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    Default Ryan Garcia v Javier Fortuna - OFF

    Definite let down as this was one of the more anticipated matches and to me a bit of a deeper test than Ryans last out v Campbell. Ryan Garcia suddenly withdrew from a July 9th fight sighting mental and personal issues of some sort. He's been talking on bouts of anxiety and depression lately. Now the old grizzled cynic in some fans is to let fly with every accusation when one of the brightest rising stars in the game inexplicably falls out like this but as always more will come out no doubt. In fairness the kid at 20-21 had..and invited..the weight and bright lights of fame onto him with comparisons to a young Oscar and already having the money promotional disputes. It's said and believed boxing is majority mental and if your head isn't on straight the negative consequences can be immediate and lasting. Could very well be legit and as simple as that. Then again with a 135 division in complete flux steeped with Teo, Loma, Garcia, Haney and an up and down Gervonta Davis who knows..

    For his part Fortuna kept it classy wishing him the best in recovery and saying he looks forward to facing only a 100 percent Ryan Garcia. Fortuna has been waiting awhile now and hate it as much for a top opponent when stuff like this happens and all the build, training and focus goes to waste.

    https://www.ringtv.com/620707-ryan-g...-fortuna-bout/

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    Default Re: Ryan Garcia v Javier Fortuna - OFF

    Yes, Fortuna's response was pure class. He had to be massively disappointed in the cancellation, but even so responded as a professional should.

    Don't know what to think of Ryan. "Old grizzled cynic" I may be... but here we have a young phenom who once again was anointed as the next Great One long ago. Ever since he announced plans earlier this year to fight Pacquiao in some sort of exhibition... mine and I'm sure the eyebrows of others have been at least partly raised. At the time I stated I didn't think a young, still-rising 22-year old star had any business talking about exhibitions before first staking his claim in what are loaded divisions all around him. But that's how it goes in the era of "instant gratification."

    Now it appears he may have mental health issues. Let's hope he gets the necessary treatment, as this can be just as incapacitating as physical issues.

    This is why I always favor waiting a bit before putting golden crowns on young phenom's heads.

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    We and the hype machines do tend to pre anoint many of the young talents. Thing is a good portion of just what may be at the root. Boxing hands out trinkets to be defended on a bigger level before many are fully if even half developed..Berto, Broner, Wilder etc etc. Kid clamored for and made his 'pop' and social media fame the focus before he even blew up on a boxing stage. Literally everything today is viral and immediate media. Young dudes need some early stage fights out of the spotlight. Used to call them the 'making sausage' bouts. Where your flaws shine but you stamp out the easy comp. First time I saw him was some set of FB vids of some kid hitting a bag in his garage and everyone calling him 'even faster and better than Meldrick Taylor' . May be fair or not but wondering if coming up under Oscars wing was best for him. Last weekend Oscars interview on the triller circus card was the definition of a needed intervention and rehab program. Wouldn't be shocked to see a split but not likely.

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    i hope he gets the help he needs & is able to return to the ring if that's what he wants to do
    Apply shame. Apply fame. The crook and the flail.

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    Default Re: Ryan Garcia v Javier Fortuna - OFF

    Is it really mental health issues or is it the fact he wants Haney to loose within 2 years (during his absence) or move up a division?

    Used to call this kind of thing ducking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    Is it really mental health issues or is it the fact he wants Haney to loose within 2 years (during his absence) or move up a division?

    Used to call this kind of thing ducking.
    Just realized that the prior weekend happened to be the "return" of Garcia's promoter ol Oscar on one of those ppv triller circus shows. Leave it to Oscar to reserve the major holiday 4th of July weekend for himself. Coincidence no doubt.

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    Default Re: Ryan Garcia v Javier Fortuna - OFF

    I'll be the old geezer then. I remember back in the day when fighters had no media outlet to cry about their mental issues. How the frig' could these young cats have dealt with the mental issues, poverty of a young Roberto Duran, JCC, Johnny Tapia or an Aaron Pryor childhood?


    This is an excerpt on the life of Aaron Pryor that speaks directly to this era of fighters whom would rather cancel a fight due to mental health- as opposed to the old era, that used the ring to take their pain on.


    Like many of the finest fighters, Aaron Pryor survived a hellish childhood that taught him to focus on something, anything, to ignore the hardship, abuse, neglect and pain that comprised his daily existence.

    That type of childhood often leaves a void that even the ring can’t cure, but the ring can give you a space to forget it. It provides a focus for the rage that builds within you and is amplified with every moment of misery. In the ring, the rage is set loose, and rather than impotently attacking circumstance, you can conquer a space that is truly your own. If you’re good enough, that can earn you millions of dollars, the adulation of fans and no shortage of hangers-on who wish to use you to lift themselves from the failings of the world around them and their own failings as people.



    I hope the best for Garcia, but no sympathy from me anymore than I gave it to Fury. Shit happens. Fight on.
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