins? Deontay Wilder vs Tyson Fury II 2020年2月22日

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    A few have questioned my stance and that is fine. But they are human beings and know how to interact with people. You do not thus no conflict with anyone else.

    You moan that I do not post about boxing and then when I do I still come under attack. Should I go back to other topics to satisfy you?

    Nobody is stopping you doing anything, much less attacking you. Calling your comments beyond stupid is not an example of someone not being able to interact with people, it is simply an example of someone disagreeing with you and your opinion. You are a bunch of bullying kids. You sound like Wilder with your daft excuses.
    What is stupid about thinking Fury won the fight convincingly, that the fight was somewhat similar in tone to the first for the first two rounds, and that Wilder experienced discombobulation thus meaning he couldn't fight the same way after that point? Those are not extreme or stupid positions. I am in a minority in wanting to see Wilder exercise his rematch clause, but that is his legal right.

    You started by being far more aggressive than just saying it was stupid.

    And why do the grouping thing again? Ask Tito why he wants to see your Asp meds increased, he will likely tell you himself. As for me saying you drool on the keyboard and are a wannabe Hugh Grant. Well, it is a laugh. Now your rep comment wasn't such a laugh was it? How many typo's, negative adjectives and expletives were in that?
    "I have no words for such shitwittery" is not aggressive it is an expression of hands in the air frustration and yet here you are again trying to censor any use of the English language which does not stroke your incredibly volatile and fragile ego.

    So far you have told us all

    "I suspect Wilder was crocked there"

    "
    I suspect this wouldn't be the same next time"

    "Wilder only outclassed following the KD. Even Ortiz had a better opening several minutes. I really think the dodgy back of the head ear bleeder made the fight play out as it did. "

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    I thought Fury landed an illegal shot and it changed the entire fight. Wilder was fine for nearly rounds and only then did it change. He was brave for continuing when he knew he was messed up.
    "I think Fury just took advantage of the situation and thus looked good. Do it again minus the rabbit punch and see how it goes. Fury still couldn't stop an obviously lucid Wilder who to be fair should be saved for another day as he is better than that."

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    I don't think anyone can deny the awkward posture of Wilder there. I thought a weird punch did it during the KD but seemingly there from the start. I noticed Wilder's ankle was wrong getting up from the KD too, kind of twisted, and again he crumbled very easily quickly after. Seemed weird to me."

    and that is just in this thread

    "Beyond stupid" was pretty restrained
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    Default Re: Who wins? Deontay Wilder vs Tyson Fury II 2020年2月22日

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    A few have questioned my stance and that is fine. But they are human beings and know how to interact with people. You do not thus no conflict with anyone else.

    You moan that I do not post about boxing and then when I do I still come under attack. Should I go back to other topics to satisfy you?

    Nobody is stopping you doing anything, much less attacking you. Calling your comments beyond stupid is not an example of someone not being able to interact with people, it is simply an example of someone disagreeing with you and your opinion. You are a bunch of bullying kids. You sound like Wilder with your daft excuses.
    What is stupid about thinking Fury won the fight convincingly, that the fight was somewhat similar in tone to the first for the first two rounds, and that Wilder experienced discombobulation thus meaning he couldn't fight the same way after that point? Those are not extreme or stupid positions. I am in a minority in wanting to see Wilder exercise his rematch clause, but that is his legal right.

    You started by being far more aggressive than just saying it was stupid.

    And why do the grouping thing again? Ask Tito why he wants to see your Asp meds increased, he will likely tell you himself. As for me saying you drool on the keyboard and are a wannabe Hugh Grant. Well, it is a laugh. Now your rep comment wasn't such a laugh was it? How many typo's, negative adjectives and expletives were in that?
    "I have no words for such shitwittery" is not aggressive it is an expression of hands in the air frustration and yet here you are again trying to censor any use of the English language which does not stroke your incredibly volatile and fragile ego.

    So far you have told us all

    "I suspect Wilder was crocked there"

    "
    I suspect this wouldn't be the same next time"

    "Wilder only outclassed following the KD. Even Ortiz had a better opening several minutes. I really think the dodgy back of the head ear bleeder made the fight play out as it did. "

    "
    I thought Fury landed an illegal shot and it changed the entire fight. Wilder was fine for nearly rounds and only then did it change. He was brave for continuing when he knew he was messed up.
    "I think Fury just took advantage of the situation and thus looked good. Do it again minus the rabbit punch and see how it goes. Fury still couldn't stop an obviously lucid Wilder who to be fair should be saved for another day as he is better than that."

    "
    I don't think anyone can deny the awkward posture of Wilder there. I thought a weird punch did it during the KD but seemingly there from the start. I noticed Wilder's ankle was wrong getting up from the KD too, kind of twisted, and again he crumbled very easily quickly after. Seemed weird to me."

    and that is just in this thread

    "Beyond stupid" was pretty restrained
    Nah. Just you going all OCD with the compiling and unable to tolerate a different opinion to your own.

    My views watching live on a stream and today in HD are all there. Just a boxing fan trying to make sense of things.

    Anything some of us says will be called out by you. Par for the course.

    You disagree. You can just say 'Yo Gandalf. I don't agree'. But you can't show respect so none comes back your way. Probably why Tito thinks you need meds. Or Walrus thinks you are mad. How you treat people has them responding to you as they do. You do not see it and that is the sign of someone with little self awareness.

    Nobody but you has a problem with me. Batman and Mark have nicely spoken and so they do get respect. Disagreeing is fine.

    I made a quip back at you and you then launch a neg rep tirade too. So triggered and quite barmy.

    And yes, bring on the rematch. It will happen whether wise or foolish and that is the way it should be.
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    Default Re: Who wins? Deontay Wilder vs Tyson Fury II 2020年2月22日

    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    I am about to re-watch too and maybe change my mind, but might not. It all depends on what I see.

    As for Beanz. Well Spicoli, all I did was respond to his aggression with a reference to him being like Hugh Grant who went on to pull a very good looking Jewish woman in a film. I was mild.

    These ring intros are so camp. You would never see Prime Tyson doing any of this throne or Sauron business.

    Good for you setting the record straight, Miles. Gotta call a spade a spade, and that spade continues to reappear even after the deck of cards has been tossed in a drawer.

    As for Fury-Wilder, I will continue disagreeing with you and say that Wilder has nothing to bring to the table against Fury. Case closed.

    Although......... the thought of being on the same side of the argument with "whatshisface" is almost enough to make me reconsider.

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    Default Re: Who wins? Deontay Wilder vs Tyson Fury II 2020年2月22日

    Deontay Wilder sacks trainer who threw the towel in during Tyson Fury fight

    Deontay Wilder plans to sack his trainer Mark Breland after he threw the towel in during his heavyweight title defeat against Tyson Fury, claiming that if he wants to “talk about killing man” in the ring, he has to be willing to receive the same treatment.

    Breland was praised for saving Wilder from further punishment after a bloody contest ended at 1:39 minutes in the seventh round, with Fury well ahead on the three judges’ scorecards and having knocked the defending champion down twice.

    Wilder was visibly upset by the decision as referee Kenny Bayliss waved the fight off, and he bellowed “Why’d you do that?!” at his corner in the immediate seconds after Fury’s victory was confirmed, and questioned whether there was a conspiracy against him due to rumours that voices from outside of his corner had an influence in the decision.

    With Wilder announcing his intention to activate an immediate rematch clause, the American is set to fight Fury in a third contest before the end of July, but he is unlikely to have former Olympic champion Breland in his corner.

    "We had many discussions for years about this situation and for him to still do it after Jay (Deas, Wilder's main trainer) told him not to do it really hurt me,” Wilder told the Associated Press.



    “And then I heard he was influenced by another fighter in the audience and it makes a lot of conspiracy theories in your head why he did it. It didn't make sense."

    He added to Yahoo Sports: “I am upset with Mark for the simple fact that we’ve talked about this many times and it’s not emotional.

    “It is not an emotional thing, it’s a principal thing. We’ve talked about this situation many, many years before this even happened. I said as a warrior, as a champion, as a leader, as a ruler, I want to go out on my shield. If I’m talking about going in and killing a man, I respect the same way. I abide by the same principal of receiving.

    “So I told my team to never, ever, no matter what it may look like, to never throw the towel in with me because I’m a special kind. I still had five rounds left. No matter what it looked like, I was still in the fight.”

    “I understand he was looking out for me and trying to do what he felt was right, but this is my life and my career and he has to accept my wishes.”

    Under the terms of their pre-fight contract, Wilder has 30 days to activate his rematch clause from the night of the bout, and a third fight between the pair must be organised before the end of July, ensuring they will collide three times in the space of 19 months.

    "This summer with no fights in between," Wilder told the Associated Press. "I'm a warrior and I'm ready to go again, but we're going to change a lot of things in camp."



    Wilder also confirmed that he did not suffer a broken jaw or perforated ear drum as many had suspected, and blamed his three-stone outfit that he wore to the ring in recognition of Black History Month as the cause of his loss for sapping the energy from his legs.

    “He didn’t hurt me at all, but the simple fact is ... that my uniform was way too heavy for me,” Wilder told Yahoo Sports. “I didn’t have no legs from the beginning of the fight.

    “In the third round, my legs were just shot all the way through. But I’m a warrior and people know that I’m a warrior. It could easily be told that I didn’t have legs or anything. A lot of people were telling me, ‘It looked like something was wrong with you.’ Something was, but when you’re in the ring, you have to bluff a lot of things. I tried my best to do so. I knew I didn’t have the legs because of my uniform.

    “I was only able to put it on (for the first time) the night before, but I didn’t think it was going to be that heavy. It weighed 40, 40-some pounds with the helmet and all the batteries. I wanted my tribute to be great for Black History Month. I wanted it to be good and I guess I put that before anything.”

    He added to AP: "Going up the stairs (into the ring) I knew immediately it was a different change in my body condition," he said. "After the second round I had no legs, period."

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    Default Re: Who wins? Deontay Wilder vs Tyson Fury II 2020年2月22日

    Deontay Wilder has been medically suspended by the Nevada State Athletic Commission after his defeat by Tyson Fury.

    The American was under the cosh from the very first bell as Fury lived up to his promise to attack and put his opponent on the back foot – managing to drop the ‘Bronze Bomber’ twice.



    Wilder was pulled from the fight in the seventh round by trainer Mark Breland with blood gushing from his ear and lip and with a knockout seemingly inevitable.

    Such was the alarming flow of the stream of claret from the left ear of the ‘Bronze Bomber’, there was speculation he could have perforated his eardrum after a clubbing right hand dropped him in the third.

    It was later confirmed he just required seven stitches inside the ear to stem the flow of blood, although the NSAC have confirmed Wilder will still be unable to even spar in the state until April 8 and cannot fight until April 23.

    Given it is merely a six-week suspension; this has not prevented the former WBC heavyweight champion from invoking his rematch clause for a third fight with Fury.

    Whoever lost in Sin City had 30 days in which to trigger a clause which gave them a 40/60 split of the third bout purse, with Wilder confirming on Monday he intended to seek a trilogy fight.

    Initially, the rubber match was set for July 18 in Las Vegas, although Fury’s co-promoter Frank Warren has admitted this could now be pushed back until September or October and held at the new Las Vegas Raiders’ 72,000-seater stadium.

    Whenever the legacy-defining clash takes place, Wilder will be sure to head to the ring with a far lighter costume after blaming his 40lbs outfit for the defeat as it drained his legs.

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    Default Re: Who wins? Deontay Wilder vs Tyson Fury II 2020年2月22日

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    I am about to re-watch too and maybe change my mind, but might not. It all depends on what I see.

    As for Beanz. Well Spicoli, all I did was respond to his aggression with a reference to him being like Hugh Grant who went on to pull a very good looking Jewish woman in a film. I was mild.

    These ring intros are so camp. You would never see Prime Tyson doing any of this throne or Sauron business.

    Good for you setting the record straight, Miles. Gotta call a spade a spade, and that spade continues to reappear even after the deck of cards has been tossed in a drawer.

    As for Fury-Wilder, I will continue disagreeing with you and say that Wilder has nothing to bring to the table against Fury. Case closed.

    Although......... the thought of being on the same side of the argument with "whatshisface" is almost enough to make me reconsider.
    Grow up. You remind me of a character on the Steve Wright show who was forever threatening to throw the phone down. (:
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    Default Re: Who wins? Deontay Wilder vs Tyson Fury II 2020年2月22日

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    I am about to re-watch too and maybe change my mind, but might not. It all depends on what I see.

    As for Beanz. Well Spicoli, all I did was respond to his aggression with a reference to him being like Hugh Grant who went on to pull a very good looking Jewish woman in a film. I was mild.

    These ring intros are so camp. You would never see Prime Tyson doing any of this throne or Sauron business.

    Good for you setting the record straight, Miles. Gotta call a spade a spade, and that spade continues to reappear even after the deck of cards has been tossed in a drawer.

    As for Fury-Wilder, I will continue disagreeing with you and say that Wilder has nothing to bring to the table against Fury. Case closed.

    Although......... the thought of being on the same side of the argument with "whatshisface" is almost enough to make me reconsider.
    Right tossed in the drawer.

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    Default Re: Who wins? Deontay Wilder vs Tyson Fury II 2020年2月22日

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    I am about to re-watch too and maybe change my mind, but might not. It all depends on what I see.

    As for Beanz. Well Spicoli, all I did was respond to his aggression with a reference to him being like Hugh Grant who went on to pull a very good looking Jewish woman in a film. I was mild.

    These ring intros are so camp. You would never see Prime Tyson doing any of this throne or Sauron business.

    Good for you setting the record straight, Miles. Gotta call a spade a spade, and that spade continues to reappear even after the deck of cards has been tossed in a drawer.

    As for Fury-Wilder, I will continue disagreeing with you and say that Wilder has nothing to bring to the table against Fury. Case closed.

    Although......... the thought of being on the same side of the argument with "whatshisface" is almost enough to make me reconsider.
    Grow up. You remind me of a character on the Steve Wright show who was forever threatening to throw the phone down. (:

    Never seen the Steve Wright show, so the comparison is lost on me.

    Good to see it's still You Against the World, though.

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    Default Re: Who wins? Deontay Wilder vs Tyson Fury II 2020年2月22日

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Deontay Wilder has been medically suspended by the Nevada State Athletic Commission after his defeat by Tyson Fury.

    The American was under the cosh from the very first bell as Fury lived up to his promise to attack and put his opponent on the back foot – managing to drop the ‘Bronze Bomber’ twice.



    Wilder was pulled from the fight in the seventh round by trainer Mark Breland with blood gushing from his ear and lip and with a knockout seemingly inevitable.

    Such was the alarming flow of the stream of claret from the left ear of the ‘Bronze Bomber’, there was speculation he could have perforated his eardrum after a clubbing right hand dropped him in the third.

    It was later confirmed he just required seven stitches inside the ear to stem the flow of blood, although the NSAC have confirmed Wilder will still be unable to even spar in the state until April 8 and cannot fight until April 23.

    Given it is merely a six-week suspension; this has not prevented the former WBC heavyweight champion from invoking his rematch clause for a third fight with Fury.

    Whoever lost in Sin City had 30 days in which to trigger a clause which gave them a 40/60 split of the third bout purse, with Wilder confirming on Monday he intended to seek a trilogy fight.

    Initially, the rubber match was set for July 18 in Las Vegas, although Fury’s co-promoter Frank Warren has admitted this could now be pushed back until September or October and held at the new Las Vegas Raiders’ 72,000-seater stadium.

    Whenever the legacy-defining clash takes place, Wilder will be sure to head to the ring with a far lighter costume after blaming his 40lbs outfit for the defeat as it drained his legs.

    https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/6...trilogy-fight/
    Mark Breland should be given a medal and thanked. Wilder blaming a costume speaks to much more development he needs to address. Still though the saddest sight was how they kept a camera on him slumped on his chair with his kids and wife at his feet for what felt like an hour. He said nothing, just sat there crushed and for a guy who supposedly had a ruptured eardrum and concussed very dangerous to not get him medical right off. If he goes immediate rematch I fear he may go the way of a Briggs.

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    Default Re: Who wins? Deontay Wilder vs Tyson Fury II 2020年2月22日

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    I am about to re-watch too and maybe change my mind, but might not. It all depends on what I see.

    As for Beanz. Well Spicoli, all I did was respond to his aggression with a reference to him being like Hugh Grant who went on to pull a very good looking Jewish woman in a film. I was mild.

    These ring intros are so camp. You would never see Prime Tyson doing any of this throne or Sauron business.

    Good for you setting the record straight, Miles. Gotta call a spade a spade, and that spade continues to reappear even after the deck of cards has been tossed in a drawer.

    As for Fury-Wilder, I will continue disagreeing with you and say that Wilder has nothing to bring to the table against Fury. Case closed.

    Although......... the thought of being on the same side of the argument with "whatshisface" is almost enough to make me reconsider.
    Right tossed in the drawer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    I am about to re-watch too and maybe change my mind, but might not. It all depends on what I see.

    As for Beanz. Well Spicoli, all I did was respond to his aggression with a reference to him being like Hugh Grant who went on to pull a very good looking Jewish woman in a film. I was mild.

    These ring intros are so camp. You would never see Prime Tyson doing any of this throne or Sauron business.

    Good for you setting the record straight, Miles. Gotta call a spade a spade, and that spade continues to reappear even after the deck of cards has been tossed in a drawer.

    As for Fury-Wilder, I will continue disagreeing with you and say that Wilder has nothing to bring to the table against Fury. Case closed.

    Although......... the thought of being on the same side of the argument with "whatshisface" is almost enough to make me reconsider.
    Right tossed in the drawer.

    Someone hits you... you hit back. Special privileges be damned.
    Nothing and no one special here brother . @Beanz @Tito seriously take the revolving spats back off the boxing main page or take a break. Cheers

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    Default Re: Who wins? Deontay Wilder vs Tyson Fury II 2020年2月22日

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    I am about to re-watch too and maybe change my mind, but might not. It all depends on what I see.

    As for Beanz. Well Spicoli, all I did was respond to his aggression with a reference to him being like Hugh Grant who went on to pull a very good looking Jewish woman in a film. I was mild.

    These ring intros are so camp. You would never see Prime Tyson doing any of this throne or Sauron business.

    Good for you setting the record straight, Miles. Gotta call a spade a spade, and that spade continues to reappear even after the deck of cards has been tossed in a drawer.

    As for Fury-Wilder, I will continue disagreeing with you and say that Wilder has nothing to bring to the table against Fury. Case closed.

    Although......... the thought of being on the same side of the argument with "whatshisface" is almost enough to make me reconsider.
    Right tossed in the drawer.

    Someone hits you... you hit back. Special privileges be damned.
    Nothing and no one special here brother . @Beanz @Tito seriously take the revolving spats back off the boxing main page or take a break. Cheers

    I'll do my share of ignoring, as does everyone else. Hope he does the same. Cheers.

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    Default Re: Who wins? Deontay Wilder vs Tyson Fury II 2020年2月22日

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    I am about to re-watch too and maybe change my mind, but might not. It all depends on what I see.

    As for Beanz. Well Spicoli, all I did was respond to his aggression with a reference to him being like Hugh Grant who went on to pull a very good looking Jewish woman in a film. I was mild.

    These ring intros are so camp. You would never see Prime Tyson doing any of this throne or Sauron business.

    Good for you setting the record straight, Miles. Gotta call a spade a spade, and that spade continues to reappear even after the deck of cards has been tossed in a drawer.

    As for Fury-Wilder, I will continue disagreeing with you and say that Wilder has nothing to bring to the table against Fury. Case closed.

    Although......... the thought of being on the same side of the argument with "whatshisface" is almost enough to make me reconsider.
    I agree the odds are stacked against Wilder and the potential is that it is the final fight of his career. That's the kind of person I am though. If Wilder thinks he can do better then that is his call. He earns less, there is less expectation, but I respect that Don Quixote all or nothing mentality. It shows that at heart Wilder does want to be challenged and for me never say never. If he can start fair, perhaps land big, that's HW boxing. Perhaps not, but at least he tried. That is what the contract was for.

    He could go off and fight a few tune ups, but that he wants to go back out there. I just cannot see him fighting any worse.
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    Default Re: Who wins? Deontay Wilder vs Tyson Fury II 2020年2月22日

    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    I am about to re-watch too and maybe change my mind, but might not. It all depends on what I see.

    As for Beanz. Well Spicoli, all I did was respond to his aggression with a reference to him being like Hugh Grant who went on to pull a very good looking Jewish woman in a film. I was mild.

    These ring intros are so camp. You would never see Prime Tyson doing any of this throne or Sauron business.

    Good for you setting the record straight, Miles. Gotta call a spade a spade, and that spade continues to reappear even after the deck of cards has been tossed in a drawer.

    As for Fury-Wilder, I will continue disagreeing with you and say that Wilder has nothing to bring to the table against Fury. Case closed.

    Although......... the thought of being on the same side of the argument with "whatshisface" is almost enough to make me reconsider.
    I agree the odds are stacked against Wilder and the potential is that it is the final fight of his career. That's the kind of person I am though. If Wilder thinks he can do better then that is his call. He earns less, there is less expectation, but I respect that Don Quixote all or nothing mentality. It shows that at heart Wilder does want to be challenged and for me never say never. If he can start fair, perhaps land big, that's HW boxing. Perhaps not, but at least he tried. That is what the contract was for.

    He could go off and fight a few tune ups, but that he wants to go back out there. I just cannot see him fighting any worse.

    No issues with that. At least his heart cannot be questioned. His common sense maybe (the costume thing)....... but not his heart. Again, I'd be rooting for him as the clear underdog this time, but my boxing brain tells me he's the bully who has been bullied back. Fury is no longer scared of the big right hand which..... who knows..... may be in Wilder's favor...... but it allows Fury in his mind to be aggressive and force Wilder backward.

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