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    People still supported him after numerous racist actions.
    People still supported him after numerous attacks on women.
    Now he has tested positive for PEDs.

    Is this the straw? And if so, why weren’t his previous disgusting things the straw? Garbage human being, always has been. Trash

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    I read this, and that his opponent put something on twitter basically saying "I don't care, let's fight anyways". Not familiar with the guy at all, but he was a silver medalist and is supposed to be a real talent, so obviously this would have been a huge opportunity for him to springboard his career, sucks for him more than anyone I'm sure.

    I don't think anyone is really going to support Kovalev through this, I mean he's pretty much at the end of the line anyways and it sounds like the fight will likely be off.

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    https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/...likuziev-doubt

    He's requesting Sample B to see if that comes up negative.

    Maybe he knows he's at the end of the road and has gotten desperate? As far racist actions? I'm not aware of them, have heard he used some choice words, but I don't use words as a barometer for racism. Maybe bias, prejudiced? I'm just old school; i only refer to the word racism/racist when it involves as the poster stated (actions) Would like to be brought up to speed if he has shown such actions.

    Unless its violence, his racist/biased tendencies won't stop me from viewing his fights. If that were my criteria, I wouldn't turn on a television.
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    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    I read this, and that his opponent put something on twitter basically saying "I don't care, let's fight anyways". Not familiar with the guy at all, but he was a silver medalist and is supposed to be a real talent, so obviously this would have been a huge opportunity for him to springboard his career, sucks for him more than anyone I'm sure.

    Boxing today = an opponent neither surprised or bothered by a rival’s drug test failure because a) PEDs are completely rampant and normalised throughout the sport so it’s not unexpected and b) He is also on PEDs and just didn’t get caught, so he is unworried by being at any disadvantage.


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    The fact that Kov's 6-0 foe doen't care, 4 times JMM never cared about allegation against Pac, Morales same deal, Berto, yet the one dude who does make it an issue Mayweather has his stock dropped even more -in my book.

    I hope this fight goes through so we can deem that PED can assist in some areas, but it cant win any championships since boxing has too many factors that other sports dont have.

    Ours is the one sport, that no matter how far down the scorecard one is- one point (punch) can end the night.
    Now matter how much energy PEDs give, we have no knowledge of CEDs Chin enhancement Drugs.


    Now matter how much power it can give yoy, there is no WPEDs Will Power Enhancement Drugs

    Boxing's intangibles in many ways dilutes the power of PEDS

    I was a follower of Kov for a few years -bar his Hopkins fight. I refused to watch it- felt Hop went to the well once to often. Seen highlights and nothing else.
    With that said, I am still curious to see what Kov has left.

    Personally, I think Canelo ruined him and this fight would tell me. The kid is 6-0 24 years old? Man talk about a once solid champion losing credibility, reduced to gatekeepers.

    Side note- anyone know if his relationship with J.D. Jackson ended ok, bad?
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    You could argue Andre Ward ruined him not Canelo.
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    Ward did ruin Kovalev.

    The first fight should still have been a draw at least!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    You could argue Andre Ward ruined him not Canelo.

    You could not only argue it.... you'd win the argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    You could argue Andre Ward ruined him not Canelo.

    You could not only argue it.... you'd win the argument.
    Ok, Ward ruined him, but Canelo solidified it?

    Nevertheless, this guy who wants to fight him is proof he's no longer considered an elite fighter. 6-0? And he doesn't care what Kov is taking, wow!
    All's lost! Everything's going to shit!

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    You are all wrong, it was his roommate who ruined him .... Alexei Vodkovich.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlimTrae View Post
    The fact that Kov's 6-0 foe doen't care, 4 times JMM never cared about allegation against Pac, Morales same deal, Berto, yet the one dude who does make it an issue Mayweather has his stock dropped even more -in my book.

    I hope this fight goes through so we can deem that PED can assist in some areas, but it cant win any championships since boxing has too many factors that other sports dont have.

    Ours is the one sport, that no matter how far down the scorecard one is- one point (punch) can end the night.
    Now matter how much energy PEDs give, we have no knowledge of CEDs Chin enhancement Drugs.


    Now matter how much power it can give yoy, there is no WPEDs Will Power Enhancement Drugs

    Boxing's intangibles in many ways dilutes the power of PEDS

    I was a follower of Kov for a few years -bar his Hopkins fight. I refused to watch it- felt Hop went to the well once to often. Seen highlights and nothing else.
    With that said, I am still curious to see what Kov has left.

    Personally, I think Canelo ruined him and this fight would tell me. The kid is 6-0 24 years old? Man talk about a once solid champion losing credibility, reduced to gatekeepers.

    Side note- anyone know if his relationship with J.D. Jackson ended ok, bad?
    JD Jackson’s opinion “Sergey is a borderline racist. He shows it in certain ways. I defended his ass more than a few times. Sergey didn’t want either me or Don Turner to work with him. He is good at putting the persona on, but when he’s alone, he’s a raw, nasty person. Even his own people talk about him like a dog behind his back, I kid you not. His so-called friends couldn’t stand him.”

    Saying PEDs don’t work in boxing is the same as saying you aren’t educated on PEDs. I’m glad for you that you aren’t, it’s ugly business.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SlimTrae View Post
    The fact that Kov's 6-0 foe doen't care, 4 times JMM never cared about allegation against Pac, Morales same deal, Berto, yet the one dude who does make it an issue Mayweather has his stock dropped even more -in my book.

    I hope this fight goes through so we can deem that PED can assist in some areas, but it cant win any championships since boxing has too many factors that other sports dont have.

    Ours is the one sport, that no matter how far down the scorecard one is- one point (punch) can end the night.
    Now matter how much energy PEDs give, we have no knowledge of CEDs Chin enhancement Drugs.


    Now matter how much power it can give yoy, there is no WPEDs Will Power Enhancement Drugs

    Boxing's intangibles in many ways dilutes the power of PEDS

    I was a follower of Kov for a few years -bar his Hopkins fight. I refused to watch it- felt Hop went to the well once to often. Seen highlights and nothing else.
    With that said, I am still curious to see what Kov has left.

    Personally, I think Canelo ruined him and this fight would tell me. The kid is 6-0 24 years old? Man talk about a once solid champion losing credibility, reduced to gatekeepers.

    Side note- anyone know if his relationship with J.D. Jackson ended ok, bad?
    JD Jackson’s opinion “Sergey is a borderline racist. He shows it in certain ways. I defended his ass more than a few times. Sergey didn’t want either me or Don Turner to work with him. He is good at putting the persona on, but when he’s alone, he’s a raw, nasty person. Even his own people talk about him like a dog behind his back, I kid you not. His so-called friends couldn’t stand him.”

    Saying PEDs don’t work in boxing is the same as saying you aren’t educated on PEDs. I’m glad for you that you aren’t, it’s ugly business.


    Appreciate the feedback.

    We disagree.
    I have no issues with what John said, if it is true, I can't use that as a reason to not watch him. Borderline anything means that person is at the edge and hasn't dove in. Was he reared that way? If so not his fault totally. I cant use that as a basis to say I won't watch him.
    If I do, IMO i give just due for whites to claim racism with (words) I refuse to do that. That dilutes the meaning, IMO.

    I remember on a flip-script tip! Larry Holmes said the same thing about Ritchie Giachetti- he's racist. OK, but did he give you what you needed in the corner Larry?

    Same of Kov...Did John D lose him immediately? Seems a true Aryan brother wouldn't have ever allowed him to touch him let alone train him.
    SO I now understand your take- you got the 411, I appreciate it, so I will keep it in mind.

    As far as PEDs, I think my statement was taken out of context.
    'I stated PEDS in regards to his weaknesses, I never said PEDS dont work.
    I acknowledged he GOT KTFO'd.
    With PEDS he can become strong as hell or gain crazy stamina endurance, heal quicker, then I asked: What difference does that make if Kov's chin can't hold up?
    Just jokingly stated there are no PEDs for the chin, do you have any 411 there is something for the chin?


    I take into account guys like Pacman accused of it by Floyd, yet it didnt stop Bradley from going the distance, didnt stop Horn, didnt stop JMM 3x. In that regards if he really used it- how did it help?


    Of course PEDS can work in boxing, it worked for Shane Mosely -for endurance, we saw his rate drop when he fought Floyd- via tested.
    I never said they didnt work, I stated some young dude 6-0 wants to fight him with PED or without...he himself is stating- it will take more than PEDS for a near 40 year fighter named Kov to beat him!
    All's lost! Everything's going to shit!

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