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    Interesting interview with a doctor and Minnesota state senator, especially considering that some sources are reporting that, during March, deaths from heart disease, stroke, pneumonia all fell far below their average numbers.
    https://www.valleynewslive.com/conte...Q-a8-V0kbE_eKA

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    I've been seeing a lot of people basically cheering for the virus so as to end Trump. It's quite sickening.
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    I agree that on the surface listening to the Dr/Senator it seems that he has some legitimate concerns about being asked to do something he thinks is ethically wrong, and could distort the facts. Then though toward the end of the interview when he expresses the worry that not cutting the grass and hedgerows etc might be dangerous for hay fever and Asthma sufferers, I started to question how seriously to take him. Call it instinct, a hunch, whatever. So...and this is just 5 minutes research I thought I would try and see if what he is claiming was true. Not really.


    Firstly their are numerous instances on his own social media feed of him quoting already disproved conspiracy theory sources, second and third hand. Then the death certificate he posts as evidence






    Now I don't know about the US but in the UK, 'contributing factors' are common place on Death Certificates and that is exactly what they are listed as here. The cause is listed as 'Acute respiratory illness' and Covid-19 listed as a probable contributing factor which seems entirely reasonable given the facts mentioned on the rest of the certificate.


    It is a dangerous line for him to pedal as a justification to get people back to work. People's lives are more important than the economy and that seems to be a hard pill for many to swallow.
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    Feds classifying all coronavirus patient deaths as ‘COVID-19’ deaths, regardless of cause
    https://nypost.com/2020/04/07/feds-c...vid-19-deaths/

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    saw these earlier, they wouldn't be making bullshit up would they? just stay in your homes & believe what the tv tells you
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    i'm just going to leave this here....

    N.Y.C. Death Toll Soars Past 10,000 in Revised Virus Count
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/14/n...imes&smtyp=cur
    Breaking News: New York City’s coronavirus death toll soared past 10,000 after officials added more than 3,700 people who had never tested positive for the virus but were presumed to have died of it.



    Seems legit to me
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    Quote Originally Posted by greynotsoold View Post
    Interesting interview with a doctor and Minnesota state senator, especially considering that some sources are reporting that, during March, deaths from heart disease, stroke, pneumonia all fell far below their average numbers.
    https://www.valleynewslive.com/conte...Q-a8-V0kbE_eKA
    Very frustrating to see. Minnesota questions number falsely inflated. Yet Florida claimed numbers falsely lowered. Is it possible there is bad stuff on both sides, yet again many Americans are fine looking only at the side they have been bred to loathe.

    Florida Stops Medical Examiners From Releasing Coronavirus Death Data: Report

    https://www.newsweek.com/florida-sto...report-1501090
    Quote Originally Posted by greynotsoold View Post

    The 2nd article- this stood out to me:
    Deaths attributed to COVID-19 are covered by the U.S. Government because of the massive stimulus package passed by Congress, but other causes of death are not.

    I see that plain as day, but I still feel frustrated in how this isn't a political game of lies- rather a liberal game of lies. In order for that to occur ALL politicians had to vote on this pork-killer-filler of a bill. So I went to FOX-
    in usual form Democrats- they KNOW for sure.
    1. Democratic House leaders are putting the finishing touches on a multitrillion-dollar coronavirus relief bill and are aiming for a vote on the massive legislation next week.
    2. A Democratic Aid told FOX (I guess we don't need to know their name) will pass a multi-trillion dollar package.

    Then when it comes to Republicans- the article turns vague.
    3. It's unclear if there will be bipartisan buy in.
    4. Nancy Pelosi is mentioned 4 times in the article to zero Republicans. I'm wondering why it is not even worth naming the minority leader? So we can see why the author of the article clamed they were (UNSURE) of Republicans voting along.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hou...lief-next-week

    The House voted 363-40 (140 Repubs voted yes 40 voted no) Wild is that those who voted no- are in the states experiencing the surge happening right now.
    President Trump late Friday night tweeting, “Look forward to signing the final Bill, ASAP!”
    So who is in the right? the 40 who said NO? Or Trump and the 140 who said yes?
    As that bill led to another and they are in fact able to get more for being sick, being on a respirator- a lot like the Health Care Act IMO- some doctors found it profitable to deny amoxicillin for bad throat & opt for tonsils-taken out. But no president can stop cronyism in the medical industry- individually that is.

    Where in this case-- These are politicians. Central Bank All In. Trump I don't know. He puts his name on the virus guidelines that killed the economy then goes on Twitter stating Liberate Michigan! What side is he on? Both?


    So I tried to find where FOX stands since March- hard to find- if You can would love to see as all I could find were articles that ripped Democrats. Reading FOX news on coronavirus it seems we don't have a president. At All. It's all Nancy.
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hou...ill-in-history
    What I learned from this FOX article on coronavirus:

    HOUSE DEMS UNVEIL CORONAVIRUS BILL ESTIMATED TO COST $3T, IN LARGEST STIMULUS PACKAGE YET
    Democrats alone and earned a veto threat from the White House <<---This is news? A threat? I searched for the update on the veto happening, couldn't find it.
    condemnation from the GOP as a "liberal wish list"
    Even Pelosi couldn't get all her members on board.
    The most liberal members of the party panned the legislation as not going big enough,

    And then, there are the poor defenseless Republicans...so FOX writer states:
    But tucked into the legislation are provisions that rankled the Republicans,
    "So much of what's in this bill simply has nothing at all to do with the current crisis," said Rep. Tom Cole, R-Okla. "It's more like a liberal Christmas ... wish list.
    gotta insert liberal...the narrative works!

    When I read those comments all I could think was Republicans had the House & Senate for 8 str8 years. They got a majority on the Supreme Court and then got Donnie in Oval Office...how did they fuck that up? Lose Congress -can only occur when they refused to accept they didn't do jack for 8 years...Repubs are supposed to be the leaders in the HOUSE Democrats offered nothing to win in 2018- it was a rebuke IMO. Just like 2006 midterm.
    Darn the fact the President threatened to veto and not go through. Oh well FEMA is an ancient word too, I remember they were supposed to be down for cause in national emergencies- but it seems only 2 groups to hold responsible- Democratic Congress & Mainstream Media.


    U.S. Coronavirus Cases Hit One-Day Record Sweeping Across 3 Largest States -Texas, California and Florida. I'd love to laugh and say in their face to those hateful folk turning this into a liberal-hoax. But corona doesn't kill just evil whites, it kills the good ones, black, brown, red, yellow. I wonder how those who doubted the numbers in the blue states...feel now that it is in the red. It seems Dr. Jenson on the top link- has not been too vocal lately either. I wonder has he done the same as Texas Governor Greg Abbott this week when he placed his state's reopening on "pause"

    Like Tyson said- everyone has a plan till they get hit in the face. Well Repubs had the answer which was hoax...until it hit them at home.
    No we all got a president, Republicans, Democrats who have mandated everything...but tests. Lets just all go back to work and it will go away ….like a miracle- The Words of our President.
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